[CrazyMilanFan]

most likly on monday kaka will leave for madrid or there is a minor chance that he mite be made milan captain imo

This post has been edited by CrazyMilanFan: Jun 4 2009, 11:34 AM

[Rivaldo]

We just want to sell our best player for money? Is our name - Valencia?? Even Roma with own debts refuses to sell Mexes....

I hate Galliani and Berlusconi....

Hope tiffosi will do smth.

This post has been edited by Rivaldo: Jun 4 2009, 11:51 AM

[I_Rossoneri]

We just want to sell our best player for money? Is our name - Valencia?? Even Roma with own debts refuses to sell Mexes....

I hate Galliani and Berlusconi....

Hope tiffosi will do smth.

Oh don't worry, I'm sure galliani will get his rewards on his flight back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Maybe you guys should take over?

[Bluesummers]

Milan vice president Adriano Galliani has admitted that star player Kaka will leave the club for Real Madrid as he fears for the future of Serie A.

The transfer guru believes that Italy cannot compete with Spain and England financially, and he is predicting many more great players to leave the peninsula over the next few years.

"There is a deal in place for Kaka [to join Real Madrid] but it has not been concluded yet," said Galliani, as reported by Sky Italia.

"I don't know if Kaka will stay. The only deal in place is for Kaka. No one else will leave and we are sure Pato will not depart.

"It's true, this is the first time Milan are selling a player for money. But remember, the club makes half of what Madrid makes as the taxes in Italy are higher.

"Over the next few years we will see lots of important players being sold in Serie A.

"I am sorry for the fans and I know they are upset, but I can promise that Pato will not be sold. [Chelsea manager] Ancelotti is a friend and he will not ask us for players."

Kaka's transfer to Real Madrid is expected to be completed early next week, probably Monday.

[Bluesummers]

Maybe you guys should take over?

no need we have an arab ready to do so.

[dst]

Maybe you guys should take over?

It's not about that. No one said that he/she can do better than our board. It's easy to spot mistakes when you're on the outside or after they have happened and our board like all human beings do make mistakes. The thing is, they have made too many mistakes as of late and that's why we finish 4th and celebrate like we have won the championship!

What's more puzzling though is that we're the only club talking about taxes and stuff when it's our own president that's the prime minister of Italy. He probably would have changed things if he could but it's quite ironic and a bit annoying hearing these things only from our vice-president's mouth.

[mallamkay]

I can't see why Galliani should not be there or that he can't be for any other reason. Everything's pretty normal in my opinion. Guys, relax! if they wanna make a transfer they can do it before we learn a thing about it, Galliani being there means nothing at all.

If Kaka leaves Milan, I would prefer him in Madrid than Chelsea or City. It would be painful but we would cope.

[han2503]

The CL victory was an excuse for staying inactive in the transfer window. It justified our abstinence and the board used that victory to say "we're fine as we are". A year without trophies would have triggered at least a couple of changes in the squad which would be enough for Milan to reach 4th place at least. No changes were made and the result of that was Milan finishing 5th place. The CL is huge money which not even the Ronaldinho and Beckham brands could cover as it is proved now.

We get what we deserve.

100% agree with you on that. I always said that the CL win was both a blessing and a curse. It's sad for me as a fan to think of a CL win that way, but this is only because our management are the way they are.

Monday will be a sad day both for Milan and Italian football. Kaka, then Ibra...

First example I thought of, so don't feed me to the lions.

But now that you mention it, Juve survived just fine after dumping Zidane (they later signed some guy named Buffon), so there's no reason why we can't. It was Calciopoli that did them more damage than anything.

You're assuming that we'll do as Juve did and spend that transfer money on new quality players. But that is clearly not the case, as dst said, this transfer is happening for financial reasons not footballing ones.

You think we're going to go out there and get the next Buffon? Get a world class CB? No we'll stay as we are with Abbiati and Dida and Favalli and Bonera in defence. We're perfect as we are we have no problems.

Then watch them go out and spend a ridiculous ammount on a mediocre player like Adebayour. You know a couple of years ago I haled our management as one of the most cunning and shrewed when it came to transfers, let's not forget the great deals made for Pippo, Nesta, Seedorf and Pirlo we really stuck it to Inter with latter 2 of the 4. But now they've become slow operators, willing to spend big money on players that are not worth half that, not going after the players we need instead they're going after flashy options to sell shirts and memrobilia.

I'm sorry but since the Sheva sale it's like they've been on a mission to run Milan into the ground and make it a laughing stock.

[pacang]

i can't believe this.. the first man in the club is the prime minister of the country..

yet the second man keeps complaining about taxes and our income..

first time we sell a player for money? are we suppose to be proud of that?

[Rossoneri7]

As it is very easy looking at positives, and not looking at a real light, then moaning about others opinions without much backing up.

I mean, this is an Internet forum, we're all sat behind our computers/hand-held devices stating opinions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) that's just quite a stupid comment.

I'm pretty sure, I mentioned downfall, which I guess if you look at stats over the last few seasons is true. I said we are streets behind United, Barca, etc which you have admitted is true. We are not what we were in the early 90's! That can't be argued with.

I didn't say we were useless, rubbish or anything like it seems you have interpreted me into saying! I guess the truth hurts for all of us, especially when stated so bluntly.

Yes Ash, I think I tend to forget I'm on an internet forum ... And I wasn't directing that at you, I was just pissed at some of what was written.

My point was that the issue Galliani raised is a pure fact, and it is not just affecting football in Italy, but several other sectors in Italy. To amplify it, Italian clubs can not compete with their counterparts in Europe .. This is a reality that no one is taking into account. It is not rocket science, Galliani has been saying this for the past four years. Yet it is being discounted here and in most cases marginalized.

My point is, take a look at this random post here :

No lol. Galliani already said the money will be used for a great attacker. So i'm guessing 30 mil max and the rest into silvio's pockets.

This is exactly what I mean by 'easy to sit behind a computer, etc etc'

I am not implying anything ... I just wish people would either stick to rationality or remain irrational throughout their argument.


As for the downfall, yes it is evident, but that is only normal because it is an issue that is affecting all of Italy.

And some assume that selling the club would be beneficial to the club ... But if you consider the situation, as Galliani described it, no one seems keen to invest in Italian clubs. Unlike England, where the income is magnified to that in Italy. But then again, this is an internet forum and you totally have a point in that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

My point was that the issue Galliani raised is a pure fact, and it is not just affecting football in Italy, but several other sectors in Italy. To amplify it, Italian clubs can not compete with their counterparts in Europe .. This is a reality that no one is taking into account. It is not rocket science, Galliani has been saying this for the past four years. Yet it is being discounted here and in most cases marginalized.

This is ridiculous. We're talking about Europe? We cannot even compete in Italy for God's sake, is that because Spanish clubs have it easier!????? Galliani is the only representative of any Italian club that speaks about this and he does it with ever single chance! Don't you wonder why this happens?

[Habitant]

Kaka has been flirting with RM for about four seasons now, so who's to say that he won't take the plunge this time?

He told Man City to go to hell because he knew better than to go to a Premier League bottom-scraper. Madrid is a whole different kettle of fish (or is that fishdolls?) altogether.

oh come on, the only ones flirting are galliani and silvio, they get hard just thinking of all that money. they've been quoted several times saying they consider/considred selling him.

[Habitant]

It's not about that. No one said that he/she can do better than our board. It's easy to spot mistakes when you're on the outside or after they have happened and our board like all human beings do make mistakes. The thing is, they have made too many mistakes as of late and that's why we finish 4th and celebrate like we have won the championship!

What's more puzzling though is that we're the only club talking about taxes and stuff when it's our own president that's the prime minister of Italy. He probably would have changed things if he could but it's quite ironic and a bit annoying hearing these things only from our vice-president's mouth.

hehe i've seen a lil too much of that lately.

at the end of the day and this is universally true in business, you cant expect to grow or even retain your level of prominance by sitting on ur ***. you just cant allow for things to get stangnet.

when we had money before and immediately after athens we had money to spend, the year after as well, but then we find ways to splurge on r20 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) the real problem is POOOR MANAGMENT, just look the past 6 years players and our transfers (in and out). the only smart moves have been ones driven by leo.

This post has been edited by Habitant: Jun 4 2009, 03:15 PM

[Zed.D]

This is ridiculous. We're talking about Europe? We cannot even compete in Italy for God's sake, is that because Spanish clubs have it easier!????? Galliani is the only representative of any Italian club that speaks about this and he does it with ever single chance! Don't you wonder why this happens?

dst, you already know the truth of the matter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)