[CHU-LIP]

Sorry but I can't continue to argue this point, it's pretty obvious right now who the undisputed starter is and I wouldn't sacrifice results just so we can play DS in the hopes that he'll become huge in the future. And who knows maybe his growth will get stunted no matter how much time he gets on the pitch.

that is a biased assumption

it actually can work out the other way around as well. Last match the first goal, was made possible by DS's assist. And that's not the first time. And the more he plays, the better he will preform. And Abate himself have cost points. And that same Abate rarely helps us scoring goals.

You don't know playing who will help us more in the next game

[han2503]

that is a biased assumption

it actually can work out the other way around as well. Last match the first goal, was made possible by DS's assist. And that's not the first time. And the more he plays, the better he will preform. And Abate himself have cost points. And that same Abate rarely helps us scoring goals.

You don't know playing who will help us more in the next game

That's DS's first assist this season IIRC while Abate has something like 4 this season already. Sooo.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[X-Offender]

Jeez, will you cut it with this De Sciglio crap? He's not ready to be a starter yet, plain and simple. If we push him too much, he'll end up making the same end of Santon. Put too much responsibility on these youngsters and then they'll eventually choke, especially defenders. Let him grow gradually, being the reserve of an established RB, whilst taking lessons from Tassotti as well. He's just 18, after all. He has a plenty of time.

[Zed.D]

wat? no way. you are the one saying accurate things

and han is contradicting himself by saying first DS is getting enough playing time, but then in same post he says it's too soon to tell what's his work ethic is - how can that be if he is playing enough?

It's tiring to repeat ourselves... of course I didn't change my mind, that's just good a way to end the discussion. "you're right, I'm wrong, let's move on" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Jeez, will you cut it with this De Sciglio crap? He's not ready to be a starter yet, plain and simple. If we push him too much, he'll end up making the same end of Santon. Put too much responsibility on these youngsters and then they'll eventually choke, especially defenders. Let him grow gradually, being the reserve of an established RB, whilst taking lessons from Tassotti as well. He's just 18, after all. He has a plenty of time.

Last time I checked he was 20.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 22 2012, 07:27 PM

[kurtsimonw]

Abate really has to be one of the most overrated players at Milan in recent years. He can't defend, he's terrible going forward. Though nowadays with the FIFA generation, all you have to do to impress people is be fast.

[William405]

Abate really has to be one of the most overrated players at Milan in recent years. He can't defend, he's terrible going forward. Though nowadays with the FIFA generation, all you have to do to impress people is be fast.

Yeah...we don't watch Milan at all..and we think abate is good because of his Fifa rating and his blazing speed.

[Zed.D]

It's not because he's fast, it's because he shows great amount of determination and work ethic (han's favorite words when it comes to Abate). true, he's a hardworker and loves the Milan shirt, but that doesn't quite make up for his lack of true quality. again it's true that he's improved a lot over the years, but despite that he's only become a mediocre/OK player at best. back in the day, he was more or less just like Antonini...

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 22 2012, 07:40 PM

[William405]

It's because he is a solid fullback.Sure, may be he did some mistakes this season(and now everyone's on his back as it seems).But, I remember him not only saving our *** defensively several times in our scudetto winning year but actually containing C. Ronaldo etc...But, no he's TERRIBLE defender.Sure, offensively..he doesn't add up much except for his speed and well his crosses were getting a bit better(see how many assists he's given this season).

[acid911]

It's tiring to repeat ourselves... of course I didn't change my mind, that's just good a way to end the discussion. "you're right, I'm wrong, let's move on"

It's the second best way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The best way is to shoot anyone that doesn't agree with you.

[CHU-LIP]

Jeez, will you cut it with this De Sciglio crap? He's not ready to be a starter yet, plain and simple. If we push him too much, he'll end up making the same end of Santon. Put too much responsibility on these youngsters and then they'll eventually choke, especially defenders. Let him grow gradually, being the reserve of an established RB, whilst taking lessons from Tassotti as well. He's just 18, after all. He has a plenty of time.

Now I know why Zed wanted to end this. If people can't stay in a normal act when people refuse to agree...

[han2503]

It should be dropped because neither you nor zed make good points in regards to DS. He's young and out of the youth team so you guys want him to make it so we can finally say that a Primavera actually made it. Like I said, he will either be another one in the long line of over-hyped failures to come out of our system or he'll truely become great.

But the time for saying in which category DS falls under is certainly not now, and he's certainly not ready and no where near it to take Abate's place right now. And he's certainly not good enough to justify pushing for a sale

And yes kurt. Abate is the definition of a terrible player. I only like him because he's an 80+ player on Fifa. Congrats, you've figured me out. But then again if that's what I go by I should be worshipping Pazzini because he's an 82 rated player on Fifa, thus he's obviously great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

It should be dropped because neither you nor zed make good points in regards to DS.

Great start.

So great, that it's all I read.

[han2503]

Great start.

So great, that it's all I read.

Your problem not mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

When De Sciglio can contain Eto'o and Messi and C.Ronaldo on his onesie and not get shown up by Jovanovic in a CL first round, I shall consider him becoming our first place RB.

Defenders have a harder path to establishment compared to forwards. I know. Tough life. But well, that's what he is.

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah...we don't watch Milan at all..and we think abate is good because of his Fifa rating and his blazing speed.

You said it, not me. Not my problem if you or han don't understand really.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Nov 22 2012, 10:15 PM