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post Sep 29 2011, 07:59 PM
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Udinese's backups draw Celtic in the worst reffed game i do believe i have ever seen. aside from the Pen at the end for Udine, The ref was Celtic's 12th man... All's well that ends well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

In news me and Kurt can cuss about, Maribor almost beat Birmingham, but lost their lead...

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post Sep 29 2011, 09:02 PM
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Why do clubs rate the Europa League that low? I mean, most of the teams are starting with reserve squads, which shows how much they care?
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post Sep 29 2011, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 29 2011, 10:02 PM) *
Why do clubs rate the Europa League that low? I mean, most of the teams are starting with reserve squads, which shows how much they care?


I think only Italian teams play with their reserves.
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post Sep 29 2011, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 29 2011, 10:56 PM) *
I think only Italian teams play with their reserves.

Naah - I watched Tottenham play a B or even C side, now I watched PSG do almost the same...
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post Sep 29 2011, 10:13 PM
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Maribor should be ashamed.
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post Sep 30 2011, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2011, 06:02 AM) *
Why do clubs rate the Europa League that low? I mean, most of the teams are starting with reserve squads, which shows how much they care?

thats funny considering their yearly objective in the domestic league is to reach europe...
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post Sep 30 2011, 12:51 PM
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I think you spelled McLeish wrong. And it's Premier League, not Premiership. At least he can admit they're making up the numbers and are irrelevant in the EPL.
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Sep 29 2011, 07:59 PM) *
Udinese's backups draw Celtic in the worst reffed game i do believe i have ever seen. aside from the Pen at the end for Udine, The ref was Celtic's 12th man... All's well that ends well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .


Worst reffed match was the Scotland Czech Rep match. Truly abysmal. Anyway, Celtic have picked up one more point than I thought they would.

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In news me and Kurt can cuss about, Maribor almost beat Birmingham, but lost their lead...


That's the Maribor side Rangers couldn't beat.
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 29 2011, 09:02 PM) *
Why do clubs rate the Europa League that low? I mean, most of the teams are starting with reserve squads, which shows how much they care?


Because it's a load of shite? It's truly the bowels of European football. Any tournament with a country's second tier playing in it (Birmingham) plus with shite like Maribor and Malmo is not exactly the creme de la creme.

Udinese and others would rather qualify for the CL by prioritising Serie A than deploy a strong team for this garbage cup.
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:56 PM
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Teams who don't take it seriously generally aren't good enough anyway.

Villa got to the KOs a few years back and put out a bunch of kids. We went out to CSKA who fielded the likes of Akinfeev, Dzagoev, Krasic, Vagner Love et al. We were never good enough to win the thing.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time a bad team won it, Parma maybe? The rest were pretty damn good.
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post Sep 30 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 30 2011, 03:56 PM) *
Teams who don't take it seriously generally aren't good enough anyway.

That's not true. The Italian sides are good enough to even win the whole damn thing.

Though a side like Porto last season is better, but that's an exception.

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post Sep 30 2011, 03:22 PM
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I dunno, Porto ('03), Valencia ('04), CSKA ('05) Sevilla ('06/'07) and Atletico ('10) were very good teams and it's not so easy to say that the only reason Italian clubs didn't win it is because they didn't try. even if they did try, they probably wouldn't have beaten these sides.
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:06 PM
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I meant Porto is one exception during one tournament. Italian sides should be able to reach the finals, and who knows even win a time. Now they are not even (or rarely?) in the QF's or so for how long?
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post Oct 1 2011, 10:37 AM
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Because it's a load of shite? It's truly the bowels of European football. Any tournament with a country's second tier playing in it (Birmingham) plus with shite like Maribor and Malmo is not exactly the creme de la creme.

I wouldn't go so far...why is this Maribor team been constantly insulted? What did they do wrong?
The UEFA Cup was full of Shellbournes and Maribors, but never then less presented a respectful tournament most of the teams tried to go as far as they can. I think a big stupidity was inventing the league system. Small clubs cannot play the 2 match rhythm (no depth) as clubs like Milan or Madrid can, and that's a part of the problem.

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I meant Porto is one exception during one tournament. Italian sides should be able to reach the finals, and who knows even win a time. Now they are not even (or rarely?) in the QF's or so for how long?

Why Porto as an exception? The other winning team were also pretty good like Kurt said.

I don't think it's just not trying. I think they mostly aren't on level to be honest.
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post Oct 1 2011, 11:24 AM
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I don't agree with this they are not trying business, we could all make that excuse. England don't try in World Cup's, Milan don't try in CL etc.
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