[han2503]

Wait, you seriously think it's doable?

Yes it's very much doable considering the wages we just off loaded from this season's bill and the significantly lower ones Ambro and Flamini will receive if they re-negotiate a new one (Please refer to my post above for a more detailed view (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

Also, we need to offload at least one of the runners from that midfield. I vote Muntari!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[William405]

Francesco Acerbi has admitted that he hopes to complete his expected move from Chievo to Milan this summer.

The centre-back, co-owned with Genoa, has been paired with the Diavolo and his agent was spotted at Milan HQ earlier today.

“I hope to join Milan,” the 23-year-old told TMW. “It would be a dream come true. I’m just waiting for my agent to tell me to sign.

“I’m happy because Milan are a really strong team, with many great champions. Such interest can only be pleasing.

“Over the past few months I have shown that I am a Serie A player and, to be honest, even I didn’t think I could end up at Milan.”

[Fillipo Simone]

So with Inzaghi he's unfair when he gives him 10 minutes late un but when he does that to Aqui it's a fair chance... Double standards right there.

Double standards? You must be joking! And you think he did a "Pippo" on Aquilani?
Aquilani started against Novara, he came in and played 30 minutes against Siena, 17 against Bologna, 35 against Fiorentina. Still wanna say it's the same?

Muntari is not lazy? Have you ever seen him ambling around on the pitch. Someone makes a pass to him and instead of running for it he waits and we lose the ball. Why do you think he frustrates the sh!t out of me? Becuase I don't think he's good looking enough to be on this team? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The only time he isn't lazy is when there's an opportunity to chop someone's leg off.

I won't discuss Muntari here. I have a very low opinion on him, but anyway.

And give me the name of one player in the mold of Aqui, Pirlo, Monto, Dinho, Sahin, Modric, etc, etc, etc. That are not lazy by trade. They're not made to run, or to hustle about the pitch. You're comparing Aqui to players who are labelled by trade as runners, box-to-box guys, destroyers. You think Monto or Ganso or Sahin will run more just for the sake of it? No f@cking chance.

I'm not speaking about running, I'm speaking about effort. No matter if you're a fullback or CM or AM - I expect someone who is clearly the better player (Aquilani compared to Muntari) to show more effort when he looses his place. Aquilani showed zero. I don't care how long he was injured, IMO a truly good player would have done more.

Oh, you're talking about the Real Madrid Kaka... Well I was talking about the Kaka at Milan and he was mostly a ryhtm players when he was here. Boateng is mostly an explosive player. In a the previous thread I was about to list you the players I thought could come late into the game and change it. I was going to mention Pippo, Trezeguet and mainly Boateng. Because he doesn't center his game on any form of rythm or flow, he's erratic. He can be great at times, and then mess up a simply touch to stop the movement of the ball, that's just the way Boateng is.

Again, I know the players characteristics. This is getting ridiculous; I can go on naming examples for the whole night and you can put them aside one by one because they're different somehow. There is no Aquilani double (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
But the bottom line is, all considered, his entrences were pretty weak and his effort overall was disappointing. The guy isn't bad, but in this whole season there wasn't but one match he played balanced and good from minute one till the end. And that counts for me.

[han2503]

So far Strootman seems most likely to join us, so assuming he will join us...

And I read that Sahin wants to stay with Real Madrid, it's his dream club anyway...

And someone who knows Brazil football and Ganso very well, don't think Ganso is a CM, but an AM, but with Cassano and Ibrahimovic as our attacking duo, we rather need a movement with pace AM like Boateng then yet another playmaking player in our attackin trio, creativity needs to be added in the so called midfield trio...

Hernanes rumours have been there too, though he'd be kinda expensive, but if a man can dream...

I hope for a midfield trio existing of Hernanes, Montolivo and Strootman. All players are good with the ball, and all players can defend, especially Strootman, and all are capable of attacking as well, and it's not even slow, so it has pretty much everything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Great news about Strootman!

As for Ganso, when I've watched vides of him, he usually always seems to start plays from deep, he certainly doesn't look like an AM to me

[CHU-LIP]

Great news about Strootman!

As for Ganso, when I've watched vides of him, he usually always seems to start plays from deep, he certainly doesn't look like an AM to me

Great news that the rumours are very hopeful (unlike for other targets), but nothing is sure yet.

Shame I can't really have an outspoken opinion on Ganso. At least if we will sign him and play LCM, we better have defensively strong midfielders, which makes Strootman an ideal add. If we actualy sign him, then for sure Van Bommel made it possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[han2503]

Double standards? You must be joking! And you think he did a "Pippo" on Aquilani?
Aquilani started against Novara, he came in and played 30 minutes against Siena, 17 against Bologna, 35 against Fiorentina. Still wanna say it's the same?

Those are just 3 games you mentioned. There were games were he got less. Sure it's not the same as Pippo, but if we want to go back to square one of this conversation. You can't compare the 2. Pippo is on his last breath. He was brought on in the Coppa against Juve and was given ample time but got injured 10 minutes into it. And as I previously said, you can't compare a midfielder to a poacher. Aquilani should have at least been given 2 back to back starts ahead of Muntari. That would have been a far more realistic stage to judge him on.

I'm not speaking about running, I'm speaking about effort. No matter if you're a fullback or CM or AM - I expect someone who is clearly the better player (Aquilani compared to Muntari) to show more effort when he looses his place. Aquilani showed zero. I don't care how long he was injured, IMO a truly good player would have done more.

I wasn't talking about just the simple act of running either. When have you ever seen Pirlo with the crazy face of determination that a player like Rino sports? Same can be said of all the others I mention. I can probably count the amount of truely creative players who aren't lazy by nature on one hand, and still have fingers left over.

Again, I know the players characteristics. This is getting ridiculous; I can go on naming examples for the whole night and you can put them aside one by one because they're different somehow. There is no Aquilani double (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
But the bottom line is, all considered, his entrences were pretty weak and his effort overall was disappointing. The guy isn't bad, but in this whole season there wasn't but one match he played balanced and good from minute one till the end. And that counts for me.

The problem was because you compared a pure poacher to a creative CM.

I agree that he was simply bland when he entered into the games after his injuries. I never contradicted that. But still, I feel that he wasn't given the proper environment to get back into the swing of things. At least a couple of consecutive matches. If they were offorded to Muntari they could have been afforded to Aqui.

But than again, this discussion could all be reduced to the simple sentence written by x-off. He wasn't given the starts so that we wouldn't be forced to buy him...

[han2503]

Great news that the rumours are very hopeful (unlike for other targets), but nothing is sure yet.

Shame I can't really have an outspoken opinion on Ganso. At least if we will sign him and play LCM, we better have defensively strong midfielders, which makes Strootman an ideal add. If we actualy sign him, then for sure Van Bommel made it possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Do you know if there's a lot of talk in the Dutch papers about his move. Because from what I'm currently seeing, rumours are still very tentative.

[CHU-LIP]

Do you know if there's a lot of talk in the Dutch papers about his move. Because from what I'm currently seeing, rumours are still very tentative.

No, only that Milan wants him and so (internet) when it comes to Dutch rumours, I looked for more but unfortunality not. So let's not get too excited! Seeing Real Madrid showing interest, rumours, are not fun to see though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Now I've seen somewhere posting a rumour that we are interested in Kevin Strootman and Adam Maher. Ooh, Maher would be awesome as well. 18 year old AM, talent of the season in Dutch league. Just a random rumour though...

[X-Offender]

Doesn't Ganso play in the midfield trio for Brazil in their 4-3-3 formation? I agree with han, from what I've also seen, Ganso seems more like a deep-lying playmaker than a pure trequartista.

Oh, and I read about the Maher rumors, as well. You reckon he'd be worth signing, CHU?

[Dracoris]

Ganso is a service man....and an excellent one at that. Ganso passing to the likes of a 6'5 Ibra is a scentillating thing to think about.

[CHU-LIP]

Doesn't Ganso play in the midfield trio for Brazil in their 4-3-3 formation? I agree with han, from what I've also seen, Ganso seems more like a deep-lying playmaker than a pure trequartista.

Oh, and I read about the Maher rumors, as well. You reckon he'd be worth signing, CHU?

midfield trio in 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 are different, but if we sign him, I hope you guys are right

Maher could really be a next big thing. Long term he may be the best player to sign in NL. Let's say he's the next Eriksen. And assuming Maher will be a lot cheaper... and not just me, everyone is excited about this kid. You know NL has many excellent AM's but yet he is in Euro squad, and survived the first round of eliminations as well...

[CrazyMilanFan]

so man city and barca want silva... I am afraid we could be losing him beacuse it is said that gallaini wants 50 million which City would offer and probably barca as well ( who have already offered 40m)..

[Rossoneri7]

Arguing for the sake of arguing?

Those players all requested certain amounts. Yes it was the club that gave them the contract but you better be sure that they had requests. Rino was being offered millions to put his name on a shirt in Russia, Seedorf was being offered big contracts in Brazil, etc. Don't think that they didn't have any personal demands of their own.

Both parties are at fault. When a player like Seedorf still expects to still be a starter and than 95% of the time walks onto the pitch half @ssed, playing like sh!t without an ounce of drive in him, than expect a certain amount of criticism. I don't get how past achievments make these players untouchable, especially when they earn the amount of money they do

And now its about their wages (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Of course they have demands, its the club that negotiated with them, and kept them.

No one is at fault, why are you so eager to make this look as bad as you want it to?

And is the club paying the wages out of your pocket that you are so pissed off about it? I don't get it.

Look the club renewed with these players, not the players forcing the club to renew at 4M a season or whatever amount you like ... Whats the point of blaming Seedorf when he was 'OFFERED' a contract renewal by 'EXPERTS' who made Milan what it is today.


Feels like I'm constantly repeating myself.

[CHU-LIP]

so man city and barca want silva... I am afraid we could be losing him beacuse it is said that gallaini wants 50 million which City would offer and probably barca as well ( who have already offered 40m)..

Thiago Silva, Kompany

Two best defenders in the world together? Kompany is awesome, imagine him with Thiago Silva rather than Lescott...

But I am sure Silva would like City? I'm afraid he goes to Spain... oh please why is this happening, maybe

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: May 22 2012, 12:31 PM

[il_diavolo_mtl]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/...elf-to-ac-milan

Dafuq?