You're really angry at me for this? I was only joking pal...

Look, I don't see anything humorous about that sort of jokes.
That's the sort of humor Man U fans amuse themselves with, and if you think about, what is so funny about it?

Come on Locke .. U know dst, he likes to kid around. I'm sure he didn't mean to offend u in anyway

It's only a joke (it's funny because of Arsenal's constant preference of young players). It's not like we are only picking on Arsenal. Other teams ,like Inter or United, are ridiculed much more around here

It's not that I freak out every time someone jokes about Arsenal, but it's that particular one about Wenger's supposed morbidity.
Every time Arsenal play United at Old Trafford, you see these huge banners saying "Wenger is a fuc*ing paedophile", and that's way beyond "joking".
How would any of us react if people at work/school/jail(I can't be the only one)/neighbourhood had been constantly spreading a rumour like that?

For free? I'd be happy!

edit: Look, I don't find this offensive. I think it's a joke that's permissible. I wouldn't joke about one's skin color for example, that's not admissible in any way. But if it does annoy you, I won't repeat it.

Who in his right mind would leave Milan It's like taking 10 steps backwards .. Then what ?? How are u gonna climb back up again

One that wants to play some football??

Sure, let him sign up for Al-Qadisiya ... We are looking for a Conceição replacement

Don't fool yourself, Milan might be the classiest team in the world but no player with ambitions will stay and rot on the bench just because of Milan's status...

Simic did it for a while .. Anyways, you are giving too much significance to Gourcuff, if he has something to offer he'll stay. Otherwise, I think the club will be the one to offload him.

I'm not giving anything to Gourcuff. I'm just saying that he has a future (big or small it doesn't matter) and if he's not playing he'll leave... You said who would leave Milan, I said one that wants to play football and is not getting it at Milan, if that's so difficult to digest then OK just don't change the subject.

What's the subject chief


Who cares really ... he stays, he leaves ... not gonna change anything really.

That's too simplistic a way to put it Even you know you shouldn't say that.

well, simic did it for a long time but gourcuff won't leave milan on his own for sure, who would at his age...i don't belive he can do a step backward, even if he's not playing, training around maldini, cafu, serginho,....costacurta as coach, i mean he can just improve...as player as person

I think Gourcuff is old enough to make up his own mind. If he wants to leave , ask for it. If not , then wait for your moment.

At this very moment , having gourcuff or not ... What's the difference ?

It really doesnt change anything.

Most footballers choose football because they love it; not playing is like death for them...

I know, it is his statement of "who cares really" that I felt was not proper.

So true

Gourcuff is one of the few rising young stars in this aging milan side and thats not something we should just throw away. look at our midfield right now for the exception of pirlo they are the most inconsistant team out there, serdoff had a horrible game against inter which he is usally known for steppin up in big matches, gattuso hasnt been playin well lately and ambro plays stupid sometimes not to mention there not gettin any younger and it makes me wonder why they are not doin anything to solve this problem. our midfield has no pace we are the slowest team out there and milan finally invest in a player that they can use to thier advantage and he is rotting on the bench like so many players did at inter. so what if arsenal offer 20 million like milan dont already have money? milan is a richer club than arsenal just look at the money they made off selling sheva where did all that money go? no to buy pato emerson n ronaldo that for sure our president is holdin out on us and untill he goes deep in his pockets milans crisis will never end. we will end up waiting another 20 years befor we will win the scudetto. now i would much rather win the champions league myslef but i would still like to see milan win the scudetto again in the near future its been 4 years already n i think its 4 years too long. they need to give gourcuff more playin time i dont think a loan will suit him, he is at a good enough age and has enough skill to perform well at milan if he is loaned out to another team his talent is wasted becuase his improvement, moral, and efforts cannot be monitered as if he was playin for milan, he needs bond more with his teammates, players like pirlo, kaka and maldini will teach him how to be a champion and not a wasted talant.

Gourcuff, at this moment is totally overrated. That's cause he does not get much playing time, but also don't shows anything special in the few minutes he get's.

But that's right for me. He's very young now, and there is much time left for him. Arsenal loves teen-players, but honestly, after a while we all get bored of them and they fade. Unlike the true stars, that start rising up somewere between 25. So, Yoahann only needs patience,...

I think not even the great Zidane would show something special coming on in the last ten minutes with his team trailing and his teammates not interested enough...

excactly

You know, there are many types of players. There are some players, like Messi, who need only 10 minutes to transform from a complete anonimous to a star-player. Gourcuff isn't that type.

But I don't see a problem with him. He'll have to wait. That's very normal.

He has to choose, either to become a teen-star with high hopes and end up at Auxerre with 26 or to start slowly transforming into something real good with us. Of course, there is a third option, somthing like Pele - a wonder from the very first to the last moment. But really, I don't rate him that high,..

Messi can come on with 10 minutes to go on the clock and make a difference but that's not the way he made a name for himself... he evolved his game by playing full matches...

No, but that's how he converted 10 into 90 minutes,..