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Oct 3 2009, 06:24 AM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B
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1) I was watching the LA Galaxy - Chicago Fire match just now (ftr, Beckham and to some degree Donovan were clearly in another class than everyone else on the pitch of course) and an incident came up that I haven't seen before.
Chicago was making a run around midfield and sent a ball long over the LA defenders. The Chicago forward trying to catch up to the lob pass was easily offside but it wasn't called. Somehow, an LA defender closed the gap and actually beat the Chicago forward to the ball, right near the top of the box. The LA defender was sprinting, so had no chance to control the ball, and kind of deflected it to the keeper, who picked the ball up. The referree then stopped play and awarded Chicago a free kick! The announcer said something about a "back pass", and how it looked more like a deflection than a pass, and that it was a questionable call. Then more craziness ensued, but that's not relevant to my question.
Is it illegal then for a keeper to use his hands, if the defender passes it to him? I could swear I've seen keepers pick up the ball off of a teammate's pass all the time. I thought it was just illegal for a keeper to use hands if the keeper was outside of the box.
2) More of a terminology question. I understand that an attacking midfielder is sometimes called a "trequartista" or a "#10". In context I can tell these are terms for a playmaker, so to speak. Kind of like what we would all love Dinho to be. But where do the numbers come in - there's 10, and then "trequartista" makes me think of 3 and 4, but I'm probably breaking the word down wrong. Is there a connection that I'm missing or are they just kind of random nicknames for an attacking midfielder?
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Oct 3 2009, 02:42 PM
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Trequartista is an Italian term for playmaking midfielder. Donovan would be the equivalent player for LA. The best recent Milan example for a pure #10 would be Rui Costa. Ronaldinho, Kaka, and Seedorf are all sort of trequartistas but not exactly in the same way as Rui Costa was. The trequartista traditionally plays right behind the strikers in what's thought of as the 'three quarters' position (hence the name).
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Oct 3 2009, 03:14 PM
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^What diavolo and Tennie said and a couple more things: maybe you've seen the goalie pick up the ball from a teammate's pass in old videos? It was allowed back in the day but now the goalkeeper can only catch it if it's from a header or from the chest. It can be from the leg too but only if it's a deflection off it or a failed clearance in other words only if it's unintentional.
As for the numbers, the trequartista position has been associated with number 10 because in the past the teams could only use the numbers 1-11 for their first XI and starting from the goalkeeper who was given number 1 the players got their numbers according to their positions.
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Oct 16 2009, 10:54 PM
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It's got to be a different Maicon and not the one who plays for the Bad Team. The one who plays for the Bad Team is, as you note, too old to play for the U20s.
Didn't watch the final -- but yay Ghana for winning, especially doing so with 10 guys for most of an hour.
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