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> Serie A - Week 2 - Milan - Lazio, Date: 09/09/11 Time: 20:45 CET

 
Fillipo Simone
post Sep 6 2011, 04:22 PM
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But come on Ambro is no box-to-box, have we forgotten him trying to bomb forward from the left and then getting stuck so he either shoots the ball at the stands or crosses to the other side of the pitch.

Haha, you are right, but look:

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But come on Flamini is no box-to-box, have we forgotten him trying to bomb forward from the left and then getting stuck so he either shoots the ball at the stands or crosses to the other side of the pitch.

You see? I think it suits perfectly as well. Or do you wanna tell me Flamini's shot and cross are deadlier?

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As for Flamini, I know what his flaws are, and he's by no means a favourite of mine, I just think he gets slagged a lot here, and it's mostly down to the money he earns, so I feel compelled to defend him. It's not like I'm going to cry if he leaves next season, I just think he'd be a good squad player to keep at a much lower wage of course. Certainly better then giving either Rino or Ambro another extension

Honestly, I don't think it's because of the payrolls. Why should we care so much, it isn't our money? It's you and me and a few others that know how much he earns. But many people dislike him pecause of his poor footballing skills, his inconisistency and his limitations. He simply put isn't up to it; Ambro at his best tops Flamini without any question.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 04:22 PM) *
Haha, you are right, but look:


You see? I think it suits perfectly as well. Or do you wanna tell me Flamini's shot and cross are deadlier?

Nope, but I never said otherwise. Neither one of them should be doing such a task imo. They're DMs, win the ball, pass it to someone who can actually do something with it. That's the policy they should live by. Rino imo used to do this perfectly and imo what made him and Pirlo so great for both us and the NT.

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Honestly, I don't think it's because of the payrolls. Why should we care so much, it isn't our money? It's you and me and a few others that know how much he earns. But many people dislike him pecause of his poor footballing skills, his inconisistency and his limitations. He simply put isn't up to it; Ambro at his best tops Flamini without any question.

Most are aware of what he earns because it was widely reported that we gave him a huge contract due to the interest from a lot of other clubs. And I think most are put off by it because the club usually makes a big deal of the money issue. So player like Flamini, Rino, Ambro, Dida back in the day; these players are all making huge income and yet offer very little to the club. Dida for example was on something like 4m for his last 5 years where he spent at least 2 full seasons of those on the bench. I think this irks most fans. They know we're not Man City or Real, we can't afford to pay these kinds of players such big wages because everyone knows that it will jeopardize a potential signing of a new and better player.

So for me, Flamini should have had his contract reviewed at least 2 seasons ago, offer him a longer deal bvut for much less, and come this summer that is what should be done, if he doesn't accept it, then good luck to him but don't let the door hit you on the way out
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:52 PM
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Naah, I can't agree with you on that. Maybe the contract thing rings in their background, but I really think people don't rate his footballing skills. Dida, Ambro and some others at least had one or two great seasons with us, but this guy never showed anything remotely special.
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post Sep 6 2011, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 03:52 PM) *
Naah, I can't agree with you on that. Maybe the contract thing rings in their background, but I really think people don't rate his footballing skills. Dida, Ambro and some others at least had one or two great seasons with us, but this guy never showed anything remotely special.

A player shoul only be rewarded for those years though. Dida was given a long extension when he'd already started to make blunder after blunder.

Ambro has always been a loyal servant to this club and whatever he earned before was deserved, but atm, he shouldn't earn anymore then 2m. For now, no one knows exactly how much he got in his new deal. But I'm inklined to believe that it's around 3, and imo, given the current financial situation, we shouldn't be giving rotation players, no matter their history, that kind of money.

As for Flamini, most fans I know still rate him above the current Rino or Ambro, no matter how limited his footballing skills are, they just get peeved that he's earning the kind of money he is, especially when the club cheaps out of offering a good sum for players like Montolivo this summer.
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post Sep 6 2011, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 05:52 PM) *
Naah, I can't agree with you on that. Maybe the contract thing rings in their background, but I really think people don't rate his footballing skills. Dida, Ambro and some others at least had one or two great seasons with us, but this guy never showed anything remotely special.


That's true. However, I must say that last season he was quite good. Definitely his best season since he joined us.

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Ambro has always been a loyal servant to this club and whatever he earned before was deserved, but atm, he shouldn't earn anymore then 2m. For now, no one knows exactly how much he got in his new deal. But I'm inklined to believe that it's around 3, and imo, given the current financial situation, we shouldn't be giving rotation players, no matter their history, that kind of money.


Nah, I don't think it's higher than €2 million.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 6 2011, 04:45 PM) *
That's true. However, I must say that last season he was quite good. Definitely his best season since he joined us.



Nah, I don't think it's higher than €2 million.

We'll see, Rino is on 3m so....
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It ll be intresting to see what frame of mind the squad is psychologically after this game. If Milan win, no doubt its a great way to start the season and it ll raise confidence but that could easily turn into 'sluggishness' at the nou camp. I hope we win this game but play with real urgency in the nou camp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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AC Milan have scored in their first league game of the season in every campaign since 1986/87, when they lost 1-0 to Ascoli.

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post Sep 8 2011, 06:11 AM
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Hmm...Milan have never beaten Lazio with Ibra in the team.

I think this will be a draw or a loss.
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post Sep 8 2011, 08:09 AM
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AC Milan are unbeaten in the last 26 league games vs Lazio; the Biancocelesti’s last win came back in 1998 (2-1).
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post Sep 8 2011, 12:37 PM
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Naah, this is a much much more competitive Lazio. It won't be that easy.
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