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post Dec 15 2011, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Dec 15 2011, 07:47 PM) *
A big if. Though, the possibility can not entirely be discounted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Ibra has only two clubs he can aim for now, only two that have bigger ambitions than us. Real Madrid and Manchester City. Both are a shoe-in for the league title, and both looking to win the big prize (CL) this year or the next.

Ibrahimović gets a chance to keep his domestic league winning combo going, and a swipe at the CL too. Plus, the fat agent of his can get more meat in the fridge if he can make another transfer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Far fetched, but not outside the realm of possibility. The big Swede seems like he's adjusted to life here, but if he goes, these are the two clubs that come up.

Not to mention, both have coaches at the helm that Ibra has played under. Mourinho and Mancini.


Well I'd certainly rather keep Ibra than have Tevez. Ibra's record isn't something that worry's me, he'll always do the job for you. Would Tevez offer us that little bit more? Yes probably because he's got more movement and improvisation that Ibrahimovic, in that he'll go looking for the ball and will try to bring others in to play. He drops deep and is a play maker as well as a goalscorer

So in a perfect world I'd like to see them playing together if at all possible because I think they'd compliment each other. Where as if we just had Tevez he'd have nobody to play off. If it was a choice between one or the other though I'd pick Ibrahimovic based on non Footballing terms. I just don't think Tevez would be good for the club

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post Jan 19 2012, 08:57 PM
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http://www.football-italia.net/node/14818

phew thank goodness for that!
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:41 PM
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Jokes on QPR. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:25 PM
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It's for the best. I still don't get how we couldn't have utilized him better.
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:38 PM
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I don't know why we don't try Serie A based players more.
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:44 PM
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post Jan 20 2012, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 20 2012, 04:25 PM) *
It's for the best. I still don't get how we couldn't have utilized him better.

I wanted Taiwo to score at least one goal from his trademarked long shot before he left. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So not happening!
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post Jan 20 2012, 04:36 PM
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Why was Taiwo such a failure? He seemed to be a potentially great signing, coming from a strong league (6 years at a big big club ffs) and with almost 50 caps for his country.

Yet he never got much of a chance at Milan and got shipped out first chance we got.
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post Jan 20 2012, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 20 2012, 08:36 PM) *
Yet he never got much of a chance at Milan and got shipped out first chance we got.

As I said a few times already, it reflects poorly on the club scouts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) If you have to ship out players after six months, then either you did not measure the player properly (and how he would have adjusted in Milan), or the intention was to sign on him a free and make a couple of million on his subsequent sale.

Sure, it's extremely negative thinking the later, we are a big club after all, but so was the Taiwo experience!
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post Jan 20 2012, 05:07 PM
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I have to say Acid every signing is a risk - you cannot 'measure' how a player will cope with his new environment. It is always a gamble and you have to hope he fits in. It is not an exact science, and I would never blame our scouts for getting that one wrong.

Sometimes it just oddly doesn't work out and he doesn't adjust properly.

Maybe he's another Gilardino or Borriello - a player who couldn't handle playing for such a big club, and who have both done well at smaller clubs (hence the latter struggled at Roma and probably will at Juve). So he should be ok QPR.
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post Jan 20 2012, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 20 2012, 09:07 PM) *
I have to say Acid every signing is a risk - you cannot 'measure' how a player will cope with his new environment. It is always a gamble and you have to hope he fits in. It is not an exact science, and I would never blame our scouts for getting that one wrong.

Can't deny that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But with the experience and stable environment of the club (Galliani has been at the top for quarter of a century), we should know better. Particularly, seeing as we are not someone that splashes money left and right. For this instance, extra care should be exercised to only bring in players that have the best chance of adjusting.

But my major gripe is that whatever the player, we could/should have given him an extended longer run to prove himself. And by this I mean, 4-6 straight matches. 50 caps for NT, and 6 years at a big club went down the drain.
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post Jan 20 2012, 07:16 PM
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You asked why he was a failure? I'd say 5% goes on bad luck, 55% on the player and 40% is Allegri's doing.

Taiwo had a fair start, then did something wrong and Allegri momentarily sided him, like he did before with Sokratis. Then the extra pressure got to Taiwo and his obviously existent bad attributes popped out and turned the whole story in a one way street called disaster. Taiwo's last appearance however showed me that there is still room for improvement, and I fail to believe he's all in all a bad player. Yet it seems Allegri has 0 faith in him.
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post Jan 20 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 20 2012, 11:16 PM) *
Yet it seems Allegri has 0 faith in him.

Which, unfortunately, is the deal breaker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Sokratis wasn't somebody one can term a bad player, either!
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post Jan 20 2012, 08:40 PM
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Taiwo's a mediocre player and showed nothing special. We don't need another LB that can't defend and with awful positioning - we have that in Antonini. Sokratis was below par, not Milan quality at all.

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post Jan 20 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 21 2012, 12:40 AM) *
Taiwo's a mediocre player and showed nothing special. We don't need another LB that can't defend and with awful positioning - we have that in Antonini. Sokratis was below par, not Milan quality at all.

I don't know man, both were decent enough second choice players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I mean yeah, sure nothing to build a team around, or ones that would take Milan to glory, but utility players nonetheless. Unfortunately, the word "Milan Quality" has lost some of its allure and charm now, truth be told.

The only superstar we have in the team is Ibrahimović. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) The rest are getting there, or just good players. Meaning, gone are the days of last decade when we had an abundance of quality. And we may very well have to make do with slightly average players too, unless we suddenly start winning in Europe.
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