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kurtsimonw
GOAL VENEZUELA! cool.gif

1-0!
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 12:34 AM)
GOAL VENEZUELA!  cool.gif

1-0!
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Nice header. Venezuela playing at home... they must qualify. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
I don't know if it's just me, but I've found referee's pretty awful over the last two tournements (European U21s/Copa America). Venezuela have had a player sent off. rolleyes.gif

GOAL!!

ARISMENDI!!!

2-0!! cool.gif
Portman
2-0 Venezuela!!! Nice goal by Arismendi.

Celebrating like they have won the a World Cup! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

PS: Now I GET IT! The commentator just said Venezuela don't win a match in Copa America for 40 years... ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 1 2007, 12:04 AM)
2-0 Venezuela!!! Nice goal by Arismendi.

Celebrating like they have won the a World Cup!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

PS: Now I GET IT! The commentator just said Venezuela don't win a match in Copa America for 40 years...  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  laugh.gif
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Yep, that's why it's huge for 'em. biggrin.gif

I think it makes a tournement crap if the hosts go out early, so it's better that they do go through.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 01:07 AM)
I think it makes a tournement crap if the hosts go out early, so it's better that they do go through.
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FIFA, UEFA and all the federations think that too. We all know that. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 1 2007, 12:11 AM)
FIFA, UEFA and all the federations think that too. We all know that. biggrin.gif
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Then I should be on UEFAs board. king.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 01:15 AM)
Then I should be on UEFAs board.  king.gif
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So that Villa can participate in UEFA Cup. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif wink.gif

PS: Sorry... but I had to. wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 1 2007, 12:19 AM)
So that Villa can participate in UEFA Cup.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  wink.gif

PS: Sorry... but I had to. wink.gif
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I can make decisions.. Not miracles. rolleyes.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 1 2007, 01:20 AM)
dry.gif

I can make decisions.. Not miracles.  rolleyes.gif
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Ahah. You never know. Mr Lerner is going to give you Europe back.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 1 2007, 12:25 AM)
Ahah. You never know. Mr Lerner is going to give you Europe back.
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On a good season, maybe. The big 4 are not catchable for us, I don't think Spurs are either. That only leaves two places for Villa/Everton/West Ham/Blackburn/Newcastle, it'll be tough.

And.. Venezuela 2-0 Peru FT biggrin.gif
Portman
Today's menu:

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Brazil-Chile : 21h05 - GMT (UK)
Mexico-Equador : 23h20 - GMT (UK)
Portman
Brazil match just started... Robinho already owning some Chile defenders. rolleyes.gif
Tennie
Maicon hurt, looks like a dislocated shoulder. Dani Alves in. (27th min)
Darunia
1-0 Robinho PK
Portman
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 1 2007, 09:31 PM)
Maicon hurt, looks like a dislocated shoulder. Dani Alves in. (27th min)
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So pathetic Dunga. Maicon over Alves? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dani Alves and Robinho are the best brazillians without Ronaldo, Kaka' and 10R there. [And a motivated Adriano btw]

1-0 Robinho penalty.
Darunia
3-0 Brazil, Robinho hatrick
Portman
QUOTE (Darunia @ Jul 1 2007, 11:02 PM)
3-0 Brazil, Robinho hatrick
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On fire today. 2nd and 3rd were great goals.
misha
Robinho > the rest biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 1 2007, 10:50 PM)
Robinho > the rest  biggrin.gif
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I missed the Brazil game, I was at work. cry.gif
dst
3rd goal by Robinho was marvelous! I still don't like him though...
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 2 2007, 12:30 AM)
3rd goal by Robinho was marvelous! I still don't like him though...
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Today he played without the need of "track back" (to help the defence) like he does in Madrid [Capello always screaming at him laugh.gif ]. That's why he was on fire. He needs that.

1-0: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2fkpf_br...10-tvtuga_sport
2-0: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2flkp_br...20-tvtuga_sport
3-0: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2flos_br...chile-30-tvtuga
kurtsimonw
Mexico 2-0 Ecuador. Bravo.

Easy, but nice, header.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 2 2007, 01:01 AM)
Mexico 2-0 Ecuador. Bravo.

Easy, but nice, header.
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Mexico has a good keeper [Oscar Sanchez] and a nice defender [Marquez]. Nothing more.

In few years... Guardado and Giovani dos Santos will be there.
kurtsimonw
Mexico 2-1 Ecuador.

Nice strike from a way out, took a deflection to put it in.
Portman
OMG. Benfica's new striker owning USA. ohmy.gif

Paraguay 2-1 USA... 1 assist and scored the 2nd. Top player that guy.
dst
What a finish! ohmy.gif
arivanjj
Argentina 4 - 2 Colombia -- FT

Crespo 1 (pen)
Riquelme 2
Diego Milito 1
Warchant
once again, the us has failed to take a large competition seriously.

i'm still not 100% sure why we brought our C team to the tournament, but i guess our young players will feel what it's like to get humiliated on one of the world's largest stages. hopefully it will make them try harder NOT to suck in the future.

i swear...the US players are better than this...but the rest of the world will never believe us as long as we keep putting these kind of pitiful performances together.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jul 2 2007, 08:06 PM)
once again, the us has failed to take a large competition seriously.

i'm still not 100% sure why we brought our C team to the tournament, but i guess our young players will feel what it's like to get humiliated on one of the world's largest stages. hopefully it will make them try harder NOT to suck in the future.

i swear...the US players are better than this...but the rest of the world will never believe us as long as we keep putting these kind of pitiful performances together.
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You think thats bad, try losing 3-0 to chile in your own country cry.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 3 2007, 01:59 AM)
You think thats bad, try losing 3-0 to chile in your own country  cry.gif
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ya i dunno we need a real coach, and theres too much politics involved with selecting players (from what i hear lots related to people involved with CSA and coaching, etc...) a buddy of mine would probably playing in this tournement if it wasnt for amajor injury he suffered a couple years ago... sad.gif
Portman
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jul 3 2007, 02:47 AM)
Argentina 4 - 2 Colombia -- FT

Crespo 1 (pen)
Riquelme 2
Diego Milito 1
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It was never a penalty. It was a fk.

Bad bad bad refs in this Copa America.
kurtsimonw
I watched the games when I got up this morning, fully enjoyed both of them, but I agree with Porty, the refereeing at this competition has been nothing less than awful.

It's been a great tournement with lots of goals, but not one of the teams can defend. rolleyes.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 10:44 AM)
It's been a great tournement with lots of goals, but not one of the teams can defend.  rolleyes.gif
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C'mon. It's South America. biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 12:14 PM)
It was never a penalty. It was a fk.

Bad bad bad refs in this Copa America.
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Did you see how that ref last was running towards the 'crime scene' signaling his decision!?? laugh.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 3 2007, 11:20 AM)
Did you see how that ref last was running towards the 'crime scene' signaling his decision!?? laugh.gif
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That ref is stupid. It's not the first time he performs like a ****. He's like the Merk of South America.
dst
Merk is not a bad ref. He's prejudiced though... that's what makes him real bad!
Warchant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 3 2007, 01:59 AM)
You think thats bad, try losing 3-0 to chile in your own country  cry.gif
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but you're not told every year

"this is the year you're going to see how great US soccer has become"

i'm still waiting sad.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jul 3 2007, 01:50 PM)
but you're not told every year

"this is the year you're going to see how great US soccer has become"

i'm still waiting  sad.gif
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I think your caoch has no idea on how to motivate and help players progress.

When you're in the same group as Argentina, and they announce a full strength squad, you do NOT take 20 young players. You've let 7 goals in, in 2 games, and the confidence of these players is going to be at zero when they get back home.

Considering this competition is the only one your players are going to get tough games and be able to further themself as player, you'd have thought the first XI would have been taken. rolleyes.gif
Warchant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 08:54 AM)
I think your caoch has no idea on how to motivate and help players progress.

When you're in the same group as Argentina, and they announce a full strength squad, you do NOT take 20 young players. You've let 7 goals in, in 2 games, and the confidence of these players is going to be at zero when they get back home.

Considering this competition is the only one your players are going to get tough games and be able to further themself as player, you'd have thought the first XI would have been taken.  rolleyes.gif
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his "reasoning" was that most of our veterans have experienced these atmospheres already. we've played a lot of friendlies in south america and our veterans already know what it's like.

our coach's reasoning for taking this young squad was because this was the future of our team and most of these guys are experiencing their first national team games.

our coach used our veterans for the CONCACAF tournament because winning that gets us an automatic bid for the Confederations Cup. Which will also be a great chance for our players to get some good playing experience.

whether or not i agree with him 100% is a different story. i wanted our veterans to go so we could actually compete with these guys. but if our young players can get experience from this, then maybe, i guess, it's worth it.
dst
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jul 3 2007, 07:12 PM)
his "reasoning" was that most of our veterans have experienced these atmospheres already. we've played a lot of friendlies in south america and our veterans already know what it's like.
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But the CA is a respectable tournament, isn't it!!!?? It feels, to me, that this is like fielding the U21s in a Euro championship just because the senior squad have already participated in one! unsure.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 3 2007, 04:17 PM)
But the CA is a respectable tournament, isn't it!!!?? It feels, to me, that this is like fielding the U21s in a Euro championship just because the senior squad have already participated in one! unsure.gif
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That's what I thought.

If the coach's reasoning for priorotising the Gold Cup over the Copa America is to get a bid at the Confederations Cup, he needs to be replaced, immediately.

There's no way the best players of the US NT are going to get any player by only competing in the Gold Cup and friendlies, while they yet their youngsters get slaughtered in the Copa.
Tennie
Lalala. The Merda players at the Copa are dropping like flies. First Maicon is ruled out with the shoulder problem and now Crespo is out with some sort of leg injury. Maybe Carlito Tevez will actually get a start now.

Peru-Bolivia underway, nothing of note thus far (17th min).

EDIT: Goal Bolivia, from Jaime Moreno in the 24th.

EDIT: Halftime: Bolivia 2 - Peru 1 (Pizarro with the Peru goal, Campos with the second Bolivia goal right at the stroke of halftime).
IoRDanCHo
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 3 2007, 10:51 PM)
Lalala. The Merda players at the Copa are dropping like flies. First Maicon is ruled out with the shoulder problem and now Crespo is out with some sort of leg injury. Maybe Carlito Tevez will actually get a start now.

Peru-Bolivia underway, nothing of note thus far (17th min).

EDIT: Goal Bolivia, from Jaime Moreno in the 24th.

EDIT: Halftime: Bolivia 2 - Peru 1 (Pizarro with the Peru goal, Campos with the second Bolivia goal right at the stroke of halftime).
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That's what i am hoping! To see Tevez play, so that our retarded idiots Galliani and Braida can see him, now after Crespo is injured!!!
Warchant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 11:22 AM)
That's what I thought.

If the coach's reasoning for priorotising the Gold Cup over the Copa America is to get a bid at the Confederations Cup, he needs to be replaced, immediately.

There's no way the best players of the US NT are going to get any player by only competing in the Gold Cup and friendlies, while they yet their youngsters get slaughtered in the Copa.
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most of the veterans actually played in the copa when they first started out

i don't think he needs to be replaced, i think all of it was just really bad timing...it also doesn't help that the MLS is going on at the same time.
IoRDanCHo


Tevez: "Now don't scream dear, we will go to Milano, to buy you some new clothes, actually i also have to sign a contract with Milan there" devil.gif king.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (IoRDanCHo @ Jul 4 2007, 01:25 AM)


Tevez: "Now don't scream dear, we will go to Milano, to buy you some new clothes, actually i also have to sign a contract with Milan there" devil.gif  king.gif
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That pictures so bad!

Do Milan actually sign players like that?! We seem to go for glamour more than skill nowadays.
redbabies
Copa America has the stupidest rules in the whole football world rolleyes.gif

Brazil had Chile in group, and now will play against them in Quarter Final, than Venezuela vs. Uruguay were in the same group too.

So now, Mexico 1st in their group could face Argentina, and Brazil 2nd faces Chile 3rd.


P.S. There's a reason why top players refuse to play in this tournament laugh.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (redbabies @ Jul 5 2007, 09:14 AM)
Copa America has the stupidest rules in the whole football world rolleyes.gif

Brazil had Chile in group, and now will play against them in Quarter Final, than Venezuela vs. Uruguay were in the same group too.

So now, Mexico 1st in their group could face Argentina, and Brazil 2nd faces Chile 3rd.
P.S. There's a reason why top players refuse to play in this tournament  laugh.gif
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I think it's very difficult for them to work out a tournement with there being such a small amount of teams. In Europe we have about 60 or something, so it's much easier for us. I think South America has about 11 countries? Some of whom are very, very small and may not even have a team.
Warchant
welcome home US team...turn on the tv, watch the U-20 World Cup, and cry

at least Eddie Johnson is back playing for the Wizards...we've missed him sad.gif
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