[Fillipo Simone]

Saved me a lot of typing han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Are you serious about them having the best overall squad??? How can you really believe this?! Juve had a good first 11 of players, their attacking line being particularly average. Their strength was in their collective fighting spirit, not in their personnel.

So you think a first 11 of Buffon, Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini, Lichtsteiner, De Ceglie, Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio, Vucinic, Matri

is better than a first 11 of Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Thiago, Antonini, VB, Nocerino, Seedorf, Prince, Ibra, Robinho

???

Add to that we had more quality to pick from on the bench then Juve did. The only clear advantage they had was in the goalkeeper area and a slight one in midfield as their trio is more dynamic. But how can you say that Conte had a better overall squad to pick from? That's just pure underrating of our squad to make Allegri look good. When half our squad was out injured Allegri was still able to field a strong side on most occasions, that's how strong our squad was last season

And your stats in relation to which squad is the best makes no sense. Juve have a much better overall squad this season and an even more improved first 11 aside from the striker problem, and they've lost games. Their sheer dogged determination is what took them to that Scudetto, not a superior squad to what Allegri had at his disposal.

Also, let's not even get into the Inter debate. Mourinho left a squad who lost all their fight after that treble win. An older squad, with zero motivation playing for a coach that they did not want.

Just the fact that he had a one man winning machine in Ibra is enough to settle the debate

Don't think I could possibly disagree more. Last time had the best squad in Serie A was when Sheva was still here.

[Fillipo Simone]

Don't think I could possibly disagree more. Last time had the best squad in Serie A was when Sheva was still here.

Really? So Ancelotti couldn't possibly at fault for loosing so many scudetto's on his own, right?

[han2503]

Don't think I could possibly disagree more. Last time had the best squad in Serie A was when Sheva was still here.

You said WHAT now?

When Sheva was still in the squad Juve had an amazing squad of players as well. What you're saying is VERY debatable unlike this case when we had a very clear advantage in quality and star players

I've always agreed with you when you said that Carlo should have done more with the squad he had at his disposal, because you are 100% correct in that domestically Carlo should have won more. But your double standards in this case astound me to no end.

So Allegri is the poor poor man facing the almighty Juve with their unstopabble squad of mostly average players, but Carlo should have done more when Juve had a squad filled to the brim with stars from front to back. How does this make any sense to you whatsoever?

[kurtsimonw]

So Allegri is the poor poor man facing the almighty Juve with their unstopabble squad of mostly average players, but Carlo should have done more when Juve had a squad filled to the brim with stars from front to back. How does this make any sense to you whatsoever?

I didn't say any of this, which is why I'm stopping at "I couldn't disagree with you more".

[X-Offender]

Thiago and Ibra alone were better than all the Juve squad put together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Bluesummers]

If kaka plays today chance of him coming is zero.

If he doesn't it is still possible

[drucurl]

Thiago and Ibra alone were better than all the Juve squad put together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

+1

Plus we had Pirlo...the same player that became a "star" at juBe. I tend to ignore that guy's agenda driven opinions totally though...JuBe don't even have decent cf ffs

As regards the mercato....would have preferred getting Kaka knowing fully well his limitatations than expecting the currently zero Balotelli to become our hero that's just me though

This post has been edited by drucurl: Jan 30 2013, 08:26 PM

[han2503]

I didn't say any of this, which is why I'm stopping at "I couldn't disagree with you more".

I know you didn't say that. But I think it's safe to say that we all know each other on here quite well. And that is my interpretation of how you weigh the performance of the 2 coaches. i.e making multiple excuses for Allegri at every turn while always saying that Carlo never delivered as he should have, while taking into consideration the strength of our opponents at each particular time.

I know you disagree, but I made a very valid point imo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Also, I seriously do not understand what you see in Allegri that merits such plaudits on your part. A very average coach and an absolutely terrible man manager. And you're a person that admires Mourinho a lot. One of the best man managers we've seen in this era

Thiago and Ibra alone were better than all the Juve squad put together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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[X-Offender]

If only Allegri would play Bojan behind El Sha and Balo, we'd have a deadly attack. This 4-3-3 just doesn't sit right with me!

[han2503]

If kaka plays today chance of him coming is zero.

If he doesn't it is still possible

Is he called up?

Because if he is then imo that's the end of any hope for the deal.

Why would he be called up for a game when he's supposedly on the verge of leaving the club?

[X-Offender]

Is he called up?

Because if he is then imo that's the end of any hope for the deal.

Why would he be called up for a game when he's supposedly on the verge of leaving the club?

Yes, he's called up.

[han2503]

Yes, he's called up.

Then it's highly unlikely for anything to happen at this point imo

[X-Offender]

Then it's highly unlikely for anything to happen at this point imo

Yeah, I think so too.

[Jack Bauer]

I really hope Galliani is planning to bring another mid tomorrow because after injuries and recent moves, we are pretty thin there. If Monto is injured - we are fucked.