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dst
Talk about new revelations you think might come big in the future!
dst
I opened this thread to talk about a new teen sensation, 16 year old Panathinaikos player, called Sotiris Ninis!! His parents moved to Hellas from Albania sortly after Ninis was born and he grew up in the Hellenic, capital, Athens.

He is an old-fashioned right winger with amazing crossing abilities, vision and technique. He was voted as the best player of the week he made his debut in and his first goal came on his 4th game.

Here are some links:

uefa.com article

1st goal against Panionios FC Notice how he uses both his legs to control the ball and he shots with his weak left foot!

Amazing Cross He does that a lot but this is the only one I found cause the ball ended on the net. It's an inch-perfect cross and on the move. I don't why but nowadays players do not practice their crossed on the move and you rarely see one so precise. Can't think of anyone else but Beckham and Nelson doing that, not even Alves.

2nd goal against AEK Just experience the technique on that shot!

If he goes on like that (and believe me this is just the youtube version of what he does on the field) he's not going to stay here for long! He bring a mediocre team to another level...

Tonight, Panathinaikos plays Lens in Athens for the return leg of UEFA Cup round of 32... if you can you might as well want to watch this game, it's going to be very interesting also considering the fact that the first leg ended 3-1 for the French team but it was just not how it should be. Panathinaikos can do it!
milanistar
There are two great youngsters in Barcelona Bojan Krkic and Giovani Dos Santos, I think they will be really great stars in the nearest future especially Bojan.

The think that makes sad is that we'll probably never have some players like those two in Milan sad.gif
Jack Sparrow
Two words...Willie Aubameyang...

Speaking of which, what's the general opinion on Quaresma. I really like this guy. So he's not like a young prodigy, but he's a good player. Especially in that he can drift outside left and cut in. The sort of role I'd want Oli to play, but more and more I realize, he can't do that sorta thing too well.

I think Quaresma would be devastating if paired with Kaka and Gila, not to mention RR99.
dst
Did you see Quaresma's shot last night!?? He hit the ball with the outer part of the shoe... ohmy.gif He does that a lot! Overall, a little less splashy and some more action would work though!
Jack Sparrow
Did I see it? I made like the big bad wolf in Droopy, with the whole 'Yaaoooooogha!!!" thing going.

How did he do that? There was nothing Cech could have done...he was rooted!
milanistar
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 22 2007, 07:04 PM)
Two words...Willie Aubameyang...

Speaking of which, what's the general opinion on Quaresma. I really like this guy. So he's not like a young prodigy, but he's a good player. Especially in that he can drift outside left and cut in. The sort of role I'd want Oli to play, but more and more I realize, he can't do that sorta thing too well.

I think Quaresma would be devastating if paired with Kaka and Gila, not to mention RR99.
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eah he's a great player, he has the same playing tyle of C.R minus the dives laugh.gif

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2007, 08:49 PM)
Did you see Quaresma's shot last night!?? He hit the ball with the outer part of the shoe...  ohmy.gif He does that a lot! Overall, a little less splashy and some more action would work though!
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Actually he uses that surface a lot ,I've never seen him using his left foot laugh.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
Quaresma has been about for a couple of seasons, and has impressed me loads, C.Ronaldo number 2 without a doubt.
misha
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Rising Star in Israel Hits the Fast Track of English Soccer

Ben Sahar did not play a big role in Chelsea’s run to the English F.A. Cup title. He did not play a part in Chelsea’s second-place finish in the Premier League. And Sahar did not step on to the field once as Chelsea advanced to the semifinals of the European Champions League.

But Sahar, a 17-year-old striker from Israel whose nickname is the Kid, is expected to be at the nexus of his national team’s attack in Saturday’s Euro 2008 qualifier in Group E against F.Y.R. Macedonia in Skopje. He will also lead Israel in the European U-21 championship in the Netherlands, which begins June 10 with a match against the host nation.

Sahar, Chelsea’s first Israeli player, was obtained one year ago from Hapoel Tel Aviv for a $635,000 transfer fee in a competition that included Arsenal, Tottenham (which traditionally has a large Jewish fan base) and Aston Villa. (He solved the problem of obtaining a British work permit by obtaining Polish citizenship because of his mother’s background.) Sahar spent most of the time on Chelsea’s reserve team before making his debut, as a substitute against Macclesfield Town in an F.A. Cup match on Jan. 6. He played in his first Premier League game, against Wigan Athletic, on Jan. 13.

But Sahar made the soccer world stand up and take notice when he scored two exquisite goals in a 4-0 Euro 2008 qualifier on March 28 against Estonia in his third appearance for the national team. The goals made him the youngest player to score in the history of Israel’s senior national team.

“Things now are actually a little bit crazy for me in Israel,” Sahar said in a recent telephone interview from London. “Everyone knows you. Sometimes it is nice to play away from Israel, what with all the media there watching you, wanting to see what you’re doing. In England, at least right now, I feel like a tourist. It is quiet and relaxed, even on one of the best teams.”

After the match against Macedonia, in which he is likely to start, Sahar will probably be released to the under-21 team for the eight-nation tournament in the Netherlands, and not play in the qualifier against Andorra on June 6, the national team’s administrator, Israel Stupinski, said yesterday by telephone from Israel.

In qualifying so far for next summer’s tournament, which Austria and Switzerland will co-host, Israel is 2 points behind Croatia, tied for second with England and Russia.

Later this summer, Sahar will accompany Chelsea on its United States tour, which will open July 14 with a match against Club América of Mexico in Stanford, Calif., and continue with a four-team tournament outside Los Angeles on July 17 and 21 (with Tigres UANL of Mexico, Suwon Bluewings of South Korea and the Galaxy of Major League Soccer).

After spending most of this past season with Chelsea’s reserve team, Sahar said he sees only good things in his future.

“When I first came to England I thought it would be difficult,” Sahar said. “A new country, a different culture. But all went very well. I feel a joy for football here. But you have to be strong and play very, very quickly.”

Asked his impression of Chelsea’s often-controversial and always-outspoken Portuguese coach, José Mourinho, Sahar said: “I knew José had always coached big teams, that he’s a big coach. When I train, he can see everything. Maybe when I play a little slow, he sees and tells me. He tells me to have no worries about the future. I believe I have the quality to play in England. I just have to work hard and show I deserve to be on the first team.”

The only remaining stumbling block to Sahar’s English adventure is the requisite 3 years of military service for Israeli men and women (2 years) 18 and older. Although Chelsea refused to comment on the prospect of losing Sahar, there have been reports from Israel that an exemption is in the works.

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He's the best player in Chelsea reserve/young teams and Mourinho is saying (and I agree smile.gif ) that he has a big future. He's only 17 but strong, fast and has a good technique.
kurtsimonw
I've not seen much of him, but the Israel team isn't half bad, and if he can get into it at 17 he's certainly going to show Theo Walcott who's London's best teen. cool.gif
Tennie
I've seen him play in Euro qualifiers. He's quite good.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 30 2007, 08:25 PM)
I've not seen much of him, but the Israel team isn't half bad, and if he can get into it at 17 he's certainly going to show Theo Walcott who's London's best teen.  cool.gif
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Watch the euro under-21 that starts in a few weeks. He scored the only goal against France to eliminate them in the playoff game to be there.
maldini03
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 22 2007, 11:04 AM)
Two words...Willie Aubameyang...

Speaking of which, what's the general opinion on Quaresma. I really like this guy. So he's not like a young prodigy, but he's a good player. Especially in that he can drift outside left and cut in. The sort of role I'd want Oli to play, but more and more I realize, he can't do that sorta thing too well.

I think Quaresma would be devastating if paired with Kaka and Gila, not to mention RR99.
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I think the merda have their hands on him or at least thats what i've heard if Figo leaves thats who they want
han2503
Quaresma is amazing, better than Ronaldo imo, can play as supporting striker or winger.

I would love to see him come to Milan, but I can't see us going for him
Portman
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 31 2007, 06:02 PM)
Quaresma is amazing, better than Ronaldo imo, can play as supporting striker or winger.

I would love to see him come to Milan, but I can't see us going for him
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Not consistent. He started the season well but in the last 7-8 matches he was sh!t. Too selfish sometimes. He's more like a "Joga Bonito" guy.

No way he'll be/is better than Ronaldo. Mentally Cristiano is way better. Quaresma is too weak in that field.
Anyway, we don't go for wingers. Specially a gipsy. wink.gif

Best portuguese wingers at the moment by order: Ronaldo > Simão > Quaresma > Nani.

I don't count Figo even if he stays 1 more year in Inter.
dst
Simao doesn't look a great player to me... I think he'd fail in a bigger team.
Tennie
He did have a spell at Barca that wasn't entirely successful (played in a CL game against Milan a few years ago). But he's class for Benfica and for the Portuguese NT. Simao very nearly went to Valencia last year (clubs had agreed terms, but he didn't agree terms with Valencia re wages).
KillerMax


wiki:

Andranik Teymourian is an Iranian football player currently playing for Bolton Wanderers in the FA Premier League and the Iran national football team. He usually plays as a defensive midfielder, but can also play as a winger.

He is one of my favorites at the moment. Very consistent and very talented. He has a good eye for goal too.

And there was this one other player who plays for Steaua with a kind of similar style as C. Ronaldo. I forgot his name, but he really caught my eye in the CL group stage games.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 31 2007, 02:57 PM)


wiki:

Andranik Teymourian is an Iranian football player currently playing for Bolton Wanderers in the FA Premier League and the Iran national football team. He usually plays as a defensive midfielder, but can also play as a winger.

He is one of my favorites at the moment. Very consistent and very talented. He has a good eye for goal too.

And there was this one other player who plays for Steaua with a kind of similar style as C. Ronaldo. I forgot his name, but he really caught my eye in the CL group stage games.
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ya i've seen play a couple of times. pretty nifty player, fun to watch. although it's obvious that you rate him highly cuz ur both persian!
KillerMax
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ May 31 2007, 02:11 PM)
ya i've seen play a couple of times. pretty nifty player, fun to watch. although it's obvious that you rate him highly cuz ur both persian!
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Obviously. But other than Mahdavikia and the legend that was Daei, all other Iranian players are not even close. Maybe Nekounam who plays for Osasuna in the Liga. Here's the thing, if Teymourian was to join Milan, he would be a great signing. I couldn't say the same about other Iranian players. wink.gif
misha
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 31 2007, 11:22 PM)
Obviously. But other than Mahdavikia and the legend that was Daei, all other Iranian players are not even close. Maybe Nekounam who plays for Osasuna in the Liga. Here's the thing, if Teymourian was to join Milan, he would be a great signing. I couldn't say the same about other Iranian players. wink.gif
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And it would be good move commercially
KillerMax
QUOTE (mishale @ May 31 2007, 02:28 PM)
And it would be good move commercially
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From what aspect?
misha
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 31 2007, 11:30 PM)
From what aspect?
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Milan would sell many merchandise in the arab world.
KillerMax
QUOTE (mishale @ May 31 2007, 02:33 PM)
Milan would sell many merchandise in the arab world.
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I don't think Arabs are fond of Iranians. I know for a fact that most Iranians despise Arabs (it's the whole Persian\ Aryans vs. Arabs thing rolleyes.gif ) So no, actually it wouldn't be any better than let's say Kaladze, commercially. Plus, Teymourian is Christian, so I would say no chance. biggrin.gif
whoarethepatriots
There was a good article on Parma's Dessena, a while back, but its gone missing on the eurosport page

basically think of him as kind of a pirlo player who makes devestating runs in the box

His passing is highly rated
KillerMax
I think Boijnov is a good talent also. He needs the right team and a the right coach though.
whoarethepatriots
My god, what has happened to cassano, he was so promising a few years back

He is a nobody now, who parties excessively, and loves to argue with managers
misha
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 31 2007, 11:53 PM)
I think Boijnov is a good talent also. He needs the right team and a the right coach though.
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I agree. This guy at 16 ohmy.gif was already playing in Serie A. He's only 21 now and a big talent
Portman
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ May 31 2007, 09:56 PM)
My god, what has happened to cassano, he was so promising a few years back

He is a nobody now, who parties excessively, and loves to argue with managers
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That's why he's probably goin' Inter. rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ May 31 2007, 09:08 PM)
That's why he's probably goin' Inter.  rolleyes.gif
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I feel that if he does make a return to Italy, his career will get back on track. He won't reach the potential he once promised, but will still make a decent player.
LaPalma

Manuel Neuer
21 Years, GK
Club: Schalke 04 (aka FC Gazprom)

Don't know if he was already mentioned on this forum but IMO he's the biggest GK talent out there. I've never seen such a brilliant and calm goalie as he is. He managed to bench Frank Rost, one of Germanys best goalie in the mid of the season. His reactions are simply amazing as well as his game in the box.
kurtsimonw
Sebastian Viera is the top young keeper in my eyes. He's only 23 and already proven.. Holds an Italian passport, too. Would be a nice replacement when Dida decides to call it a day.

Name: Diego Sebastián Viera Galaín
Birth Place: Florida, Uruguay
Date of Birth: July 03, 1983 (age 23)
Club: Villarreal CF

I know he's not that young, and everybody already knows who he is, doesn't mean he still can't be a top young keeper. cool.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 31 2007, 03:22 PM)
Obviously. But other than Mahdavikia and the legend that was Daei, all other Iranian players are not even close. Maybe Nekounam who plays for Osasuna in the Liga. Here's the thing, if Teymourian was to join Milan, he would be a great signing. I couldn't say the same about other Iranian players. wink.gif
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i dunno probably the best iranian talent i've ever seen is karimi. the guy is just sick to watch, he can dance threw a whole def. the only problem is he can't finish lol. but ya he isnt young anymore, and i bet he's been injured for most of the season.
KillerMax
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 1 2007, 12:40 AM)
i dunno probably the best iranian talent i've ever seen is karimi. the guy is just sick to watch, he can dance threw a whole def. the only problem is he can't finish lol. but ya he isnt young anymore, and i bet he's been injured for most of the season.
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He was the Asian player of the year and being dubbed is the 'Asian Maradona' a couple years ago. Probably one of the most talented players out there. But what is the problem you ask? He hates playing football. He only plays for the money. And these are his own words... rolleyes.gif While still playing in Iran, before he went to Al Ahli, he had offers from Atletico and Arsenal, but he refused because Al Ahli was offering more money. rolleyes.gif Then he joined Bayern because he got bored with Arab football. Now he is bored from German football. What a waste of talent. I hate him. mad.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 1 2007, 08:48 AM)
He was the Asian player of the year and being dubbed is the 'Asian Maradona' a couple years ago. Probably one of the most talented players out there. But what is the problem you ask? He hates playing football. He only plays for the money. And these are his own words... rolleyes.gif While still playing in Iran, before he went to Al Ahli, he had offers from Atletico and Arsenal, but he refused because Al Ahli was offering more money. rolleyes.gif Then he joined Bayern because he got bored with Arab football. Now he is bored from German football. What a waste of talent. I hate him. mad.gif
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I've seen him a couple of times, but he never really impressed me a lot.
MizNelson
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 31 2007, 04:30 PM)
I know he's not that young (23), and everybody already knows who he is, doesn't mean he still can't be a top young keeper.  cool.gif
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What's your definition of young, pre-puberty? smile.gif
kurtsimonw
I consider young players that are good prospects to be 21 at the oldest.

You can hardly call a 23 year old a prospect, he may only have 6 or so years left in him, by the time he gets to his best he may only have a few years at that level.
KillerMax
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 1 2007, 04:23 PM)
I consider young players that are good prospects to be 21 at the oldest.

You can hardly call a 23 year old a prospect, he may only have 6 or so years left in him, by the time he gets to his best he may only have a few years at that level.
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23 is definitely young. Players have different growth though.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 1 2007, 11:04 PM)
23 is definitely young. Players have different growth though.
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I'm changing my mind, 23 for a normal players isn't neccesarily young. It's different for a 'keeper though, they peak later.

So I'd say Viera is young. Thank god he didn't go to Arsenal. tongue.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Porty @ May 31 2007, 05:39 PM)
Not consistent. He started the season well but in the last 7-8 matches he was sh!t. Too selfish sometimes. He's more like a "Joga Bonito" guy.

No way he'll be/is better than Ronaldo. Mentally Cristiano is way better. Quaresma is too weak in that field.
Anyway, we don't go for wingers. Specially a gipsy.  wink.gif
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Please, it's not like Ronaldo is mentally strong, putting aside the fact that he cries like a 2 year old when something goes wrong for him, you'll see that if he comes up a against a team that marks him he won't even try to do anything, he resorts to hiding, not to mention his choking habits against big teams.

And besides Ronaldo is great at destroying weak teams that don't know how to defend in the premiership but when he comes up against a good, defensively organised team he can't do anything.

I've watched a lot or C.R this season, I've even watched him come on and win a game for Man U all on his own this season, but I still stand by what I said.

I would like to see what Ronaldo could actually do in Serie A, I would put money on him failing
dst
CR's only problem is the he doesn't think... you can't do the exact same thing against Charlton and against Milan! rolleyes.gif
redbabies
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 1 2007, 11:23 PM)
I consider young players that are good prospects to be 21 at the oldest.

You can hardly call a 23 year old a prospect, he may only have 6 or so years left in him, by the time he gets to his best he may only have a few years at that level.
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who was Toni 3 seasons ago? Top Serie B goalscorer, nothing more!

and at that time he was 27, with 28y he started his real career in Seria A with Palermo, and became great with 29. And not he moved to Bayern considered a big-signing with 30y smile.gif

so, 23 can still be a prospect (not always, but YES sometimes)
redbabies
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 3 2007, 05:43 PM)
Please, it's not like Ronaldo is mentally strong, putting aside the fact that he cries like a 2 year old when something goes wrong for him, you'll see that if he comes up a against a team that marks him he won't even try to do anything, he resorts to hiding, not to mention his choking habits against big teams.

And besides Ronaldo is great at destroying weak teams that don't know how to defend in the premiership but when he comes up against a good, defensively organised team he can't do anything.

I've watched a lot or C.R this season, I've even watched him come on and win a game for Man U all on his own this season, but I still stand by what I said.

I would like to see what Ronaldo could actually do in Serie A, I would put money on him failing
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C.R. has the talent, abilities, quality, speed, technique, but YES he misses some things that you mentioned.

But he just needs another season or two max. to get experience and become a full player. A player which will also succeed in Seria A.
LaPalma
Soo....another huge talent in the striking department

Name:Mario Gomez
Age:21 years
Position: CF
Club: VFB Stuttgart
International Experience: 2 games for Germany/2 goals

Great talent IMO. Does anyone here know him?
Hereis a video of him. Bad quality, but you get an idea of the player.
Jack Sparrow
I'll bloody kill anyone who's thinkin of taking him away from Stuttgart.

So LaPalma how'd u say Forza Stuttgart in German?
LaPalma
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 20 2007, 04:20 AM)
I'll bloody kill anyone who's thinkin of taking him away from Stuttgart.

So LaPalma how'd u say Forza Stuttgart in German?
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There's no real equivalent but you can say "Vorwärts Stuttgart" or "Auf geht's Stuttgart", but most of the time german fans only scream the name of their Club which would be "BOCHUM BOCHUM!" rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
^^^
ohmy.gif Ahh so Bochum is German for Stuttgart....

Cool...cool.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 20 2007, 06:08 PM)
^^^
ohmy.gif Ahh so Bochum is German for Stuttgart....

Cool...cool.gif
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Bochum is also german for Bayern Munich and Bremen...and Hamburg....and Dortmund....
Tennie
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 20 2007, 02:22 PM)
Bochum is also german for Bayern Munich and Bremen...and Hamburg....and Dortmund....
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But I thought German for Bayern was 'scheisse'? rolleyes.gif
dst
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 20 2007, 09:24 PM)
But I thought German for Bayern was 'scheisse'?  rolleyes.gif
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Wow!! You're using emoticons!!! ohmy.gif
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