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post Aug 16 2016, 08:22 PM
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Milan are close to signing Sosa so they could use the other half of the budget (€7M) on a player like El Ghazi. The only team to ask for El Ghazi is Wolverhampton. Jorge Mendes has proposed El Ghazi to Milan. [Sky]
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post Aug 16 2016, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 16 2016, 08:22 PM) *
Milan are close to signing Sosa so they could use the other half of the budget (€7M) on a player like El Ghazi. The only team to ask for El Ghazi is Wolverhampton. Jorge Mendes has proposed El Ghazi to Milan. [Sky]


Which means no Bentacour as the only non-EU spot will be filled by Sosa. Whoop-de-fucking-do!
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post Aug 17 2016, 04:56 AM
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C'mon man, we offered him 14 million and 2 million as bonuses and Boca said no deal. Whether Juve got involved or not is immaterial. We can't pay more than that for a 19 year old S.American who is still establishing himself in his current team. Can't blame it on the club for this one.

Sosa is a pretty proven player and word is we might go for one more midfielder. So that does seem like a better deal to me.
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post Aug 17 2016, 08:54 AM
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Jose Sosa with Milan sporting director Rocco Maiorino after landing in Milan a while ago. He'll undergo his medical in the morning at 10:00 (Italy local time) [photo via Gianluca Di Marzio]. https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...amp;oe=5857F2E3


Milan's mercato is not over after signing Sosa. They could once again turn to Kovacic and El Ghazi. [GdS]

After landing Sosa, Milan want to sign another midfielder. Fernando(Man City) and Diawara (Bologna) are possible targets. There are no negotiations at the moment, only ideas, but Milan are expected to sign another midfielder after Jose Sosa[Sky]
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post Aug 17 2016, 09:07 AM
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What I would do if I was in charge of Milans transfer market is to sell Adriano (since we already have 3 central forwards and we are going to play only one), Honda (because we could get some money from him and he surely wont be first choice) and Poli.

If we get 7m for Adriano, 8m for Honda and 6m for Poli (even though Im sure we would have bought them for much more if we were interested in them and they were not our players), with 7 left in our budget we would have 28m left, enough to go after a decent midfielder, and play like this:

----------------Donnarumma
--Abate -- Gomez --- Romagnoli -- De Sciglio
------ Sosa -- MisterX -- Bertolacci
----Niang--------------------Bonaventura
------------------Bacca

We would still have a not so bad bench wich Paletta/Zapata/Ely, Calabria/Antonelli/Vangioni, Kucka/Montolivo/Locatelli/Mauri, Suso/Lapadula. We would have less players in attack but Niang could play in the left if necessary, also we could promote a younger just as a back up.

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post Aug 17 2016, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 16 2016, 09:39 PM) *
Which means no Bentacour as the only non-EU spot will be filled by Sosa. Whoop-de-fucking-do!

That's a good thing imo.

Also, apparently Boca were trying to swindle us for him. They rejected our offer of 14m + 1m bonuses + 20% of any future sale because they wanted 17m + the extra bonuses to stay on. Which is ridiculous as we could sign an already established Serie A player for that kind of money and not a complete gamble out of the Argentenian league who's far and away from setting the league on fire
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post Aug 17 2016, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 17 2016, 04:56 AM) *
C'mon man, we offered him 14 million and 2 million as bonuses and Boca said no deal. Whether Juve got involved or not is immaterial. We can't pay more than that for a 19 year old S.American who is still establishing himself in his current team. Can't blame it on the club for this one.

Sosa is a pretty proven player and word is we might go for one more midfielder. So that does seem like a better deal to me.

Agreed.

Sosa might not be who we all wanted but he’s the smarter buy for a short term solution who can also be used as an instant fix. Bentancur was a total gamble

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 17 2016, 08:54 AM) *
Jose Sosa with Milan sporting director Rocco Maiorino after landing in Milan a while ago. He'll undergo his medical in the morning at 10:00 (Italy local time) [photo via Gianluca Di Marzio]. https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...amp;oe=5857F2E3

Milan's mercato is not over after signing Sosa. They could once again turn to Kovacic and El Ghazi. [GdS]

After landing Sosa, Milan want to sign another midfielder. Fernando(Man City) and Diawara (Bologna) are possible targets. There are no negotiations at the moment, only ideas, but Milan are expected to sign another midfielder after Jose Sosa[Sky]

I 100% believe we’ll get another mid, but sadly that won’t be Kovacic. And looking at our current set of players we need a regista more than someone like Kovacic now that we’ve signed Sosa (not saying I wouldn’t be happy with Kovacic but I don’t think that’s who we’ll be going after)
Diawara is more realistic plus I think he has a lot of potential. Still think we need a proper regista though, Monto simply won’t cut it
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 17 2016, 09:07 AM) *
What I would do if I was in charge of Milans transfer market is to sell Adriano (since we already have 3 central forwards and we are going to play only one), Honda (because we could get some money from him and he surely wont be first choice) and Poli.

If we get 7m for Adriano, 8m for Honda and 6m for Poli (even though Im sure we would have bought them for much more if we were interested in them and they were not our players), with 7 left in our budget we would have 28m left, enough to go after a decent midfielder, and play like this:

----------------Donnarumma
--Abate -- Gomez --- Romagnoli -- De Sciglio
------ Sosa -- MisterX -- Bertolacci
----Niang--------------------Bonaventura
------------------Bacca

We would still have a not so bad bench wich Paletta/Zapata/Ely, Calabria/Antonelli/Vangioni, Kucka/Montolivo/Locatelli/Mauri, Suso/Lapadula. We would have less players in attack but Niang could play in the left if necessary, also we could promote a younger just as a back up.

It seems like we’ve lost all sense of business savvy. We’re handing over player who are at least worth something for free because we’re desperate to get their wages off the payroll. Matri and Menez were both worth something that could have at least boosted our nonexistent budget but we were happy to just offload them for nothing.

Also, I’d prefer Kucka over Bertolacci. Both are pretty bad but at least Kucka offers a bit of physicality in an otherwise very weak midfield.
Not sure about Gomez, I think we’ll have to wait it out a bit to see if he’s good enough to start


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post Aug 17 2016, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 17 2016, 11:56 AM) *
It seems like we’ve lost all sense of business savvy. We’re handing over player who are at least worth something for free because we’re desperate to get their wages off the payroll. Matri and Menez were both worth something that could have at least boosted our nonexistent budget but we were happy to just offload them for nothing.

Also, I’d prefer Kucka over Bertolacci. Both are pretty bad but at least Kucka offers a bit of physicality in an otherwise very weak midfield.
Not sure about Gomez, I think we’ll have to wait it out a bit to see if he’s good enough to start


Yeah, the only reason I put Bertolacci right there is because I think we should give him just one more chance since we invested quite much in him and to be honest I still think that he has more potential.

As for Gomez, I put him there cos he looked decent in our last friendly and I cant just think that we might have to play Zapata or Paletta there.
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:37 AM
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Sosa is an AM. So, where will he play in Montella's 4-3-3?
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:58 AM
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He will probably play as a mezzala.
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post Aug 17 2016, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 17 2016, 10:58 AM) *
He will probably play as a mezzala.


Hm, I'd rather play him as AM and switch to 4-2-3-1:

Montolivo - Bertolacci
Suso - Sosa - Bona
Bacca


We all know that's not gonna happen, though.

PS: I hate seeing Niang as winger.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 17 2016, 02:31 PM) *
Hm, I'd rather play him as AM and switch to 4-2-3-1:

Montolivo - Bertolacci
Suso - Sosa - Bona
Bacca


We all know that's not gonna happen, though.

PS: I hate seeing Niang as winger.


Yeah that is how I will propably play in FM 2017, but do you really think Montolivo - Bertolacci are capable of holding when we are not in possesion ?
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post Aug 17 2016, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 17 2016, 01:07 PM) *
Yeah that is how I will propably play in FM 2017, but do you really think Montolivo - Bertolacci are capable of holding when we are not in possesion ?


They have the right characteristics. Whether they can do it or not depends on how much effort they put.

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post Aug 17 2016, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 17 2016, 04:10 PM) *
They have the right characteristics. Whether they can do it or not depends on how much effort they put.


Montolivo can play as an attacking playmaker and deep lying playmaker while Bertolacci is a mezzala and he can play as box to box too, but none of them are defansive midfielders, not to mention ball winning midfielders like Kucka or De Jong for example.

Milan TV: "Milan are looking for a central midfielder with defensive characteristics. Rossoneri want on loan with option to buy. At the moment there are talks about Diawara, but it seems difficult that Bologna will let him, as they prefer obligation to buy."

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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Aug 17 2016, 02:35 PM) *
Montolivo can play as an attacking playmaker and deep lying playmaker while Bertolacci is a mezzala and he can play as box to box too, but none of them are defansive midfielders, not to mention ball winning midfielders like Kucka or De Jong for example.

Milan TV: "Milan are looking for a central midfielder with defensive characteristics. Rossoneri want on loan with option to buy. At the moment there are talks about Diawara, but it seems difficult that Bologna will let him, as they prefer obligation to buy."


Both Montolivo and Bertolacci made names for themselves by plaing in the double-pivot for Fiorentina and Genoa, respectively. Bertolacci more recently, as Montolivo is now approaching 32 and can't play anywhere else in midfield except for in front of the defense.

As for your argument that neither of them are defensive midfielders and ball winners, I disagree. In modern football nowadays being a ball winner is the prerequisite for every central midfielder. Gone are the days when you had one-dimensional players like Gattuso or Davids whose only jobs were to win balls and press the opponent. Bertolacci is certainly a box-to-box kind of players who can certainly pull off the duties of a DM if he puts his head into it. Same argument for Monto, although his easy-going attitude and slowness can make it a bit more difficult. You can perfectly play Kucka in there as well.
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