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post Aug 22 2016, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2016, 07:39 PM) *
Just to make it clear, I'm not advocating for us getting Stambouli, but just stating why we would sign him and not Kovacic. It's simple really, we don't have any money and we're going around offering clubs loan + option deals for players that are good and if they wanted to sell them they'd get instant cash for and it's why we're getting rejected left and right.

I disagree about a winger at this point. The midfield 3 needs a complete overhaul, so midfielder is first priority and we shouldn't be signing any other players if not that

But you're contradictory. Sure, we need a complete midfield overhaul, but right now this is impossible and points us in the direction of signing players like Stambouli who'll then become baggage for the near future. I don't think 9 days and no money can do the trick for the midfield problem, except a miracle like Kovačić happens.

So this is why I propose we concentrate on signing a winger instead: because it's more doable, it would give us some short-term solutions and there's much more available wingers who are qualified to do a step forward for us then there is midfielders.

@X-O: I also think Suso deserves a fair chance. But from what I've see against Torino, he has a long way to impress us and make us integrate him in our squad. He leaves lots to be desired; if he wants to stay and be a starter he needs to turn more effort in. For a season debut his showing was rather weak.
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post Aug 22 2016, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2016, 07:44 PM) *
@X-O: I also think Suso deserves a fair chance. But from what I've see against Torino, he has a long way to impress us and make us integrate him in our squad. He leaves lots to be desired; if he wants to stay and be a starter he needs to turn more effort in. For a season debut his showing was rather weak.


That's why I said he needs to be given a proper chance. He's barely had 5 games in total since he joined us. Montella seems to have faith in him, and that's important because above everything else he needs confidence, that he won't be axed after one bad game like with Pippo and Miha.

He was alright yesterday, nothing impressive but not bad either. The kid has quality, you can clearly see in how he handles the ball. But aye, he also need to put more effort in. Hopefully with time he'll feel more comfortable and show his talent.
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post Aug 23 2016, 12:24 AM
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Valencia, Celta Vigo and Sevilla have inquired about Diego Lopez. [Mundo Deportivo]

Nabil Bentaleb, 21 year old midfielder of Tottenham, has been proposed to Milan. Milan have not given an answer yet, however he doesn't excite the club. #Sky

Di Stefano: With the injury of Bertolacci, now it becomes necessary to sign a midfielder. If a regista arrives, Montella could also use Montolivo as an internal midfielder.

MilanTV confirms the Rossoneri can only sign players on loan + option but Paris Saint-Germain want to sell Stambouli on a permanent basis.

From Turkey: Milan on Quaresma. Galliani preparing a €3.5m offer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

Paletta's agent is in Milan to meet with Galliani. Atalanta want him back, Bologna and Palermo are also interested.
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Torino have offered Milan a loan + option to buy for Gabriel. Milan have not yet accepted.
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post Aug 23 2016, 12:31 AM
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Apparently Schalke have offered 10 million for Stambouli and PSG are bound to accept.

Another target lost to competition. The club has a budget of 3-5 million for loans with option to buy but not obligation.

Source: TMW

Meh, injuries or not, at this point it's fruitless to keep looking around. Clubs are not stupid, they won't handle you players on a silver platter for bread crumbs.
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post Aug 23 2016, 02:51 AM
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IMO paying 10M for Stambouli would be stupid, so good news.
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post Aug 23 2016, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 23 2016, 01:24 AM) *
From Turkey: Milan on Quaresma. Galliani preparing a €3.5m offer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

Quaresma at his best would barely be good enough for the current Milan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Aug 23 2016, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (maldini03 @ Aug 22 2016, 06:26 PM) *
Yeah I'm with Han here, although getting Kovacic would be amazing, at this point it seems very unlikely. Besides that I see him as more of a Mezzala than an anchor, typically because when I think of an anchor I think of both the ability to distribute the ball and in the modern game to have some type of defensive quality. To me Strootman is what I think of when I think of a prototypical anchor or a van Bommel.

I have read today that PSG also want the money up front, so Stambouli may be out of the question as well. I think Diawara would have been a good option although he isn't a typical anchor either. For the paltry money we have to play with up front, I doubt we can get anyone of real high quality. Its a shame because the midfield 3 is where we really need help.

As far as the Suso situation goes, I don't think he is good enough and I don't see anyone as a quality replacement for him. When I was watching the game on Sunday the announcer was saying something about Lapadula being able to replace him. I've only watched youtube vids on Lapa, anyone know if he would be a good option out wide?

Yeah, agreed about Kovacic and the type of mid we need but if the opportunity came up to bring him here we need to jump on it.

Diawara is most likely going to Napoli, which is a shame as the kid has promise

And no, Lapadula can’t play on the wing, he’s a pure CF, very similar to Adriano and Bacca. I honestly don’t understand why we even signed him at this point… I guess they were sure they’d be able to cash in on Bacca
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2016, 07:19 PM) *
I think he's a good player that needs to be given a proper chance before being shown the exit door.

I think he’s a good player as well but I wouldn’t be surprised if he failed to really make his mark with us. He just doesn’t strike me as the type of player that would really step up and carry a team.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2016, 07:44 PM) *
But you're contradictory. Sure, we need a complete midfield overhaul, but right now this is impossible and points us in the direction of signing players like Stambouli who'll then become baggage for the near future. I don't think 9 days and no money can do the trick for the midfield problem, except a miracle like Kovačić happens.

So this is why I propose we concentrate on signing a winger instead: because it's more doable, it would give us some short-term solutions and there's much more available wingers who are qualified to do a step forward for us then there is midfielders.

@X-O: I also think Suso deserves a fair chance. But from what I've see against Torino, he has a long way to impress us and make us integrate him in our squad. He leaves lots to be desired; if he wants to stay and be a starter he needs to turn more effort in. For a season debut his showing was rather weak.

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How am I being contradictory when I’m simply stating what our current situation is, and it’s not even an opinion, Milan channel even confirmed that we can’t make loans with obligations. So no club will be willing to give us any of their good players when we can’t even commit ourselves to paying for them next year.

I said our biggest problems lie with the midfield, and if we’re being honest here we’d have to say that all 3 in that midfield need to be changed, that being said it’s not going to happen so we have to spot the area that’s in the most desperate of situations in that midfield and try to address it, and that’s Monto’s spot. If we can’t even do that then I’d rather that everything stays as is for now and then re-assess in the winter when we’ll have a proper budget to work with and competent people handling it.

I don’t understand how a winger would solve any of our problems though, all our issues lie with the midfield as it’s practically non-existent. So we struggle when defending, when attacking and when we’re trying to control the game.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 23 2016, 02:51 AM) *
IMO paying 10M for Stambouli would be stupid, so good news.

Agreed, at his point if we can’t sign anyone who’s capable of improving the team than we should just leave things as they are.

I’d still try to get Caceras and Bastian though (I read he’s negotiating a contract termination with Man U). They’d both be free (which is the only price we can afford atm) and they’d both provide a jump in quality for us
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post Aug 23 2016, 01:35 PM
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West Ham are ready to make another offer (more than €30m) for Carlos Bacca. #CorSport

Milan have received a new offer from West Ham for Bacca, but this time Milan rejected it.
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Ag.Milan Badelj : "The new tentative by Milan? Up to 31 there is still time."

A new name for the midfield is Obiang, he is valued €6m. Fiorentina and Torino are also interested. #TuttoSport

Honda could leave Milan, Premier League is a possible destination. #CorSport

Berlusconi could intervene again to unblock the market, as he did for Gustavo Gomez. Montella wants 2 more players, a midfileder and a central defender. Milan have not lost all the hopes for Badelj, while Fiorentina are dealing with West Ham for Obiang. #CorSport

Gabriel is not on the market. Milan have told the Brazilian he will not leave. [GdS]

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Now we're after Tomas Rincon.

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Good, so after Antonelli, Kucka and Bertolacci we can finally change our club name to Genoa 2.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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In my opinion Badelj is a pretty good player and surely better then the lot we have now, I think bringing him in would be prudent and probably not cost too much. He is a good distributer and he facilitates transition well between the defense and forwards.

I hope to see some of the names being mentioned leave. Honda has never really shown that he can fit into the modern system for us. To me he is a typical slow playmaker who has kind of become a relic today with the creative duties moving to wider players and deeper midfielders. As far as Bacca is concerned I think he was dynamic for us in the game the other day and he is truly deadly in front of goal, but if West Ham are willing to shell out 40-45M for him I would be fine with letting him go. With his age this season or next season will probably be his peak and as far as this season goes I don't see us making a real push for the CL. I think our build is gonna still be slow, maybe this year EL and potentially (hopefully) next year CL. I'd like to see us get younger and begin to grow into quality. As we have seen in the past with Man City buying players t their prime doesn't get you too far. Plus I can't see us having an endless pool of cash like they do. Our buys will have to be smart and we have to build a strong core to achieve success.

To me Suso doesn't have that X-factor that you need out of a winger. For some it is blinding pace, and others it is the ability to cut inside and punish players. It appeared easy for Torino's defenders to figure him out and push him to his right foot effectively limiting his abilty to get involved. If we could get Cuadrado or another player to improve the position id say go for it but at this point that seems unlikely, so I think we should just let him have a real chance. Behind him though, the options are very limited and there is no one on this team on the bench who can spark the team to life.

As far as defenders go the options seem rough. What happened to Mangala I thought he wanted to leave Man City? I would take him in a heartbeat before I would go for Rincon. If I'm dreaming I'd love to make a move for Eriksen from Tottenham, I read somewhere that he is unhappy and I think he would be amazing for us, and if I'm dreaming we might as well grab Jan Vertonghen while we are at it.
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Rodrigo Caio is heading to Italy in these hours in order to get his EU passport. Milan can sign him if he gets his passport until August 31. But first need to sell to make money, Sevilla are offering €9.5m for Honda. #Goal

Schalke have reached an agreement with Tottenham to sign Nabil Bentaleb on loan. #LEquipe
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 23 2016, 09:55 PM) *
Rodrigo Caio is heading to Italy in these hours in order to get his EU passport. Milan can sign him if he gets his passport until August 31. But first need to sell to make money, Sevilla are offering €9.5m for Honda. #Goal

Schalke have reached an agreement with Tottenham to sign Nabil Bentaleb on loan. #LEquipe


Is Schalke on a mission to sign all our targets? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2016, 01:32 AM) *
Is Schalke on a mission to sign all our targets? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Bentaleb doesn't convince Milan due to the midfield role he plays [Di Marzio]
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According to Repubblica, Chelsea's offer for Romagnoli will be €45m + €5m bonuses. If Milan decide to sell him, they could make new attempts to sign Musacchio and Badelj.

Interesting how Romagnolis price easily has jumped up to 50m but we sold Silva for 40. I hope we don't sell Romagnoli though, he has great talent and has prospect to be the best defender in the world. Also wasn't Conte the one who didn't get him in Euro 2016 ?!
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post Aug 24 2016, 09:24 AM
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Hmh, a few more millions and I'd seriously consider this.
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