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 Apr 17 2009, 08:18 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B  Group: Full Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 17-July 06 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 2,128  |
close but not really...Its just that these old players take up the spot of our really young players...Old players don't really have things to offer like the young players...Still playing Nedved over Giovinco...Nowadays, its about the young players who have the stubborn urge to run and fight to win games...Majority of milan's players are really slow and it affects our game..I personally wouldn't want Buffon here..He isn't better than Abbiati as of right now maybe before but not right now...I also dislike the fact that players says i'll love to end my career in milan after they've played majority of their careers while competitive..Like torres said he'll love to join milan in the future...He prob could decide to join us at mayabe 32....why? It seems they'll take us for a joke...They won't come when they were really hungry to win trophies but rather come after they've won all the trophies there is to win..Thats one of the reasons why i don't really like old players...Nowadays, football is fast and we don't possess that..bringing old players make it worse for us..It really does...Tennie, i'm sure u understand where i'm coming from!!
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Apr 17 2009, 08:20 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 17 2009, 09:13 PM)  new rumor from milannews: Milan are interested in Buffon - asking price is 30m + Flamini. I wouldn't take it. not because Flamini is included, but because Buffon has been nowhere near world's best 'keepers this season and who knows, he might not become the #1 again. of course, if he were to come for a cheaper price I'd be all for it, but 30m + Flamini is ridiculous. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:20 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
why spend so much on buffon, when we could get akinfeev for 20-25m range, he coud easily be our no.1 for 10 years.
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Apr 17 2009, 08:22 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 17 2009, 11:48 PM) Way better then Buffon? What has Buffon done so terrible this season to be labeled as way worse then Abbiati, except that he was injured for about 40% of the matches? He just keeps conceding cheap goals. no more jaw dropping saves anymore. not bad for an ordinary 'keeper but for Buffon... one expects more than this from someone who was world's #1 not very long time ago. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:32 PM
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Token Girl  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
QUOTE Old players don't really have things to offer like the young players I have no wish to get into an argument, but I will note that I disagree very strongly indeed with this comment. I think it's wrong, basically. Players 18-25 may in general terms be really fast. But players 25-30 have experience and that's by no means worthless. I think that it is dangerous to overgeneralize. By the way, Ronaldinho is now 29. Would you label him old and useless? As for the Buffon rumor, I think 30m is crazy money given his recent form. Fishdoll +1 to Hab's suggestion about Akinfeev though he notes that Samp's kid, Fiorillo, might also be worth prying away. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:52 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 17 2009, 07:32 PM) I have no wish to get into an argument, but I will note that I disagree very strongly indeed with this comment. I think it's wrong, basically. Players 18-25 may in general terms be really fast. But players 25-30 have experience and that's by no means worthless. I think that it is dangerous to overgeneralize. By the way, Ronaldinho is now 29. Would you label him old and useless? As for the Buffon rumor, I think 30m is crazy money given his recent form. Fishdoll +1 to Hab's suggestion about Akinfeev though he notes that Samp's kid, Fiorillo, might also be worth prying away. he has lots of potential but at the end of the day would milan ever consider playing a 19 year old in goal? akinfeev is still young but has tones of experience on the big stage considering his age (uefa cup and euros) meaning he could play right away for us. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:53 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 17 2009, 08:22 PM) He just keeps conceding cheap goals. no more jaw dropping saves anymore. not bad for an ordinary 'keeper but for Buffon... one expects more than this from someone who was world's #1 not very long time ago. One would also give extra credit to a injured player who's been out for quite a long time. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:57 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I mean...gosh we're rigid!
A man makes 7 great seasons in a row at least and then stumbles a single season (with a very plausible explanation) and suddenly he's a gamble, or a question mark. So best choice is get a 17 year old keeper who had 1 good season, right? What's the criteria we're using? Current form? Then please, buy Dzeko and Adebayor. He scored a lovely goal just recently. |
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Apr 17 2009, 08:59 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 17-July 06 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 2,128 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 17 2009, 07:32 PM) I have no wish to get into an argument, but I will note that I disagree very strongly indeed with this comment. I think it's wrong, basically. Players 18-25 may in general terms be really fast. But players 25-30 have experience and that's by no means worthless. I think that it is dangerous to overgeneralize. By the way, Ronaldinho is now 29. Would you label him old and useless? As for the Buffon rumor, I think 30m is crazy money given his recent form. Fishdoll +1 to Hab's suggestion about Akinfeev though he notes that Samp's kid, Fiorillo, might also be worth prying away. Tennie, to be honest, i really don't have anything against old players but the fact that we keep signing and keeping old players and welling our young players for old players is really bad...Having 5-6 old players in a squad of 28 isn't bad but when majority of the old players outweighs that of young talented players is really bad...Ronaldinho is a talented player and still has things to offer...We kept signing a lot of old players constantly..From Favalli to Oddo, to brocchi to Beckham, from Emerson to Amoroso, From Ronaldo to Buffon? I mean common, its really getting out of hands...There are prob some other old players that we've signed that i can't remember right now..But its really not good...We need to build for the future!!! Common Tennie u know what i'm saying!!! |
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Apr 17 2009, 09:03 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
And I think you're wrong, kenny. That's what I've been trying to say. You're welcome to voice your opinion just as I am welcome to voice mine.
I think it is not right to generalize based on age and then backtrack when one of your favorite players falls into the wrong group. Then again, I don't think said favorite player should have been bought in the first place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 17 2009, 09:05 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 17-July 06 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 2,128 |
Ok...so u still want us to sign old players?
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Apr 17 2009, 09:06 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
I want milan to sign GOOD players.
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Apr 17 2009, 09:08 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 17-July 06 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 2,128 |
even if they're old right?
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Apr 17 2009, 09:14 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Kenny, why do you have this unreasonable dislike of anyone over 25? Did someone aged 30 steal your puppy or something?
The prejudice is also...well, a little hypocritical given that you make exceptions for players you like (Ronaldinho, for example, who by your definition would be considered old) and then go on massive rants about those you don't. Fielding a bunch of teenagers BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUNG isn't the way to win championships. Ask Wenger (sorry, Locke). Fielding a group of players BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD AND WORK AS A TEAM might just do the job. Feel free to continue the rant, but I'm done with the bickering about it. |
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Apr 17 2009, 09:14 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Good players are always good. This is a quite rediculous discussion. A no-young players team would be idiotic just like a non-experienced/older players team. The point is in the balance mixed with quality.
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