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Darunia
creating 0 chances, need a change.
HasanHasanly
Caraciolo out Ma*$%@)% in biggrin.gif

Tedesco in Bresiano out
han2503
QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 28 2007, 03:27 PM)
creating 0 chances, need a change.
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That will come 10 minutes for time rolleyes.gif

We really need to do something, I think the chances we waisted will cost us the match in the end, especially that penalty
HasanHasanly
RONIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEe
Portman
Ronaldo in, Gilardino out.

Seedorf out, Gourcuff in.
misha
R99 on Gila off
HasanHasanly
ZEE out THE FRENCHIE!!!

LETS ROLL devil.gif
Darunia
R9 on for Gila
han2503
Ronaldo in
Gila out

Seedorf out
Yoan in

I think a DMF should have come off instead of Seedorf. I thought Clarence was good in this match
Darunia
I miss playing with 2 strikers.
han2503
We need to get the ball up quickly
Portman
QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 28 2007, 03:31 PM)
I miss playing with 2 strikers.
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I believe Berlusconi too. rolleyes.gif
Portman
R99 is not that kind of foward that can play alone upfront. Carletto...

Our team is playing like we're winning 3-0.
han2503
I think we're going to settle for the 0-0 now
HasanHasanly
that was crazy
Portman
OMG. R99 AT THE BAR! LOL! Lucky goal it would be. laugh.gif
han2503
RONALDO HIT THE BAR!!!
Darunia
That was really weird
Darunia
Palermo defender kcked ball off R9's head, hit bar.
han2503
3 times we hit the bar against Palermo rolleyes.gif
han2503
Oli looks like he's about to come on
han2503
Yoann almost from a free-kick now
HasanHasanly
Cmon people, one goal cry.gif
han2503
This will end in a 0-0. I knew it, I should have put money on it
Portman
For god sake... Gourcuff trying twice the FK, and not even with the 2nd chance he did it well.

This is one of those matches we deserve to lose. I mean, we missed so many chances on the first half... so many that we could have gone to HT winning by 3 and 4 goals. Then, we have this prima donna spirit on our team and a coach who's happy with a draw away, no matter the team you play.

rolleyes.gif
armiss
how about other results ?
HasanHasanly
The ref is a moron, he just ruined a perfect counter attack
han2503
QUOTE (armisse @ Feb 28 2007, 03:46 PM)
how about other results ?
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We've dropped back to the 6th place
Portman
3' added.
armiss
gila is really waste of time , he can but he dont want
Portman
Almost scoring Di Michele.

OK. 2 points lost against a bad team in a bad form.
armiss
about a full season we are waiting for him to see that he corrupt team works
Portman
Why Carlo can't understand that we should play every single match with 2 fowards (no, Kaka' is NOT a foward)?

Feckin' p**** X-mas tree tactic.
Portman
AMAZING. Lazio just scored on the 90th min, 2-1! We're 3 points away from the 4th place.

Thank you Carlo.
armiss
bad :


Empoli 3-1 Messina
Lazio 3-1 Catania
Palermo 0-0 Milan


good :

Chievo 2-2 Roma
KillerMax
QUOTE (armisse @ Feb 28 2007, 10:04 AM)
Chievo 2-2 Roma
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Like we are ever gonna catch Roma...
KillerMax
Live table Portugal?
jefri91
Wtf is happening to this team. I feel like this team's greatness has finished. Without Sheva, stam, nesta and the other players Milan will never be as good as it was sad.gif
X-Offender
This is sad, three points from the 4th place now. Thinking of all those chances in the first half makes me wanna explode. The team completely disappeared in the second half, especially Kakà. Bad thing is Lazio keeps winning, we should really think straight cause if things continue like this we may not reach the 4th place after all.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 28 2007, 04:05 PM)
Me too  smile.gif
As in, he is having a mediocre game, I love Rino but he isn't playing so well today, you have to admit this
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He was having a good match, far from mediocre.

QUOTE (Portugal @ Feb 28 2007, 04:44 PM)
rolleyes.gif
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LOL, you love that smiley don't you? biggrin.gif
Portman
Requested by many families:
han2503
This is really bad, we should have killed off the game in the first half, end of story. mad.gif

@Porto, the xmas tree wasn't the problem, the finishing was, a missed penalty, Kaka having practically 3 chances begging him to put them away and he missed them all, credit to the Palermo keeper for having such an amazing game but we really should have done better.

Let's hope the missed penalty is a turnaround for Kaka, like the one for Gila when he missed against Torino
jefri91
in about 2 or 3 matches we are going to play Inter and are going to get killed
X-Offender
I've never blamed Carlo for our results before, but this time he really f@cked up. Ronaldo for Gila? Dammit, did he watch Milan-Samp or not? Ronnie can't play as a lone forward, he's too slow. He should have dropped Ambro instead of Gila, and played with 2 strikers. Seedorf was also having a very good match, he didn't deserve to be benched. Man, what a drag...
Portman
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 28 2007, 04:19 PM)
This is really bad, we should have killed off the game in the first half, edng of story.  mad.gif

@Porto, the xmas tree wasn't the problem, the finishing was, a missed penalty, Kaka having practically 3 chances begging him to put them away and he missed them all, credit to the Palermo keeper for having such an amazing game but we really should have done better.

Let's hope the missed penalty is a turnaround for Kaka, like the one for Gila when he missed against Torino
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We've to say the things like they're - the reality. We use the x-mas because we're a feckin' lazy prima-donna and old team. So old that Carletto changed the 4-4-2 diamond that we used in 95% of the matches on the past years to adapt a new tactic to the "oldies" (more behind, less to run back, more safe, etc).

Carletto must go in the end of the season. Tired of this _nt tactics. Milan must play like every big team should play - with 2 fowards. And this has nothing to do with Berlusconi.
Portman
QUOTE (jefri91 @ Feb 28 2007, 04:22 PM)
in about 2 or 3 matches we are going to play Inter and are going to get killed
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I'm waiting for another humiliation. rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2007, 04:23 PM)
I've never blamed Carlo for our results before, but this time he really f@cked up. Ronaldo for Gila? Dammit, did he watch Milan-Samp or not? Ronnie can't play as a lone forward, he's too slow. He should have dropped Ambro instead of Gila, and played with 2 strikers. Seedorf was also having a very good match, he didn't deserve to be benched. Man, what a drag...
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Yep, 1 of Ambro or Rino had to come off for Oli. And expecting Oli and R9 to make an impact in the last 15 minutes is insane. They should have come on at the beginning of the first half and we should have switch to a 4-3-1-2.

Seedorf was having one of his best games in months and he takes him off??!!!!

QUOTE (Portugal @ Feb 28 2007, 04:26 PM)
We've to say the things like they're - the reality. We use the x-mas because we're a feckin' lazy prima-donna and old team. So old that Carletto changed the 4-4-2 diamond that we used in 95% of the matches on the past years to adapt a new tactic to the "oldies" (more behind, less to run back, more safe, etc).

Carletto must go in the end of the season. Tired of this _nt tactics. Milan must play like every big team should play - with 2 fowards. And this has nothing to do with Berlusconi.
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Porto as I said the xmas tree wasn’t the problem in THIS match, we needed that extra cover or our defence would have gotten ripped apart. But when we where heading for the end of the match and we really needed to win we should have definitely switched. It seems like lately we would much rather draw then try to win. And I hate that.

But not all big teams play with 2 strikers, Chelsea for the previous 2 rampant seasons only played with one striker, and Barca also only play with one striker.

What really makes me mad though is the fact that we should have won the game by half time, all those missed chances remind me of the early part of our season and we can't fall back into that rethm once again. We could have taken forurth spot tonight or at least stayed just 1 point away from it now we have to track back after falling back 3 points.

At this rate we probably won't make it
weeeow
just came home from school. Good match then but same comments from same people at the end 'We played cr@p' tongue.gif . I am a bit piccef off as Kaka goes the same way with his penalties every time - I saw his first against Chievo last year AND guess what - HE WENT LEFT laugh.gif !

Hopefully as someone said Kaka will have the same turnaround that Gila had after he missed his penalty devil.gif devilsmiley.gif

FORZA MILAN!!!!! devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif
han2503
Palermo 0 - 0 Milan

Stadio Barbera

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Alberto Fontana saved Kaka's debatable penalty to earn Palermo a point and halt injury-hit Milan's march on the Champions League places.

The Rossoneri had a real crisis on their hands, as eight defenders were out of action for one reason or another. Marek Jankulovski, Alessandro Nesta, Marcos Cafu, Serginho, Paolo Maldini, Kahka Kaladze, Alessandro Costacurta and the suspended Massimo Oddo left Carlo Ancelotti with precious few alternatives.

Palermo weren't exactly jumping for joy either, as Andrea Barzagli and Alberto Fontana were injured and Mattia Cassani sat out a ban, though David Di Michele and Eugenio Corini returned from suspension. The Rosanero were without a win in three.

Alberto Gilardino's shot was charged down and soon after the ex-Parma man ran on to an Andrea Pirlo through ball, but was brought down by Alberto Fontana, although contact appeared to be minimal. The former Inter goalkeeper was also booked, but he made up for it moments later with a save on Kaka's penalty.

There was a blow for the Rosanero, who lost Corini to injury, but Milan kept pushing and Fontana parried Kaka's long-range strike. The Brazilian then nutmegged World Cup winner Andrea Barzagli and drilled wide of the near post.

Roberto Guana performed a decisive tackle on Kaka as he ran into the area with only the goalkeeper to beat, then Mark Bresciano struck the side-netting.

Kaka was inspired and again burst into the area to force Fontana into a brave stop and the 'keeper also parried Clarence Seedorf's solo effort. Aimo Diana drilled a good Palermo chance wide of the near post from eight yards.

Palermo really should have taken the lead straight after the restart, as Diana's wayward shot fell straight into the path of David Di Michele, but he incredibly scuffed the ball with only Dida to beat.

Carlo Ancelotti threw on Ronaldo and Yoann Gourcuff, roundly booed by the Palermo fans. Within minutes Il Fenomeno nearly scored a bizarre goal, as Giuseppe Biava's clearance from his effort thumped the Brazilian's forehead and ricochete on to the crossbar!

Gourcuff fired just over with a free kick, Fabio Simplicio's curler was deflected off target and in stoppages Di Michele wasted a very promising opportunity for Palermo.


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Palermo: Fontana; Zaccardo, Barzagli, Biava, Pisano; Diana, Corini (Simplicio 9), Guana; Bresciano (Tedesco 70), Di Michele; Caracciolo (Matusiak 69)

Milan: Dida; Brocchi, Simic, Bonera, Favalli; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf (Gourcuff 71); Kakà; Gilardino (Ronaldo 71)

Ref: Trefoloni

Missed penalty: Kaka 9 (M)
KillerMax
This was an important game and although I really think Kaka f@cked up today, I think Ancelotti didn't have the balls to go for a win... I mean I'd rather lose trying than draw like wussies... We missed Oddo and Janku very much and I have to say again, Kaka was very bad today... A couple nice moves in the first half and that was it... He pretty much cost us the 2 points... But the whole team played like crap in the second half, but that was to be expected after playing so many games in such short period.

We'll come back stronger, that I'm sure of.
Jack Sparrow
Darn...

This was not quite the result i expected, in fact rather disappointing. I know about the match only from ur posts so...here's my 2 cents.

Obviously the X-Mas tree wasn't the problem here.

We went into a match with what looks to me like the makeshiftiest of makeshift defenses. So I don't blame the extra defensive mids.

I can't blame Carlo one bit, in fact. The 'best player' in the world and on his team, scuffs up chances, and MISSED a penalty.

The second half as I see it, Palermo played a lot better, and were coming more in front. In such a phase, I don't see how it makes sense to take off a defensive mid to play Yoann. That's the kind of thing I'd expect a cr@p Dutch manager to do.( I don't necessarily mean Rijkaard, but this comment is directed at Porty). We saw Barca try something similar against Liverpool didn't we.

I think Carlo knew exactly, what the limitations of our defence was, more than we realize. We have the luxury to sit back and criticise. But if we had taken Rino/Ambro off and played in Yoann and those b!tches had scored, we would also have had the luxury of sitting back and cussing Carlo for being so naive. Unfortunately, we are in a position on the table where we can't throw caution to the wind. You think a draw is bad, I think a defeat would have been devastating.

Everyone likes a win sure, and I understand the sentiments here, but there are other things to consider. Like our very cr@p defence, without Oddo, requiring all the help we need.

As for Ronaldo playing as a sole striker, I don't think at any point it was supposed to be a 4-5-1. I think it was supposed to be a 4-4-1-1.

I don't really know about R99's limitations, but I do think he has played this formation in Real, with Raul behind him in the hole. And I think Raul<<<<Kaka. As much as I think he's(Raul) a decent player.

In retrospect, I'd say the reason for the draw was more like not taking the opportunities we got, rather than anything else. As for tactics, from what I've read I can't fault much. But keep in mind I haven't seen the match.

It's just my philosophy that if a player who excels at a function, doesn't perform it, it's not the coach's fault.

As for Oli. I already mentioned it, and I'm convinced,it would be stupid to play Oli as sole striker. He has the strengths needed for that role, but also too many weaknesses. Let me see him hold the ball, one time fluently under pressure and we'll see.

Too bad there was no Pippo. Woulda been somewhere around to distract Fontana when Kaka shot.

As for Gila...I'll give you one more season, biaatch, you're starting to bug me. Don't EVER dive. It's bad karma. Pippo is the devil himself, he exists outside the realm of karma.

P.S: I forgot to mention, the toll all the matches might have taken. Thanks fatboy tongue.gif
P.P.S: What about Andy??? Don't tell me he's started to suck again!
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