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What a save!!

pippo comone win it

wattha 442?

Abate for Seedorf FFS!!!

Looks like Allegri is happy with the draw

Every ball Robinho has touched has been a disappointment.

really? abate for seedorf?

Allegri's subs just boggle the mind!! First taking Flamini off when he was doing well and we were in control of the midfield now this!!

I think our coach hasn't got a clue what he's doing. It's expected, draw was always gonna be the most likely result.

was flamini on yellow bcoz i dont see anyother reason for that sub

Yes, but so is half of the team right now. We lost control of the midfield when he made that change

Or maybe he isn't fit for 90 minutes yet. He just recovered from injury and only played about 20 minutes on Saturday.

FT 1-1.

Win your home games, draw your away games, and you're through. Job done so far.

draw could have gone either way

Allegri needs a good talking to. WTF!!!!!!!

I'm OK with the draw, but obviously would've preferred the win. Allegri really makes me scratch my head sometimes.

This was a very easy game, and all the guys had a great game. Allegri out before Christmas if he does not sort out his subs. Robinho was the single reason why this did not end 3-1.

damn, Real is 2 points ahead. Win your game is easier

We don't have Zilina, Spartak and Marseille in our group, we have Real and Ajax, plus a no push over French team. It will take more then that. If we don't take at least 3 points from the Real games and Ajax win theirs we could be looking at elimination.

55% - 45% possession....Ajax controlled this game

Those chances never would have come had it not been for his great off the ball runs. He's rusty in front of goal but he'll get that back. His overall play was good

You guys can slaughter me all you want, but I think Ronaldinho for Robinho or Seedorf around 70' and we win.

So, here are some comments:

1) Seedorf can play AM IMO but, Ronaldinho still is better in this position. Trouble is, Milan lack of a typicall attacking midfielder who could perform constantly on a higher level. Van der Vaart was a golden oppotunity.

2) Milan cannot play efficiently with Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf and Ronaldinho starting all at once. It's a slow and passive midfield that cannot bring us more good the bad. Even when Dinho is benched, the trouble remains. Milan's only dynamic midfielders are Flamini and Boateng; Allegri should at least try out Strasser.

3) Allegri's hasitation to make subs. I mentioned this before - he's doing it again and again. Abate for Seedorf??? WTF? And giving Pippo 5 minutes, while it was obvious that the last 30+ minutes Robinho was lost and exhausted.
Why doesn't he give a Pippo-Ibra duo more chances? And why does Ibra have to play every match from minute 1 to 90+?

I guess the line between running like a headless chicken and " great off the ball runs" is very small indeed.

Ad 3)

Pippo-Ibra last time seemed like a BAD BAD idea.
Though yeah, I'd have prefered Pippo-Ibra than Robinho in the last 30mins.

And Ibra plays 90mins cos he actually converts the chances, mostly

I could see Pippo + Ibra in a 4-4-1-1 kind of deal.....or 4-3-2-1. Something of the like. Probably not a 4-4-2 style. And Ibra plays 90' because he scores, unlike our other strikers.

Ronaldinho for Seedorf would have done the trick


1) Agreed
2) Agreed
3) Agreed

Imo our best lineup is this



Whenever Allegri decides to get his head out of his @ss and play this we'll see a better team, fast, creative, powerful, can control the game and more secure in defense. All the things we're lacking right now




Yep. It's bit different, Robinho was doing everything right, the spark was there, it wasn't running like a headless chicken because he knew what he was doing, that miss though was just atrocious!

Its very hard to adapt from a team like cagliari where you are used to defending against bigger teams or at least playing on even grounds to going to a team where every match you play has to be breaking down the great wall of china.



It also doesn't help that he's always trying to play it on the safe side. His subs are typical, winger for winger, defender for defender, midfielder for midfielder.


If he doensn't start taking risks and going for it, its going to cost him his job. The win is important, not who plays.

I like how you list reigning French Champions as if they're 'easy', then say Auxerre, who haven't won this season as 'no push over'. Unless we lose at home to Ajax, I can't see us going out now.

Yah but what are you going to do if ronaldinho refuses to play that role?

Han's 'perfect' line up IS perfect.
Only flaw, frickin R80 only plays 4-3-3

That's why I said depending on R80 is like slow cancer.

ajax 1-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge0ZNjq2rNU...layer_embedded#!

Milan 1-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y474L2CvuSU...player_embedded

That's Chelsea's group, it's easy compared to us because Marseille are the ONLY challenge, and while Auxerre are still not a top French team, they're tricky they held both us and Madrid so it's still no walkover game like the other pot 4 teams that were available (case in point Zilina)

the reason why Auxerre is a hard team to play against,
is because they only want to defend.

And Milan is famously known to fail to open up spaces in such situations.

Ronaldinho doesn't only play in the 4-3-3, it's the coach who's bottled him into playing that position, if he can move Seedorf who is a natural CM to the AM spot then I'm sure as hell Dinho can play it. It's where he played at PSG IIRC and sometimes for Brazil as well.

Also, he can move Abate o all people at a crucial position like RB, Bonera there as well, Seedorf at AM, etc etc, but an intelligent player like Ronaldinho can't play the AM position? Please

Allegri for some reason does not want to play him there, he said so himself that he would only switch to 4-3-3 if Seedorf is playing instead of Dinho, which is BS

Depending on anyone is a very bad thing.

Ronaldinho will not refuse to play that role He's not playing now for a reason, and he knows he's not playing well himself, that reason being the fact that he's constantly constricted to the left wing.

He played the 4-3-1-2 under Leo and played it before with Brazil as well, he can play that position and he won't refuse it, he knows he needs something to get back into form quick. And a change of position will do him good.

We're starting to depend on Ibra a lot to my liking. Every goal we've scored in the last 2 weeks has been through him, and most of them were down to him and him alone, not team moves. Very worrying

Another draw? Jesus. And judging by what I've read on here during the course of the season so far, we're missing a lot of easy shots as well.

Robinho missed a sitter then Stekelenburg made a miracle save in the last few minutes.

It wasn't like we were raining shots on their goal or anything like that, imo they looked a lot more dangerous when they were attacking then we did

Seedorf: 'We can't rely on Ibra'

Clarence Seedorf explains Milan’s latest tactical switch and warns against relying on Zlatan Ibrahimovic. “We don’t want to end up like Inter.”

Seedorf set up the goal for Ibra in the 1-1 draw away to Ajax this evening, a club where both of them used to play.

“At this moment we are still under construction. I am trying to keep everyone calm, as we need to focus and do everything in a solid fashion. As we saw again tonight, nobody will gift us anything.”

Ronaldinho was dropped to the bench for what seemed to be a 4-3-2-1 system, but Seedorf explains it was actually a 4-4-2.

“You can have a 4-4-2 in a diamond midfield, 4-3-3, whatever, the fact remains you have to take advantage of the spaces that open up in front of you.

“Milan have always played with this system over the last six years. In pre-season we had a few like this under Massimiliano Allegri, he knows he has a team that can play this system and tried to change.

“In general I didn’t like our style, as we play too many long balls and mustn’t make the mistake of thinking Ibra can resolve everything. Otherwise we’ll end up like Inter, especially in the Champions League.”

Real Madrid won 1-0 at Auxerre with a late goal, so they now lead the group on six points to Milan’s four.

“I think the draw is the right result. Maybe not in terms of scoring opportunities, but we didn’t control the tempo the way we usually do.

“There was some tiredness too, but all in all a draw away to Ajax in the CL is a good thing. We know that we must do better.”

It was a special moment for Seedorf, who was given a very warm welcome by the Amsterdam Arena.

“It was wonderful to come back here where it all started. The fans had a banner that read: ‘Clarence, you’re always a hero.’ It was a lovely moment and I’m so glad the club still remembers me with such affection.”


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Thumbs up for Thiago, Rino and Seedorf, they were immense tonight. Thumbs down for Robinho. He started pretty good but that childish error screwed up his performance. And Ibra keeps scoring!

Shame about the result, it was a match we could and should have won. The fact Real won makes it even worse. Still, it's a result I could live with. Ajax played better than I expected.

I dont kno what shpuld a player di more worst than robinho today to get changed and ronaldinho was there warming up all the secon half ani he didnt step on the pitch and the game withput him is very poor no real chances no corner kikks no asissts no creativity,
I think that alegri is noteven as good as leonardo he makes stupid changes that dont even efect tha game he puts prince out of his position I dont kno people but im disapointed in him i think he is lost he has no good reasoning any more.
amd I think that we would be much stronger if pirlo doesent play, I remember last year he didnt play aroond 11 matches and we won 10 e drew 1 and when he came back we started loosing and flamini played instead of him

Actually, this was the first game (aside Lecce) I agreed with Allegri's tactics. He put in the right line-up and made his subs at the right moment. Keeping Ronaldinho on the bench was a smart move. We played a disciplined game. Midfield was constantly moving, which is a novelty considering our latest performances. Ajax were tremendous up forward, and apart from that lapse by Nesta, our defense closed them down tight. The only negative aspect of tonight was the result, we should have won. Nevertheless, if we continue along this line we'll be on the right track.

agreed we look so much more as a unit though whilst we play 4-4-2, really startin to hate on the 4-3-3 formation

If anything, Robinho lost us the 3 points.

So ture han. It worries me even more then back years ago with Kaka.

Milan usually starts slow, but after a 8 or 9 matches we manage to get other scorers on the sheet. This year,...I don't see anyone else (except for Robinho) being even close to scoring. Look at the games: Lazio, Genoa, Ajax - did any player beside Robinho, Iba and Boateng (only once) had a chance to score?

Milan has big another issues. We simply cannot create enough. Our flanks suck in the offensive department, which itself is a big problem - teams easilly scout this weakness and they then have much more space to focus marking the "big players". When was the last time our LB or RB provided an assist? Scored?

And Zlatan! He was all our attacking hope.

Well, I mentioned him in the end. But yeah, thank god we've got him.