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Fillipo Simone
post Feb 16 2009, 11:48 PM
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I guess it must be true then...and what are the chances Palermo can hold on him?

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post Feb 17 2009, 12:27 AM
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So...what do you guys think of him?
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:04 AM
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Would Zampa even consider selling him to us? (he's 19 for god's sake. can't we either develop our own youth products or go buy an established defender?!)
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post Feb 17 2009, 02:18 AM
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Good question, zeddie. I personally think that Darmian should be given a solid chance. He's shown a good bit of technique and skill and heck. He's bloody captain of the Italy U20s. Surely that indicates he's halfway decent.
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post Feb 17 2009, 02:31 AM
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I know right...he needs to play but we haven't gottn much confidence in him yet that's why...Neways we should bring back Abate and not sign Beckham...
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post Feb 17 2009, 06:11 AM
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I really think Darmian will make it into the team. There's a lot to be said for a kid who refuses to go out on loan, and would rather play in the team as is. It could even be the reason, why we're not that obsessing about buying a new CB.

Thiago and Darmian for the future? Nesta becomes our new Maldini of the defence with guest appearances.
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:01 AM
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Not sure about Darmain. Both Ancelotti and especially Mauro know their job when it comes to defenders. And yet, Darmain played 2 or 3 matches, for a couple of minutes. And I honestly don't think it's all Carletto's character and stupidity that made that look bad. Tassotti would have said something also.

When played, he's mostly RB. Again, not exactly directing him for the CB.

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Would Zampa even consider selling him to us? (he's 19 for god's sake. can't we either develop our own youth products or go buy an established defender?!)

Who do you have in mind?

(edit: Funny, followin that qoute, one would think Milan fans are never satisfied when it comes to transfers - when you buy experience, you buy and old hag that's worthless, when you buy youth...)

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post Feb 17 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 17 2009, 02:01 PM) *
(edit: Funny, followin that qoute, one would think Milan fans are never satisfied when it comes to transfers - when you buy experience, you buy and old hag that's worthless, when you buy youth...)

There is always the middle part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The age 26-28 defenders. Established, and nothing but!
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:17 AM) *
There is always the middle part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The age 26-28 defenders. Established, and nothing but!

And? I want names from those established defenders!
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:44 AM
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No that would be Madrid. You have to make Huntelaar like transfers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Young and 'established'. Now they'll want Benzema, Messi, Fabregas, Ronaldo, Kaka etc.

I don't think we're stupid enough to not understand the value of squad players. Despite all the criticism, I don't think anyone here really thinks Favalli is useless. It's just that he's been playing (forced to play) as first choice often,that's bothering people. Not me of course. I hope he renews. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

One problem with our squad, is there is not gradual gradation of talent(esp in defence). I mean, there is a HUGE gap in skill between first and second choice, and then for second and third.

Case in point... Nesta-Maldini then Bonera-Kaladze....then Favalli-Senderos? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Sticking with the transfers, I think we need at an urgent level for a LB,CB and a target man striker(middling-above average will do). I'm mainly looking at EU players, since non-EU is always an unknown.

So LB: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Grosso? (ex-Inter...might work). Sounds ruthless, but exchange Oddo with Lyon for the deal. Or we could give Oddo + cash for Lahm. Or Yoann for Lahm. I dunno. Lahm is difficult, but he's a good wingback.

CB: even more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Really I don't know. I can drop names, but the possibilty is remote. Silva is nice. But we need another 6 ft plus dude. I'd like to get one of the Napoli boys. But at this stage, someone who's not got a lot to learn would be nice.

Striker: Borriello is a sole player for a position that's rapidly turning out to be very important for our current setup. So here I would think we'll need one more target man. Not too great, but someone good enough to deal with the smaller sides. I would think Jan Venegoor or Nikola Zigic. 10 million is about par for the course?

Mid-field: On paper, here's where we're staffed well and in depth, but besides the tweaking for the 4 number 10s we still didn't address the junction player. Zee doesn't like being water carrier, and you can only make a player take one for the team for so long. Does anyone know of any Essien types lying around? I would love to have Ballack here in case we don't take Beckham. Since Ballack also provides that aerial threat and is an intelligent box-to-box footballer. I'd gladly take Yoann, but he seems to be playing in the same position as Ronnie-Kaka. It's just more of the same.

Abate (and this one's just for Tennie), could be the crucial right sided wing forward we need. But he might not play a lot.

Something like
--------Rino--------
---Becks--Pirlo-----
Abate-----------Kaka/R80---
------Pato/Borriello-----

So we'd need to spend money for 3 purchases in my book: One LB, One CB and One striker. Oddo would work in providing for one of the transfers. So all in all, I would imagine a total spending of around 20-30 million. (Assuming a top CB).

Outgoing: Paolo, Favalli, Emo, Kalac. So that's about 6-8 million a year saved in wages.
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post Feb 17 2009, 12:56 PM
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Mediaset is saying that Milan are really interested in Mexes...but Roma are asking 20 million.
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:35 PM
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Good points Jack .. IMO, its crucial for the team to have a solid back-line. Especially after Maldini. Nesta's situation after the surgery will be a gray area, his problem is that he pushes too hard as a professional that he brings all sorts of complications to his physical ability as a human being. That said, if he comes back from the operation and his tests show an improvement, then the club will most likely stick with him as a first team player and one CB position already covered.

Another point is Borriello, he has not really been given a chance yet. The positive he is a Milan youth product - which fills the UEFA quota on the minimum required homegrown players. And though he has missed almost a whole season (9 months) of no activity as a player, Eduardo scored a brace in his first game after the operation, hence anything is possible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I hope he comes clean in the end (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

On the midfield, the way I see it, Milan doesn't have room for Gourcuff. The only way he would get in the mix, is if he produces a string of performances that would drive one of the current midfielders to the bench. And considering Beckham's form, Gourcuff's job has just gotten harder.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 17 2009, 02:56 PM) *
Mediaset is saying that Milan are really interested in Mexes...but Roma are asking 20 million.


I think Milan will go for Mexes if Roma ever consider selling the player. And I think, considering the rapport between the two clubs Milan has the upper hand. But yes, he wont come cheap.
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:35 PM
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vidic and mexes linked i think these top quality CB/CBs are needed i would be happy with anyone of them with silva,bonera, darmain, nesta (hopefully ) we will have a strong defence
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:58 PM
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Oh yes...Mexes would be very good. Especially to play him alongside Silva or Bonera who are no slouches. But I think Mexes could use Favalli's experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 17 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 17 2009, 03:58 PM) *
Oh yes...Mexes would be very good. Especially to play him alongside Silva or Bonera who are no slouches. But I think Mexes could use Favalli's experience. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Very much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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