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Aug 21 2016, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 21 2016, 02:16 PM)  MIRROR: "Sunderland will offer around 10 milion for the Japanese. Now Honda will decide what he will do."
I would like this move to happen. 10 million for Honda is more than enough considering his form in recent months. Getting 10m for him would be great and re-injecting that into a budget that's supposedly around 7m will give us a few more options. I'd try to sell Poli for around 4m as well and go all in for Kovacic We also need to try selling Adriano now as well. There were reports saying Porto offered 8m for him. With that cash combined we could get Kovacic for sure
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Aug 21 2016, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2016, 02:23 PM)  10 million for Honda is overpaying us. The EPL sides have cash to splash and if we can milk some of that then we need to take it and run. Problem is that Honda will most likely reject this type of move.
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Aug 21 2016, 02:41 PM
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I believe he has already rejected. In any case 14 Million will hardly land us Kovacic. In any case, Kovacic isn't that awesome a player. If so, he'd have gotten at least a game at Real Madrid under Zidane.
Now I hear Montella is asking for a CB instead. Curious about that. To be honest, I'd be surprised if any more transfers happen. We're almost out of time.
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Aug 22 2016, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 21 2016, 02:41 PM)  I believe he has already rejected. In any case 14 Million will hardly land us Kovacic. In any case, Kovacic isn't that awesome a player. If so, he'd have gotten at least a game at Real Madrid under Zidane.
Now I hear Montella is asking for a CB instead. Curious about that. To be honest, I'd be surprised if any more transfers happen. We're almost out of time. 10m for Honda, around 8 or 9m for Adriano and another 4m for Poli would give us over 20m to spend, in any case I don't think Kovacic is even an option anymore as I think he started for Real in the league yesterday. But that kind of money could still get us Paredes who I think is very promising and is exactly the type of player we need. He was great for Roma in their opener as well. Watching the game yesterday, the full extent of our problems was shown as clear as day. Our midfield is practically non-existent and our defensive options are thread bare. If Romagnoli were to get injured we'd be in serious trouble. Paletta is as much an accident waiting to happen as Zapata is. Honestly, if we had a smart man running this transfer window, we'd have gone after Caceras, who's free and better than all our other CB option bar Romagnoli. That and he's a very versatile player who can move to the FB position should we need him to Also, Schweinsteiger would be another masterstroke move that would fix a lot of our midfield problems, but instead we brought in an AM instead of a regista which is what our midfield needs. Monto simply can't cut it anymore, and last night showed this perfectly in the last 20 minutes or so when there was absolutely no one who could put his foot on the ball, calm things down and retain possession for us instead of constantly losing the ball and allowing Toro to keep putting us under pressure which allowed them to score and then subsequently get a penalty
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Aug 22 2016, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2016, 08:41 AM)  10m for Honda, around 8 or 9m for Adriano and another 4m for Poli would give us over 20m to spend, in any case I don't think Kovacic is even an option anymore as I think he started for Real in the league yesterday. But that kind of money could still get us Paredes who I think is very promising and is exactly the type of player we need. He was great for Roma in their opener as well.
Watching the game yesterday, the full extent of our problems was shown as clear as day. Our midfield is practically non-existent and our defensive options are thread bare. If Romagnoli were to get injured we'd be in serious trouble. Paletta is as much an accident waiting to happen as Zapata is.
Honestly, if we had a smart man running this transfer window, we'd have gone after Caceras, who's free and better than all our other CB option bar Romagnoli. That and he's a very versatile player who can move to the FB position should we need him to
Also, Schweinsteiger would be another masterstroke move that would fix a lot of our midfield problems, but instead we brought in an AM instead of a regista which is what our midfield needs. Monto simply can't cut it anymore, and last night showed this perfectly in the last 20 minutes or so when there was absolutely no one who could put his foot on the ball, calm things down and retain possession for us instead of constantly losing the ball and allowing Toro to keep putting us under pressure which allowed them to score and then subsequently get a penalty Everything you said makes perfect sense, which is exactly why it didn't/won't happen. Galliani is an idiot, an utter imbecile when it comes to transfers. Let's put our hearts at peace and wait for his leaving. Rumors from France say Stambouli could happen today. /Mediaset
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Aug 22 2016, 11:40 AM
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Caceres is very injury prone Han. I'm not sure he's the right pick. And I'd prefer Kovačić over Stambouli anytime.
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Aug 22 2016, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2016, 10:14 AM)  Everything you said makes perfect sense, which is exactly why it didn't/won't happen. Galliani is an idiot, an utter imbecile when it comes to transfers. Let's put our hearts at peace and wait for his leaving.
Rumors from France say Stambouli could happen today. /Mediaset Stambouli is average and more of a holding mid than a regista. But he's the only player we could realistically get for a loan + option type of formula which is what we can offer atm. The day Galliani leaves will be a great and momentous day for this club. He spent our entire budget on backup players when we had a squad that was already filled with backup players and finished 7th last season. @ Fillipo, Caceras might be injury prone but he's the only name that we can get, not to mention that he's better than all our other CBs bar Romagnoli. As for the Kovacic vs Stambouli thing, obviously anyone would take Kovacic over Stambouli, but Kovacic is not doable for a club with no budget. Plus I think Real will keep a hold of him, at least for next season. We can't even get Serie A players who are valued at more "affordable" prices, we don't have any chance at getting Kovacic at this point. Stambouli is not wanted by PSG and the only reason they'd probably agree to our loan + option solution is because they want to trim down their squad
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Aug 22 2016, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2016, 03:49 PM)  @ Fillipo, Caceras might be injury prone but he's the only name that we can get, not to mention that he's better than all our other CBs bar Romagnoli. As for the Kovacic vs Stambouli thing, obviously anyone would take Kovacic over Stambouli, but Kovacic is not doable for a club with no budget. Plus I think Real will keep a hold of him, at least for next season.
We can't even get Serie A players who are valued at more "affordable" prices, we don't have any chance at getting Kovacic at this point. Stambouli is not wanted by PSG and the only reason they'd probably agree to our loan + option solution is because they want to trim down their squad IMO we should try and get better players. What will Stambouli bring us so special that isn't already there with Kucka, Poli and Berto? I think we should either bring in Kovačić or give up on that kind of players and try get an extra winger. Suso seems to me very limited and perhaps more suitable for small teams. What we need is a proper, dangerous and creative midfielder, I think Cuadrado could be the one. Caceres is a solid option, but I'd rather we stayed with Mexes or Alex compared to that option (I rate both above him). But surely we can come up with a solution that's better.
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Aug 22 2016, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2016, 03:59 PM)  IMO we should try and get better players. What will Stambouli bring us so special that isn't already there with Kucka, Poli and Berto? I think we should either bring in Kovačić or give up on that kind of players and try get an extra winger. Suso seems to me very limited and perhaps more suitable for small teams. What we need is a proper, dangerous and creative midfielder, I think Cuadrado could be the one.
Caceres is a solid option, but I'd rather we stayed with Mexes or Alex compared to that option (I rate both above him). But surely we can come up with a solution that's better. Just to make it clear, I'm not advocating for us getting Stambouli, but just stating why we would sign him and not Kovacic. It's simple really, we don't have any money and we're going around offering clubs loan + option deals for players that are good and if they wanted to sell them they'd get instant cash for and it's why we're getting rejected left and right. I disagree about a winger at this point. The midfield 3 needs a complete overhaul, so midfielder is first priority and we shouldn't be signing any other players if not that QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2016, 04:50 PM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Question; What's your fascination with Suso?
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Aug 22 2016, 05:55 PM
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I think Galliani said he's looking for a vice Montolivo. Sounds interesting (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Btw, Thiago Silva enters his last year of contract next season. He will be 32. We will have the money and he loves Milan. I think it can happen, if we are in CL. . . . . So I guess it won't happen. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Aug 22 2016, 06:26 PM
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Yeah I'm with Han here, although getting Kovacic would be amazing, at this point it seems very unlikely. Besides that I see him as more of a Mezzala than an anchor, typically because when I think of an anchor I think of both the ability to distribute the ball and in the modern game to have some type of defensive quality. To me Strootman is what I think of when I think of a prototypical anchor or a van Bommel.
I have read today that PSG also want the money up front, so Stambouli may be out of the question as well. I think Diawara would have been a good option although he isn't a typical anchor either. For the paltry money we have to play with up front, I doubt we can get anyone of real high quality. Its a shame because the midfield 3 is where we really need help.
As far as the Suso situation goes, I don't think he is good enough and I don't see anyone as a quality replacement for him. When I was watching the game on Sunday the announcer was saying something about Lapadula being able to replace him. I've only watched youtube vids on Lapa, anyone know if he would be a good option out wide?
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