[Rossoneri7]

He already mentioned a few days ago that he'd follow Milan to Serie C1 if it came down to that, so you already have your answer. We're all pledged milanisti here.

bottom line is that you guys can accept what is going on with Milan because you've experienced the good of milan. You've experienced the high, you know what it feels like to be the best of the best. To have europe bow before you. You know what its like to have one of the best strikers, best defenders, best midfielders in history play on your team.


When I started watching milan it was the start of the decline, so yes I cannot be as optimistic as you guys. For me what is happening is a clear indication of mid table syndrome. That means the people who run the club are no longer motivated to make the club elite. Maybe you guys say its just a phase the club is going through and its going to be back to its best. For me I don't see it.

I see it as a sinking ship and if we continue to sink even more we will lose fans by the thousands, especially the young ones. As for me, even I have my limit. If milan want to be a club that fights for 13/14/15th every season, i'll move on as well as I have no ties to Milan nor am I italian. I chose to follow milan because of a few players I adored. Players who are no longer here because of the stupidity of a few people.

How's that for a milanisti X-Off, eh?

[Rossoneri7]

The only positions I consider to be a priority are center back and defensive midfielder. The others are not URGENT, and we can wait till 31 August to see if there's a good player to transfer for a fair amount of cash.

We have the GK's position covered, so no need to talk about it.

We have Abate who's overally decent to start in the right flank and we have a backup for him who's already as good as him and if he gets some play time in two or three years can become better than him. We have four left backs, from whom Antonini is mature enough to start (not that we had someone better in previous seasons too) and we have Didac Vila and Taiwo to replace him, who need more time with Milan before we can judge them, and we have Mesbah who isn't not good enough, but at leaste we have someone to cover if there is a need. In the center we have Mexes who has enough experience and skills to be a starter and probably own every striker in Serie A, while we transfered Arcebi who for only 6 months achieved to enter the team of the season in Serie A and has lots of potential to improve in the future too. I admit, we need another CB to be more sure.

It's clear that Ambrosini can't play in front of the decense and we need someone there, quickly. With him as a backup and Montolivo playing on the right and Nocerino on the left, we actually have a better midfield than we had last year, knowing that Montolivo is better than Aquilani and I expect to transfer someone better than Muntari or the 35 years old Bommel. We have good players to replace the first team, the likes of Flamini, Toure and Constant are great runners who have four lungs. I know there is no creativity, that hurts and kills me, cos I'm somone who loves the type of Pirlo players, but at least we have Montolivo and Cassano to create something from nothing.

In the attack, we are still the best in Serie A. We have four great strikers, but we lack a typical finisher, who's physically better than them. I trust Pato, Cassano, Robinho and El Shaarawy will do a good job and I see a very dynamic attack with them forward. I wouldn't mind somone like Matri, but in the other hand I don't consider it to be a serious matter, to go crazy and pour lots of cash on.

First team: Abbiati, Abate, Mexes, Arcebi, Antonini, Montolivo, ??? , Nocerino, Boateng, Cassano and Pato.
Second team: Amelia, De Sciglio, Bonera, ???, Didac Villa, Flamini, Amborsini, Toure, Emanuelson, El Shaarawy, Robinho.
Others: Gabriel, Yepes, Taiwo, Mesbah, Constant, Valoti, Ganz.

EDIT:

I forgot to add, I think that this team is strong enough to get us to the 3rd place and get over this crysis, if Allegri forgets about ChampionsLeague and concentrates on Serie A.

A very rational post, I like and believe we are three or four signings away from competing again (given the team as is). Sure we miss stars like Ibra, Silva, Kaka, Seedorf, etc ..

As MF said, we will be focusing on a younger team, building the foundations of the team again. We can not go on operating the way we used to - We will need Juve, inter and Roma in contention for Europe. Italy looses a lot with just three seats for the CL. Hence lesser funds to Serie A's most competitive teams. A younger team for us, build a new core and start targeting titles two/three seasons down the line .. This is the most difficult test Milan will have to face under the Berlusconi era, that is for sure.

[X-Offender]

How's that for a milanisti X-Off, eh?

Hm, I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere. Maybe it wasn't Blue, oops. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Zed.D]

Since when is it our business to what degree someone supports a team? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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As for Galliani, he acts and talks like a girl who's having her period these days. I think something is bothering him. seeing Milan in this state, maybe. he knows we will struggle in the league for a top 3 finish and get humiliated in the CL.

[drucurl]

bottom line is that you guys can accept what is going on with Milan because you've experienced the good of milan. You've experienced the high, you know what it feels like to be the best of the best. To have europe bow before you. You know what its like to have one of the best strikers, best defenders, best midfielders in history play on your team.


When I started watching milan it was the start of the decline, so yes I cannot be as optimistic as you guys. For me what is happening is a clear indication of mid table syndrome. That means the people who run the club are no longer motivated to make the club elite. Maybe you guys say its just a phase the club is going through and its going to be back to its best. For me I don't see it.

I see it as a sinking ship and if we continue to sink even more we will lose fans by the thousands, especially the young ones. As for me, even I have my limit. If milan want to be a club that fights for 13/14/15th every season, i'll move on as well as I have no ties to Milan nor am I italian. I chose to follow milan because of a few players I adored. Players who are no longer here because of the stupidity of a few people.

Well said....I wouldn't even label you a gloryhunter either....if everything you know to be Milan or the club you've come to know and love has changed then all you'd be holding on to are random colours that signify an organization you feel nothing for....I felt this way when Kaka left....because it effectively meant the "family atmosphere" thing was coming to an end.

The way the Curva treated Maldini and the way supposed Milan fans boo Seedorf were just more nails in the coffin. But since then I've become a stubborn c**t and it's going to take (a little) more to throw me off the rossonero bus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[nuh]

I think things are being over-exaggerated here, I mean yes it isn't nice too see your best players leave at one time, but the only thing that bothers me about their sale is that Galliani lied to us. If Galliani were to say from the start that we are having money problems and we have/need to sell them, then I wouldn't mind them leaving, I've honestly seen greater players wear the Red and Black Jersey, and we've been fine without them, the only thing that disappoints me is the way things went down, after denying for so long.
Thats it though, other than that, screw them, we are A.C. Milan. Sure we probably will struggle this season, but what team doesn't face tough times? Even Barcelona endured some tough times before having players like Ronaldinho and Messi.
The situation we are in is a great test to see the true milan supporters, we shouldn't be criticizing, we shouldn't be protesting, we should be filling the stadium whether we are winning or losing, its that simple.
Looking at our squad, call me delusional or call me optimistic, I feel we've got a decent team as Rossoneri 7 said, we are 3 or 4 players away from having a good team competing for the Champions League or the league, I think what is really needed is a CB, DM and a striker anything else would be a bonus.

I hope you guys don't take offense to this its just how i feel to be honest.

This post has been edited by nuh: Jul 21 2012, 10:44 PM

[Zed.D]

There's a big difference between Milan post-Sheva and post-Kaka and Milan post-Silva & Ibra. when the former two left, we still had many champions, we still had great or at least decent teams, they added something special but without them we could still go on. whether some of us like it or not, right now Milan is a mediocre team that lacks quality in many positions and I'm afraid our low budget won't be enough to cover it all.

I guess you'll see the difference when we play on a weekly basis in Serie A and, I hate to remind myself of it, the CL.

[nuh]

There's a big difference between Milan post-Sheva and post-Kaka and Milan post-Silva & Ibra. when the former two left, we still had many champions, we still had great or at least decent teams, they added something special but without them we could still go on. whether some of us like it or not, right now Milan is a mediocre team that lacks quality in many positions and I'm afraid our low budget won't be enough to cover it all.

I guess you'll see the difference when we play on a weekly basis in Serie A and, I hate to remind myself of it, the CL.

Actually i disagree, I feel that we were in a worse situation when Kaka' left. A) We lost our best player. B ) We lost our captain and one of our best defenders that season. C) We lost our coach, who was coaching us for 8 years. D) We got a coach who didn't know what he was doing.
I remember things looked bleak for us, we didn't fix the attack problem that we had at the time, Gattuso, Pirlo and Ambrosini were starting to offer us nothing, Seedorf was the only one that was actually doing something for us, from the old guard. Nesta missed a whole season due to injury and many people were questioning his fitness issues and whether he would be able to play, no one knew if Thiago Silva would become this good, he was unknown to us. We didn't have decent fullbacks at the time either, apart from Zambrotta, we didn't know how good or how bad antonini was cuz he missed a huge chunk of his first season due to injury, we didn't know how good or how bad abate was. Finally Ronaldinho was the big question, he had an awful first season with milan, no one thought he would be able to replace Kaka'.
One other thing was that, the team was old!
At least now we could see that the team is getting younger, yes there are a few questions to be answered but if you deeply look at it, we still have; Mexes who's okay, Abate who's decent and I think he hasn't yet met his potential, Boateng, Nocerino, Montolivio (who I'm a big fan of), Robinho who like Ronaldinho when he sets his mind to it he could be the best player on the pitch, Pato and Cassano
My only worry is the 3 or 4 players we sign, and injuries.
Other than that, we are in a much better position than when Kaka' left us.

This post has been edited by nuh: Jul 21 2012, 11:17 PM

[Bluesummers]

Very nice .. Will you be going down with it? Or will you jump ship?

How's that for a milanisti X-Off, eh?

go **** yourself.

[maldini03]

Personally I feel that Montolivo is criminially underrated... both because he plays in Italy, and the way in which he does his buisness (very quiet, with good yet not flashy passing). I think his true colors were shown at the Euro where he was one of the best midfielders of the tournament. I am hoping for a real breakout from him.

[Rossoneri7]

go **** yourself.

Chill out blue .. I was replying to X-Off, and it wasn't meant to provoke you as those were your own words.

Nevertheless, thank you for the kind words.

[Bluesummers]

Chill out blue .. I was replying to X-Off, and it wasn't meant to provoke you as those were your own words.

Nevertheless, thank you for the kind words.

haha are you serious? You've been doing nothing but provoking me and others throughout this month with your "oh milan is burning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) its so wonderful !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) "

What you think we should just be happy that the club makes poor managerial decisions and we pay the price year after year? Or should I be a sheep like you and just support berlusconi even if he doesn't give 2 sh*ts about Milan anymore



and just fyi if i wasn't a hardcore milanista, i wouldn't have spent the hours upon hours of my time researching the club from top to bottom, or suscribing to the channels that play Milan games (which cost alot here in canada),

or spend the hours that I have researching and posting news in this forum so that my fellow members here that I care about will have the most up to date market information about our great club.


So once again, go **** yourself.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 22 2012, 06:05 AM

[milanbuf88]

haha are you serious? You've been doing nothing but provoking me and others throughout this month with your "oh milan is burning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) its so wonderful !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) "

What you think we should just be happy that the club makes poor managerial decisions and we pay the price year after year? Or should I be a sheep like you and just support berlusconi even if he doesn't give 2 sh*ts about Milan anymore



and just fyi if i wasn't a hardcore milanista, i wouldn't have spent the hours upon hours of my time researching the club from top to bottom, or suscribing to the channels that play Milan games (which cost alot here in canada),

or spend the hours that I have researching and posting news in this forum so that my fellow members here that I care about will have the most up to date market information about our great club.


So once again, go **** yourself.

Well said blue. I find the smug attitude R7 has taken on recently to be annoying at best. Like he is trying to out fan everyone else by sticking with the team no matter what. Just ignore his trolling and keep doing what you do. Trust me, your work assembling transfer market info is very appreciated and no one else doubts your loyalties.

[Bluesummers]

News:


-TASCI: "If there's any team that is interested on me, they must talk directly with Stuttgart."


-We have contact Arsene Wenger about Bendtnder. Wenger has said that he's willing to negotiate.



-We are out of the Van Persie deal. He has said that he wants to be paid around 12m per season.



-Several investors from the middle east and asia have contacted us about buying shares. Finivest has rejected the notion of foreign investors in the past regarding AC Milan. But the media believes that the company no longer wishes to support milan as they have their own financial troubles. Marina Berlusconi the chair of Finivest has never agreed with Silvio pumping so much company into milan in the past.





mn/cm/tmw/tutto/goal

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 22 2012, 06:28 AM

[Bluesummers]

Well said blue. I find the smug attitude R7 has taken on recently to be annoying at best. Like he is trying to out fan everyone else by sticking with the team no matter what. Just ignore his trolling and keep doing what you do. Trust me, your work assembling transfer market info is very appreciated and no one else doubts your loyalties.

thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)