[han2503]

Going by all that tomorrow's team is:

--------------Lopez

Abate-----Alex---Zapata----Bonera

Poli------De Jong-------Muntari

Menez------Pazzo/Torres-----Honda

No Bona or MvG. Can't express how disappointing that midfield selection is. Or how bewildering Bonera at LB again is. Yes, that's my conjecture but I have a feeling.

PS @ X Off - Pippo talking about the 'three roles in midfield' is kinda what I've been getting at.

PPS: Could all be mind games and he's going to select all the new players.

Yes there are 3 roles but I don't get the AM bit you were referencing tbh. The only teams that actually do/did that were Real and Barca (Di Maria/Iniesta), every other side that uses a 3 man midfield usually has a creator, a box-to-box guy and a DM. For me personally those are the 3 roles. Honda or Jack would be the creators

[Danny]

Er, creator = treq = Bona
B2B = CM = MvG
DM = De Jong

I honestly don't understand the issue you two have grasping this!

[X-Offender]

Er, creator = treq = Bona
B2B = CM = MvG
DM = De Jong

I honestly don't understand the issue you two have grasping this!

There's no issue, I grasp it perfectly, I just think the terminology you use is inappropriate. Had you said creator instead of AM I would have been more than fine with.

[han2503]

Er, creator = treq = Bona
B2B = CM = MvG
DM = De Jong

I honestly don't understand the issue you two have grasping this!

A creator is not necessarily a trequartista. imo it's even more inappropriate to call him a treq because the word is derived from the position on the pitch as far as I know

A creator can be a pure CM, Pirlo, Modric, Xavi, Cesc, Alonso, etc are all CMs who create

[X-Offender]

A creator is not necessarily a trequartista. imo it's even more inappropriate to call him a treq because the word is derived from the position on the pitch as far as I know

A creator can be a pure CM, Pirlo, Modric, Xavi, Cesc, Alonso, etc are all CMs who create

Precisely.

[Danny]

A creator is not necessarily a trequartista. imo it's even more inappropriate to call him a treq because the word is derived from the position on the pitch as far as I know

A creator can be a pure CM, Pirlo, Modric, Xavi, Cesc, Alonso, etc are all CMs who create

Even De Jong creates and he's a flipping DM.

The point is with the three you have the different positions, DM, CM, AM. But the dynamics of a three sees all 3 of them able to cover for EVERY ONE OF THE OTHERS when need be.

Primarily Honda/Bona is an AM but he can defend on occasion, like a DM, or feed players ahead of him, like a CM.

Primarily De Jong is a DM but he can get the passes out like a CM or score a belter of a headed goal V Inter, like an AM.

Primarily Poli is a CM but he can defend AND attack as well as work in the middle.

And that is my last f*ckin' post on this drivel. Had enough!

[han2503]

Even De Jong creates and he's a flipping DM.

The point is with the three you have the different positions, DM, CM, AM. But the dynamics of a three sees all 3 of them able to cover for EVERY ONE OF THE OTHERS when need be.

Primarily Honda/Bona is an AM but he can defend on occasion, like a DM, or feed players ahead of him, like a CM.

Primarily De Jong is a DM but he can get the passes out like a CM or score a belter of a headed goal V Inter, like an AM.

Primarily Poli is a CM but he can defend AND attack as well as work in the middle.

And that is my last f*ckin' post on this drivel. Had enough!

We're all going to talk in circles because we're arguing about completely different things imo, so we're never going to have a consensus

One last final point, I agree with everything you said above about the players' roles and contributions.

But for me, in a midfield 3 you have a CM, DM, CM. Honda or Bonaventura would have to play the role of a CM if they were to play in the 3. That's my main point because for me, there's no AM in the midfield 3 of a 4-3-3 formation. An AM for me only exists in a 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1/4-2-3-1, all of which he's playing behind the striker/s

[Danny]

I agree with everything you said

Just reply to me with this from now on old friend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

Danny, Bonera almost certainly won't play as LB while DS is available. If he plays tomorrow (hope he won't ), it will be as CB.

This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Sep 13 2014, 09:15 PM

[X-Offender]

Bonaventura might play instead of Torres tomorrow, Mediaset reports.

Jack-Menez-Honda? Not enough striker potential in there. Since SES is injured, Torres has to play.

Also, I really hope Zapata or Rami play instead of frigging Bonera. This guy must have a special charm or something for coaches to select him so often...

[Jack Bauer]

He must be using a private detective to find dirt on them.

[X-Offender]

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[Danny]

Danny, Bonera almost certainly won't play as LB while DS is available. If he plays tomorrow (hope he won't ), it will be as CB.

I'd have thought the same with a world cup quarter finalist Colombian LB by the name of Armero in our squad v Lazio, but Bonera started over him too.

[han2503]

We'll just have to swallow down the fact that coaches just like Bonera, he's probably a good influence among the other players, has been here a long time, and let's not forget was team mates with our last and current coaches. So we just have to endure it for now (until he has his usual nightmarish showing and then he's banished to the bench for the rest of the season)

[Jack Bauer]

I'd have thought the same with a world cup quarter finalist Colombian LB by the name of Armero in our squad v Lazio, but Bonera started over him too.

Not the same. There have been reports that Pippo is still not convinced by Armero so him not starting wasn't a huge surprise (even though I disagree) but DS is a completely different story. I have no doubt that DS will be a sure starter.