[Rossoneri7]

****note: sorry for grammar and spelling errors...

I dont agree. Its not "his" club. Yes he does fund the club but he gets his share out of it as well. Also I am thankful to him for what hes done, but i'm also sick and tired of his regime and the board in which he controls. Football is a business as much as it is a sport. They must be maintained in equal harmony for success to be achieved.


At this time we have been too busy trying to fix the business side of the team that the sporting side has suffered dearly. When we did have money, we made poor investment choices and have caused ourselves to be in this mess.

ex: beckham, sheva, oliveria, borriello, and all the co ownerships that i'm sure no one wants.


We should have sacked carlo last year, but we chose not to. If that isn't rubbish enough, we gave him a player he did not want and in the end wasted 21 million as he sat on the bench. There are many more examples, which i'm sure you know and i don't need to go on listing. Now we have hired an inexperienced coach who could either do great or put our team at a great risk, when we could have gone for the experienced choice like rijkaard.


Right now because of these poor choices we have no choice but to sell our best in order to fix our situation. The only reason we are selling Kaka is because he is the most expensive player. It doesn't matter who it is, it could have been pato or pirlo or even the great paolo if this occured 10-15 years ago.

This for me is not acceptable. It was "his" fault that we have plumited to this mess. "his" fault for not investing properly when he had the opportunity to deal with this. "his" fault why we have gone from the world's greatest club to a 4th position mess every year. So now i'm assuming because of "his" mistakes, he will fix it with "his" own money and not sacrificing someone like Kaka in order to fix it.


If he won't , then I want him out. Silvio is great but not greater than Milan. I would rather have arab owners than silvio at this point. At least I know we won't turn into a selling club, selling our best players. We are the laughing stock of europe because of this GREAT SILVIO.

Ok Blue ...

Lets stick to rational here, you have stated several points which (I assume) bother you and probably a lot of others.

Okay, let it be noted that Silvio has gained from Milan over the years, but not as much financially as politically. Why not financially ? Because football in Italy is kinda like pouring water into a pierced bucket. Cash, to some extent, is not generated at the same rate as it used to. Football is a business and it is categorized under entertainment. But again, in Italy it is not as BIG an industry as say England or Spain, where their bottom line is significantly better. Milan, as a club is profitable. But it is not generating cash at the end of the year, hence Silvio comes in (most likely through Fininvest) and injects more cash to keep the club running. This cycle has been going on for sometime now in order to keep Milan as a European giant.

Why doesn't Silvio sell the club ? I have no idea other than his affection towards it. An Arab, Russian, Persian .. They are better off buying into an EPL club than an Italian. (In fact, I read this editorial once about Sheikh Mansour's acquisition of City, he was interested in Roma, but after doing a feasibility study they backed off). As things stand Milan really is his club, and there is very little you or I could do protesting against it. He did after all, take Milan through several cycles in which the trophy cabinet at Via Turati bears the fruits of his success as President.

Were some of Milan's purchases bad ? Yes, some of them were, over the span of 22 years. But most of them proved to be fruitful. It is not a matter of, Milan sell Sheva for 30MM, hence 30MM is going to be spent on a replacement. 30MM has to be filtered, and divided into expenses and dues .. Whatever is left over, is (in a simplified scenario) used to finance the purchase of player X. Hence, it is not as simple as a,b,c ... It incorporates a lot of elements, that we are not exposed to.

I feel your sorrow, I really do ... As a fan, you want to see Milan on top of the pile, as do every single one of us in here ... You say Paolo could have been sold 10-15 years ago !? 10-15 years ago my friend, Serie A was the top league in Europe. It was kinda like what the EPL is today, much more lucrative in all aspects. And Paolo was targeted by Madrid during those times, Milan didn't budge, on the contrary Milan where in a better position financially, as was the whole league at the time, but that was then.

Today, Milan has to sell Kaka' ... It is inevitable. The quoted 70MM pounds is a mind boggling number, which could be put towards funding the club in all its aspects. My reasoning for it that Kaka' is 27 now ... He roughly has two more years left in him - as his attributes depend on speed & agility - and from then on he wont be worth 70MM. So, considering this, the management has been shrewd in the timing of the sale. Considering Milan needs the money to build a competitive team.

As for Carlo, he is gone now. Fillipo's sig describes this scenario pretty well, 'We can't behave like crocodiles and cry over spilled milk and broken eggs'. I consider Carlo to be one of the best managers that have trained Milan, and I'm saddened by his departure as he brought the team a lot of success when he took the reins. And cheer up, Leo is a rookie coach, but so were Sacchi & Capello.

[Rossoneri7]

This is ridiculous. We're talking about Europe? We cannot even compete in Italy for God's sake, is that because Spanish clubs have it easier!????? Galliani is the only representative of any Italian club that speaks about this and he does it with ever single chance! Don't you wonder why this happens?

Why does it happen ?

[Zed.D]

Why doesn't Silvio sell the club ? I have no idea other than his affection towards it. An Arab, Russian, Persian .. They are better off buying into an EPL club than an Italian.

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An American would be a more appropriate example don't you think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

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An American would be a more appropriate example don't you think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, I was thinking of the Shah at the time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Zed.D]

Well, I was thinking of the Shah at the time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

He owned a club or something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

He owned a club or something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

AC Bushehr ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[Zed.D]

AC Bushehr ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

LOL I really don't know!

[KillerMax]

from the man himself, its official.


No, Galliani we don't understand. We don't understand why players like kaladze, Dida etc are getting 77k a week for doing jack s***. We don't understand why sheva was brought here when everyone could see he was a finished player. We don't understand why Ronaldinho was bought for 21 million when that money could been easily spent somewhere else and could have brought 100x more benefit. We don't understand why our youth products like abate, paloschi and etc have to be sent out on stupid co-ownerships that in the end cause us to lose money. We don't understand how you could loan a player like Gourcuff out and put such a lowe clause like 15 million on him when you could easily see that he had the potential to become great. We don't understand why you have waited until there is no other choice to sack the coach who was finished 2 seasons ago.

We don't understand why you continually choose to invest in veteran players who have at maximum 1 or 2 years to give when success comes from a balance of great youth and great veterans. We don't understand how you continually boast about Milan being a family like club who defends its players, when Maldini had to go through that abysmal event without any support from the club. We don't understand why you are selling our best player to fix the mess caused by silvio and you. We don't understand how you can justify these things so easily with such foolish statements such as italian football is in a mess when other clubs are easily double or tripling our spending.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[6Best]

Real Madrid Stunned By Kaka's Demands - Report
Greed is taking its toll as Kaka's father is asking the impossible from Real Madrid...


Kaka's alleged move to Real Madrid was well on the way of being wrapped earlier today as AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani publicly declared that the Brazilian is most likely to leave Italy, whereas president Silvio Berlusconi said that the move was up to the player himself.

After the two clubs agreed a fee of €65 million, conflict has now arisen between Real Madrid and Kaka's representatives, who are making astronomical demands.

According to British paper The Mirror, Kaka's agent and father, Bosco Leite, is supposedly asking for a personal commission of €11.5 million, a sum that Real Madrid president Florentino Perez thinks is much too high.

Leite is also demanding a signing-on-fee of an additional €11.5 million, plus a transfer and €1.5 million for Kaka's younger brother Digao. This would make Real Madrid pay a total €89.5 million, a sum that would break the bank as the highest transfer in history.

Real Madrid have been taken aback after receiving these outrageous demands, and are unlikely to accede to the terms of the deal. Should this be the case, then Kaka will remain at Milan, having already declared earlier this week that he wants to stay put at his current club.

Kaka is in Brazil with the national team preparing for a World Cup Qualifier against Uruguay, and has not been given permission to leave the country to sign any deals.

He has also refused to make any comments about his situation, but the Spanish press are adamant that Kaka indeed wants Madrid, declaring to his friends, "Everything is almost done. I know that I will be going to Madrid. I am very happy."

The final decision concerning Kaka's future is expected to be revealed on Monday.

I love his father . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[IoRDanCHo]

Silvio, does not care for the club as he did before. The only thing that he is thinking now are money! I am sad that KaKa is leaving, but I am really mad that after we sell him, we will not buy anyone even half good as KaKa. I wish we buy Tevez and Ronnie gets to his shape when he played for Barca and with Pato, It'll be great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

"Milan cannot lose €70 million every year"

Not sure I understand this comment from Galiani. Is he saying that since we're making a huge loss every year, we need to sell Kaka'? If so, if we're continually making this loss, does that mean we'll have to sell another top player to counter this loss? Not good.

[Habitant]

^^ because were surely going to recover by selling our stars, great way promote the club and generate more revenue.

[Zed.D]

"Milan cannot lose €70 million every year"

Not sure I understand this comment from Galiani. Is he saying that since we're making a huge loss every year, we need to sell Kaka'? If so, if we're continually making this loss, does that mean we'll have to sell another top player to counter this loss? Not good.

I think it's bad translation. he meant Milan cannot resist mega offers in each transfer window i.e. we finally have to sell and cash in that money.

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RATIONALITY AND EMOTION

6/4/2009 5:52:00 PM

Silvio Berlusconi speaks: 'Me and Kaká will speak on Monday. Not everything has been decided yet, inside of me I still hope for a surprise. But football has never been centered on this or that player.'

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MILAN - Silvio Berlusconi speaks. The Milan president talked about the current topics at Milan: here are his main declarations of today to Mediaset's microphones.

"Football should be rationality and emotion. You can't take a decision only with reasoning, also because as you know I follow Erasmus of Rotterdam who said that the most right decisions are not the ones that come from intelligence, but those that come from a kind of visionary madness.'

'The Kaká case is quite complicated. Reason goes in one direction, sentiment goes the other way. Then there's Kaká's interest, as with Shevchenko, who was and still is a good friend of mine. When they offered him a bigger fee, I decided I could not oppose myself. We could not raise his salary the way Chelsea would with their offer, because by law we would have had to raise the salaries of all our players and this would have brought Milan to suffer heavy losses or to go bankrupt.
Already today we presented a balance with heavy losses over the years, because petrol dollars have entered football and some Russian personalities too. Going on like this there won't be a chance to have balanced accounts. We have to say stop to craziness and work by staying careful of the balances. We will reason on this. If aside from this, Kaká made it clear that they would pay him better we would leave it up to him. Me and Kaká have made an appointment for a long phone call on Monday. Not everything has been decided yet, inside of me I still hope for a surprise. Inside of me I hope.

'I don't want to hear talk of a redimensioned Milan, which is still the most winning club in the world. It's unthinkable that we would have to give up on our mission of being in command of the pitch and of the football. The mission will not change. Football has never been centered on this or that player. There are many good players. Milan will have to look for a true striker who would make us improve in quality going forward. I won't name names, or else the prices will increase...'

'Only Kaká is currently uncertain of staying, Pato, Seedorf and Pirlo are unsellable. We will renew Ambrosini's contract and he'll be our captain.'

'Ancelotti? There are cycles, then you have to change. There are some seasons where you have to say 'stop' and change. Leonardo will repeat the journey of Fabio Capello. I had seen excellent qualities in Capello as a manager, as a man and as a motivator. We made him start as a manager, then he went to coach youths, and then in the end, when we felt he was ready, we made him the coach, with the results we all know. The new coach will bring new ambition and excitement to Milan, we will aim for new targets with him. Carlo Ancelotti will do fine at Chelsea.'

'I told Cristiano Ronaldo that I would like to see him as a Rossonero and he looked at me... Who doesn't like Milan? All players would like to come to Milan.'

Ambro to be the next captain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 4 2009, 06:03 PM

[kurtsimonw]

I think it's bad translation. he meant Milan cannot resist mega offers in each transfer window i.e. we finally have to sell and cash in that money.

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Ambro to be the next captain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Super Ambro!

[Rivaldo]

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