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> CL - Round of Last 16 - Tottenham - Milan (2nd leg), Date: 09/03/11 Time: 19:45 GMT 1st Leg: 1-0 Spurs

 
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Mar 10 2011, 12:30 AM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... Not what I meant... Meant to say that he is not starting off as a superstar like Pato... He need time to develop. Kind of like Abate. I am curious what you think of him now.. I saw a post someone compared him to Antonini... In Antonini I saw a player who over-compensated for his lack of tactical and defending skills with a lot of running and chaotic energy. But Abate looks composed and he definitely looks like he has learned a lot about defending and tactical presence.

Oh OK! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Abate has been a much better player the second half of this season... I did not expect anything from him really, he was just a guy that could run fast and only in a straight line but he has improved a lot, credit where it's due.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 10 2011, 12:30 AM) *
When I say nothing wrong, it means that he didn't make mistakes like Robinho did, for example. In terms of overall performance, he made wrong decisions, either the final pass or shot, something that all the players did tonight I feel. We were controlling the game, but when it came down to just pulling off that one pass to get the job done every player was lacking. Then they started going the selfish route, all of them not just Pato, at one point, Merkel was wide open at the edge of the box, and Zlatan kept rolling it under his feet instand of just passing it to Merkel who was in a great position at the time

I did not say Pato was the only one making mistakes. But I expect more from him... I certainly don't expect anything from Ibra or Roninho in the CL... they have proved they are useless in this competition... Pato has not proved he can make it but he has not been proven worthless either.
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 9 2011, 04:39 PM) *
his passing is great as well as his movement, I'm not taking anything away from him, but come on!!!


That is all I am saying. Looks like someone who can develop over time to become a great player. The fact that he is 18 should say it all. I see the glass half full and there is no coincidence he has made it to the squad. Even if he doesn't end up playing for Milan, all I have to say that I like his playing style. There some players that just appeal to you and some that don't. Abate and Merkel certainly appeal to me as young players.
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Mar 9 2011, 11:39 PM) *
I did not say Pato was the only one making mistakes. But I expect more from him... I certainly don't expect anything from Ibra or Roninho in the CL... they have proved they are useless in this competition... Pato has not proved he can make it but he has not been proven worthless either.

Ibra is just sucking everywhere at this point, next Sunday against Bari he should be rested, he's just not physically able to continue at this rate, we saw it against Napoli, Juve and again today. Robinho is a dud. While sure I expect a lot from Pato, but under the circumstances I think he did well aside from that miss from Merkel's pass. Again, he's not playing in his position, we don't have a good midfield, like zeddie said, we have a hole between midfield and attack our strikers or not supplied well due to this, so they suffer during the game, where they either have to drop deep or go out wide.

Had we had someone like Cassano playing who can work in tighter areas or a real true AM things could have been different, but again, what's done is done. Next year we'll do better I'm sure of this
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:45 PM
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Fantastic result for Spurs and a personal triumph for Harry Redknapp, who has just become the first English manager to lead his team into the UEFA Champions League Quarter Finals.

Special mention for Gallas and Sandro, who were outstanding for us today.
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE (THFC6061 @ Mar 9 2011, 04:45 PM) *
Fantastic result for Spurs and a personal triumph for Harry Redknapp, who has just become the first English manager to lead his team into the UEFA Champions League Quarter Finals.

Special mention for Gallas and Sandro, who were outstanding for us today.


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post Mar 9 2011, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 10 2011, 12:44 AM) *
Ibra is just sucking everywhere at this point, next Sunday against Bari he should be rested, he's just not physically able to continue at this rate, we saw it against Napoli, Juve and again today. Robinho is a dud. While sure I expect a lot from Pato, but under the circumstances I think he did well aside from that miss from Merkel's pass. Again, he's not playing in his position, we don't have a good midfield, like zeddie said, we have a hole between midfield and attack our strikers or not supplied well due to this, so they suffer during the game, where they either have to drop deep or go out wide.

Had we had someone like Cassano playing who can work in tighter areas or a real true AM things could have been different, but again, what's done is done. Next year we'll do better I'm sure of this

I'm not judging him on what he could not do and I'm not blaming this result on him. I simply think he could have done more when he had the ball and he made many mistakes.
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Mar 10 2011, 12:39 AM) *
I did not say Pato was the only one making mistakes. But I expect more from him... I certainly don't expect anything from Ibra or Roninho in the CL... they have proved they are useless in this competition... Pato has not proved he can make it but he has not been proven worthless either.


You expect more from Pato? Sorry, but he was the only one in our attack who was really trying tonight. He wanted to win this game. Ibrahimovic was absolutely null. I presume fatigue must have played its part, but he was as immobile as a rock. Really, really awful performance. Robinho... Well, what to say about this guy. He runs and works his @ss off, but his finishing is catastrophic. I still can't believe he didn't score that empty goal opportunity in the first half.

I really have nothing bad to say about the other players. We controlled the game, especially in the first half. Redknapp himself said it in the post-match interview I saw. What we lacked was the finishing touch. But hey, at least we leave the competition with our heads up!
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QUOTE (THFC6061 @ Mar 10 2011, 12:45 AM) *
Fantastic result for Spurs and a personal triumph for Harry Redknapp, who has just become the first English manager to lead his team into the UEFA Champions League Quarter Finals.

Special mention for Gallas and Sandro, who were outstanding for us today.

Well done!

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I don't know what you're saying but leave the guy alone... let him troll, he's not going to see this again in his life.
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Mar 10 2011, 01:33 AM) *
Yeah, the kid plays for Germany Under 19. He is someone to look out for. Looks like a player who will develop in time as opposed to someone like Pato.

Now I'm seeing why everyone wants to play Merkel... hm.

My ratings:

Abbiati: 1.5 OK, didn't have to do much.
Nesta: 2.5 apart from some clumsy passes, good.
Silva: 3 great.
Abate: 2 he's improved a lot recently. he was average, now he's good. we need world class.
Janku: 1.5 what can I say, he's old and finished.
Seedorf: 2 I can't see how he deserves all this praise. he played as a deep lying midfielder and made simple passes around (mostly backwards!) and beside that, won most of his challenges. if that's all we expect from Seedorf then he was amazing!
Flamini: 1.5 umm... not very good! I know they're supposed to act professionally, but he was booed every time he touched the ball. it's not easy to perform well under such circumstances especially when your team is going out.
KPB: 2 I felt he was still carrying that knock. I'm satisfied with him. only.. sometimes he can be a showoff and that's not really cool
Robinho: 1.5 we could still be in the competition if he'd not made a mess out of a single finish. can't forgive him for that.
Pato: 1.5 I thought he was decent in the 1st half but lost his concentration in the 2nd half and made the same old mistakes.
Ibra: 1 totally unwatchable, piss poor performance.

Antonini: 2
Merkel: 2
Strasser: NA

I'd like to mention once more that I'm totally disgusted by Crouch and his way of playing. and I'm amazed he didn't get booked for constantly falling over Nesta and Silva all game long.

And LOL @ everyone who made a monster out of Bale. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@ Kurt

You can be such a child but I'd like to offer truce! sorry for calling you blind, stupid and hater, among other things!
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Mar 9 2011, 04:49 PM) *
I'm not judging him on what he could not do and I'm not blaming this result on him. I simply think he could have done more when he had the ball and he made many mistakes.


Agreed. But Ibrahimovic has not exactly been the best role model for him. We also have to acknowledge that he and Ibra are not the best match either. I think Pato would enjoy playing with someone like Inzaghi or Sheva much more due to their characteristics to play off each others game. Ibra look like he wants to be alone up there or something...
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 10 2011, 12:50 AM) *
You expect more from Pato? Sorry, but he was the only one in our attack who was really trying tonight. He wanted to win this game. Ibrahimovic was absolutely null. I presume fatigue must have played its part, but he was as immobile as a rock. Really, really awful performance. Robinho... Well, what to say about this guy. He runs and works his @ss off, but his finishing is catastrophic. I still can't believe he didn't score that empty goal opportunity in the first half.

Ahh! I'm certainly not getting across here... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pato was trying I agree, it's not what I said. He just did not do the right things. It's not the same thing.

Robinho is the best representative of the breed of players (of any sport) I can't stand, those that don't hustle at all. He's weak, I dislike him!

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But hey, at least we leave the competition with our heads up!

at least! it makes the first leg's display somewhat feel less awful.
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 9 2011, 04:51 PM) *
Now I'm seeing why everyone wants to play Merkel... hm.


Are you being sarcastic? Read a couple posts before... I explained that whole quote better.
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post Mar 10 2011, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Mar 10 2011, 03:26 AM) *
Are you being sarcastic? Read a couple posts before... I explained that whole quote better.

Na valla! I was being serious!
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post Mar 10 2011, 12:12 AM
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It looks like Seedorf cried at the end of the game.
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post Mar 10 2011, 12:24 AM
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I actually thought Milan played very well. I think if we'd found the first, it could have been a massacre. But, it wasn't to be.

Congratulations to Spurs. Time to focus on the league...
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