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post Sep 14 2014, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 13 2014, 10:52 PM) *
Not the same. There have been reports that Pippo is still not convinced by Armero so him not starting wasn't a huge surprise (even though I disagree) but DS is a completely different story. I have no doubt that DS will be a sure starter.


Perhaps, but at R or LB?
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post Sep 14 2014, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2014, 10:45 PM) *
We'll just have to swallow down the fact that coaches just like Bonera, he's probably a good influence among the other players, has been here a long time, and let's not forget was team mates with our last and current coaches. So we just have to endure it for now (until he has his usual nightmarish showing and then he's banished to the bench for the rest of the season)


But isn't this an unfair post? Every player has a stinker now and then. It's just when it was, for example, Balo back in the day, it saw us fail to score. When it's a Bonera it means it can cost us a goal. But that applies to every defender, such as Mexes, who can be a total liability too. But you don't have a go at him when he has a game-costing stinker?

With Bonera it's a case of his pace letting him down. He's one of the most respected players at the Club - with him being named as one of the players the Ultras actually respected a number of months ago.

That said he absolutely should never play LB. I'm at a loss as to that one, but I am not horrified when he's in central defence, because, pace aside, he's really not that bad. He's particularly strong in the air and he's impressive like Zapata for last-ditch blocks.

My point is why does Bonera having a nightmare match bother you more than any other defender, goalie, midfielder or attacker having one?
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post Sep 14 2014, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 14 2014, 03:36 AM) *
Perhaps, but at R or LB?

LB. Maybe if Abate will get injured and he'll have enough trust in Armero it will change for a while, but overall I'm pretty sure Pippo gonna play Abate and DS on flanks in most games. He won't do a Seedorf on them.
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post Sep 14 2014, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 14 2014, 12:36 AM) *
Perhaps, but at R or LB?

Nah, Pippo obviously sees Abate as a the starting RB so that means DS on the left.

You know, I go to other Milan forums and they want DS on the right, and I'm like; do these people actually have eyes?? Even during the same game where he starts out on the right and then shifted to the left you can see a very clear improvement in how he plays. For me, when he's on the right, he looks like the kid that he is, unsure, a bit awkward and hesitant. On the left he's just transformed into this top player that looks like he's been doing it for years.

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 14 2014, 12:39 AM) *
But isn't this an unfair post? Every player has a stinker now and then. It's just when it was, for example, Balo back in the day, it saw us fail to score. When it's a Bonera it means it can cost us a goal. But that applies to every defender, such as Mexes, who can be a total liability too. But you don't have a go at him when he has a game-costing stinker?

With Bonera it's a case of his pace letting him down. He's one of the most respected players at the Club - with him being named as one of the players the Ultras actually respected a number of months ago.

That said he absolutely should never play LB. I'm at a loss as to that one, but I am not horrified when he's in central defence, because, pace aside, he's really not that bad. He's particularly strong in the air and he's impressive like Zapata for last-ditch blocks.

My point is why does Bonera having a nightmare match bother you more than any other defender, goalie, midfielder or attacker having one?

Mexes has never had a game where he's cost us 2 or even 3 goals in a single match, neither has Zapata (although he did have many stinkers last season), nor Abbiati, that's what I mean when I say a Bonera nightmare. Remember the Udine and Sassuolo games?

I personally am completely against him starting at CB, he's too much of a liability there not to mention he's lost whatever pace he ever had which makes him even more problematic, especially when you play him next to a slow CB (Mexes/Alex). And I really don't see how he's all that good in the air, I agree about the last-ditch tackles but in the air he's a bit of a liability imo. I remember against Celtic he was getting beaten for every aerial ball by the human mop that is Samaras.

Imo, Bonera should be nothing more than a last resort at CB. We have much better players than him for that position, so unless there's a major injury problem, he shouldn't really be getting any minutes in that area.

However, I've always thought he's done well a RB and I don't have any problem with him being the direct alternative to Abate so that we don't have to displace DS from the left should Abate be injured/suspended
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:26 PM
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Sky reports that Torres won't even be on the bench tonight as he sprained his ankle yesterday.
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:42 PM
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:43 PM
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I guess we'll be seeing Bonaventura - Menez - Honda then... Interesting top 3. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Lopez; Abate, Alex, Bonera ©, De Sciglio; Poli, De Jong, Muntari; Honda, Menez, Bonaventura.
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:45 PM
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I seriously don't get starting Bonera... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:48 PM
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bench: Abbiati, Agazzi, Albertazzi, Rami, Zapata, Armero, Essien, Van Ginkel, Saponara, Niang, Pazzini.
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post Sep 14 2014, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2014, 12:39 AM) *
It's Giacomo in English. Much less of a mouthful than Bonaventura.

Although we might have some issues with all the Jacks we'll be referencing now

In all honesty, we should stick to Bonaventura. These abbreviations and nicknames are very stupid.
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Sep 14 2014, 08:45 PM) *
I seriously don't get starting Bonera... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I'm pretty sure he will. He'll be our captain tonight and I'm fine with it.
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post Sep 14 2014, 07:02 PM
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