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Jun 13 2012, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 13 2012, 04:48 PM)  This is basically another Kaka to City bullshit, and I find it incredibly pathetic; " SILVIO, PLEASE, WE BEG OF YOU!" coupled with a "good-heart" picture of him (IMG: style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) This just gets more and more depressing. what's happened to this club? QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 13 2012, 05:10 PM)  Silva himself was, tbh, a 'random Brazilian' when we signed him. And he turned out world class, and that's not a given. that's why we should avoid going down that road again. too much of a gamble. And can we sign this Dede dude for the same amount we signed Silva, only 10 million? I bet his owners have other ideas. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 13 2012, 05:51 PM)  by the looks of it Zed could be right as it is being that that the final decison will depend on Silvio Well, so far it's gone exactly as I'd thought. we now only need Silvio to block it so we can have Silva for another season or so. but I'm afraid his departure is inevitable. rich teams will come knocking for him again and [to paraphrase Galliani] "we cannot afford to miss out on so much money"!
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Jun 13 2012, 02:44 PM
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There is a philospohical question in all of this...would leaving now make one a gloryhunter? At the absolute core of it that VAST majority of us are actually glory hunters. When you break down the term glory - success ; hunter - searcher. But I contend that like me, most of us here aren't particularly upset about our lack of success. We have been spoiled to 2 CL's in the previous decade and a scudetto last year. That more than satisfies me personally. But GLORY is not the reason I decided to plant my roots as a rossonero in 2002. I became a fan for the ATMOSPHERE and family mentality here. If you read any of my posts here or at the first forum I ever joined (soccerage (now goal.com) and milanmania) you would see that I didn't care too much about our aging squad. Back in 2002 I was impressed about the way we treated Albertini (as pointed out to me by another Milan fan), the family atmosphere and the commitment to accacking football, breaking any stereotype of Calcio teams. However now this Milan doesn't seem like anything I used to support back in '02. The gentlemanly cameraderie has been replaced by iBra's over the top aggression (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and our philosophies of play have been butchered by $h!tlegri. But all fingers should be aimed at Berlusconi, who decidely has no real interest in us anymore and instead of doing the honourable and graceful and most wise thing i.e sell the club seems intent on dragging us to the hell that he's going to. It sort of puzzles me in that Milan can no longer give him the popularity or the political mileage that he once had and if indeed they are telling the truth about losses, is actually a financial liability. Surely this much pride can't exist to the point where it is now a consuming and snowballling cancer which can be gracefully removed with the aforementioned pride kept intact. Selling Silva doesn't bother me as $heva or Kaka's departure. Truth be told, he didn't usher in the successes that these guys got us. But his sale after the now laughable assurances from Galliani makes me wonder if we have any sporting ambition whatsoever. Granted this is all against the backdrop of harsh economic times throughout Europe....but if it's one thing my 29 years on this planet has taught me is that the rich are always spared from the worst of these things......If that weren't the case, France's 70% tax would have factored somewhere into this whole equation. It's not a case of anyone asking him to go crazy and re-create the all star squads we had of yesteryear. That would be insensitive to the jobless and economically oppressed.....especially given that stadium tickets would most likely increase, which is always undesirable....With this present team...all we needed was a leftback and ONE f**king good midfielder and we were set to run with the rest of them. Personally it's going to take a lot more for me to turn my back on Milan. But even Maldini is reduced to a howling voice in the wind....now resorting to the uncharacteristically low tactic of appealing to Berlu's ubiquitous ego and insisting that Milan is showing weakness by the sale. If one left now he could hardly be accused of hunting glory....just peace of mind I suppose
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Jun 13 2012, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Jun 13 2012, 06:44 PM)  There is a philospohical question in all of this...would leaving now make one a gloryhunter? At the absolute core of it that VAST majority of us are actually glory hunters. When you break down the term glory - success ; hunter - searcher.
But I contend that like me, most of us here aren't particularly upset about our lack of success. We have been spoiled to 2 CL's in the previous decade and a scudetto last year. That more than satisfies me personally. But GLORY is not the reason I decided to plant my roots as a rossonero in 2002. I became a fan for the ATMOSPHERE and family mentality here. If you read any of my posts here or at the first forum I ever joined (soccerage (now goal.com) and milanmania) you would see that I didn't care too much about our aging squad. Back in 2002 I was impressed about the way we treated Albertini (as pointed out to me by another Milan fan), the family atmosphere and the commitment to accacking football, breaking any stereotype of Calcio teams.
However now this Milan doesn't seem like anything I used to support back in '02. The gentlemanly cameraderie has been replaced by iBra's over the top aggression and our philosophies of play have been butchered by $h!tlegri. But all fingers should be aimed at Berlusconi, who decidely has no real interest in us anymore and instead of doing the honourable and graceful and most wise thing i.e sell the club seems intent on dragging us to the hell that he's going to.
It sort of puzzles me in that Milan can no longer give him the popularity or the political mileage that he once had and if indeed they are telling the truth about losses, is actually a financial liability. Surely this much pride can't exist to the point where it is now a consuming and snowballling cancer which can be gracefully removed with the aforementioned pride kept intact.
Selling Silva doesn't bother me as $heva or Kaka's departure. Truth be told, he didn't usher in the successes that these guys got us. But his sale after the now laughable assurances from Galliani makes me wonder if we have any sporting ambition whatsoever. Granted this is all against the backdrop of harsh economic times throughout Europe....but if it's one thing my 29 years on this planet has taught me is that the rich are always spared from the worst of these things......If that weren't the case, France's 70% tax would have factored somewhere into this whole equation.
It's not a case of anyone asking him to go crazy and re-create the all star squads we had of yesteryear. That would be insensitive to the jobless and economically oppressed.....especially given that stadium tickets would most likely increase, which is always undesirable....With this present team...all we needed was a leftback and ONE f**king good midfielder and we were set to run with the rest of them.
Personally it's going to take a lot more for me to turn my back on Milan. But even Maldini is reduced to a howling voice in the wind....now resorting to the uncharacteristically low tactic of appealing to Berlu's ubiquitous ego and insisting that Milan is showing weakness by the sale. If one left now he could hardly be accused of hunting glory....just peace of mind I suppose Great post, man. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Greatest I've read in quite a while here!
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Jun 13 2012, 04:23 PM
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This Silva thing could turn out to be the usual gimmick played by our management that zeddie has been talking about.
Given the expected revolt from the fans and players alike should Silva be sold, I think the management won't sell him at the end of the day.
The talk about clearing depts doesn't make much sense, because we all know that we'll be faced with the next problem come next year and the one after that. If Silvio wants to sell up, the new guys coming in would have to be like what City and PSG have. An endless amount of funds.
Best option would be for Silvio to sell at least 50% of the company at this point. Wouldn't that mean that the losses are shared equally among the parties? I'm no financial connoisseur, but surely there are more solutions that can be taken rather than selling our last real jewel. It's only a quick fix for this summer anyway, it's not something that would wipe out all our problems indefinately
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Jun 13 2012, 04:52 PM
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Like I said, the usual "pull the rug from under you BS" from the management
Silva will be our new signing this summer so we better all be happy that we managed to keep him if no one else comes in. Such a BS tactic. It looks like we're about to burn more bridges with clubs like we did with City.
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Jun 13 2012, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 13 2012, 10:29 AM)  Problem is it's full of immature insults against those he dislikes. If he makes any good points, they're undermined by really childish namecalling. Slurs? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Wow Dude just say your piece and get on with it! You offered nothing but criticism of me. Instead of looking down on me from your most elevated and virtuous perch, it would be more constructive to offer an actual opinion if you are capable of so doing. I am exhausted most dealing with your type...always searching for something insignificant to be (butt) hurt about, while the LARGER ISSUES loom menacingly (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Telling another poster who I’m friends with, not to like my contribution because it contains my intentionally childish names is about as pathetic as it gets….meanwhile Milan is going to the dogs (apologies in advance for any dogs I may have offended) Point form summary: iBra = VIOLENT, overrated mercenary who demands all teams be built to suit him Response : “oh dru why do you have to call him silly names” (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) $h!tlegri = No respect for our senators, traditions, ideals, philosophy Response: “what childish immature names” (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dramaqueensmil.gif) Grow a pair or block me. Or you could take the most butt hurt route of all and report me as your type seems to relish (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) You are only now seeing my words of Pirlo coming to pass because you are so taken up by my playful silly (injected mainly for my mischievous sens of humor) comments which is another tragedy and speaks volumes about your understanding.
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