[whoarethepatriot...]

Sid Lowe is the La Liga correspondent for the Guardian. I dont remember seeing that article on the guardian, but he is extremely knowledgeable on La Liga

[Tennie]

Still doesn't mean he knows anything other than what he's being fed. Until we get official stuff from direct sources, I at least am going to be very suspicious of any articles - especially articles on places as unreliable and prone to fantasy as goal.

[whoarethepatriot...]

He must of heard it from his Marca or AS contacts, but i agree with you. I dont think he is in the loop. One of the Spanish guys who does "Revista De La Liga" (Guillem Balague) said a similar thing in his programe. But again, most likely it came from Marca and those guys are lunatics.

Monday is when we will know i expect. I am not optimisitc, especially after the Shevchenko deception

[Rivaldo]

21:33 BERLUSCONI: PATO AL CHELSEA? ASSOLUTAMENTE NO - «Assolutamente no». Silvio Berlusconi, a margine della registrazione di Porta a Porta, è perentorio nel negare che vi sia alcun rischio che l'asso brasiliano Pato sia venduto al Chelsea.

21:05 AGENTE PATO: NESSUNA GARANZIA CHE RESTI - Dopo l'allarme rosso per Kakà, al Milan si accende anche quello per Pato, il cui agente non se la sente di dare garanzie sul suo futuro in rossonero. «Il Milan deve decidere la situazione di Pato, noi siamo entusiasti dell'interesse del Chelsea per il giocatore, ma solo al Milan spetta la decisione finale - ha spiegato ai microfoni di Antenna3 e Telelombardia Gilmar Veloz, il procuratore del brasiliano -. Pato ha un contratto con il Milan ma se la società dovesse trovare un accordo con il Chelsea saremmo disponibili a trattare». «Al momento, però, - è la conclusione di Veloz - non posso dare garanzie ai tifosi che Pato rimanga al Milan, la società non è mia e soltanto un responsabile del Milan potrà dare questa risposta».

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/C...utta+la+diretta

Yeaaah....Pato ia next

[Tennie]

Again with the fatalistic attitudes. Sheesh.

All the agent said (in the thing quoted above) is that he couldn't guarantee that Pato would remain with milan as that's something the club decides, not him.

[Rossoneri7]

Then berlu should sell. We have someone who is willing to buy the club and fully support it, however he does not wish to sell.


I just don't understand it. We are falling so fast and the people who control this club always come up with excuses to better their situation. If galliani says italian football is in trouble, it looks hypocritical if juve are spending so easily and inter are spending so easily as well. Furthermore, we are the only ones complaining about this situation.



No one is saying what Galliani is saying is wrong; yes italian football has problems; however, their comes a choice and if he can no longer invest in the club like every other owner such as morratti, then he must leave.


Silvio must go, just like our coach being here too long, there is such a thing as the president being here too long as well.

Well, Juve don't spend so easily ... Just because Juve don't have as high expenses as Milan in wages and hence are able to purchase one good buy, does NOT mean they are better economically than Milan. And please make note that Juve bowed down to Madrid when a then world record price came in for Zidane.


Silvio must go !? I'm sorry, but I don't understand where this is coming from ... This is THE man who made Milan into the club you have come to know today. I am really confused by this kind of attitude, for which I have no idea on what basis are your assumptions coming from !?

If he decides to sell Kaka', then he wants a return on his investment to restructure and improve on HIS team. If he wants to sell Pato, then he wants a return on HIS investment .. and please notice the HIS, cuz it all came from HIS pocket.

If that is your opinion, then by all means go ahead, but don't address me with it, because I am very grateful for what this man had done for Milan, taking it from bankruptcy in '86 to a pillar of European football in our modern day. No club president in Europe had done the same!

[LaPalma]

Well, Juve don't spend so easily ... Just because Juve don't have as high expenses as Milan in wages and hence are able to purchase one good buy, does NOT mean they are better economically than Milan. And please make note that Juve bowed down to Madrid when a then world record price came in for Zidane.


Silvio must go !? I'm sorry, but I don't understand where this is coming from ... This is THE man who made Milan into the club you have come to know today. I am really confused by this kind of attitude, for which I have no idea on what basis are your assumptions coming from !?

If he decides to sell Kaka', then he wants a return on his investment to restructure and improve on HIS team. If he wants to sell Pato, then he wants a return on HIS investment .. and please notice the HIS, cuz it all came from HIS pocket.

Well spoken.

[Zed.D]

If Silvio wants a return on his investement he can sell Dinho too the player he wasted 21m on thanks to Carlo. or he can sell those players who make millions of unearned euros each year. you don't do that by selling your best players. no one in their right mind would do that.

And Silvio is not bigger than Milan, get over it. no one is. someday he will be gone, Milan will always remain.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 3 2009, 10:48 PM

[MizNelson]

Sid Lowe is the La Liga correspondent for the Guardian.

I guess that's his second job when he's not busy coaching NC State's basketball team.

[I_Rossoneri]

If Silvio wants a return on his investement he can sell Dinho too the player he wasted 21m on thanks to Carlo. or he can sell those players who earn millions of unearned euros each year. you don't do that by selling your best players. no one in their right mind would do that.

And Silvio is not bigger than Milan, get over it. no one is. someday he will be gone, Milan will always remain.

Well said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Zed.D]

I wonder how Leonado is going to cope with a Kaka-less Milan. even if Kaka hasn't been at his best in the past 2 seasons, in 7 games he didn't play this season, we only got a few points (what was it exactly...?). we'll making things harder for Leo.

[dst]

Berlusconi has made Milan what she is today but that does not give him the right to break it all down. I'm not saying that's what he does but don't sanctify him, he can be judged too. He has gained much more from Milan than he has given so don't make sound like he's some good Samaritan!

[Bluesummers]

Well, Juve don't spend so easily ... Just because Juve don't have as high expenses as Milan in wages and hence are able to purchase one good buy, does NOT mean they are better economically than Milan. And please make note that Juve bowed down to Madrid when a then world record price came in for Zidane.


Silvio must go !? I'm sorry, but I don't understand where this is coming from ... This is THE man who made Milan into the club you have come to know today. I am really confused by this kind of attitude, for which I have no idea on what basis are your assumptions coming from !?

If he decides to sell Kaka', then he wants a return on his investment to restructure and improve on HIS team. If he wants to sell Pato, then he wants a return on HIS investment .. and please notice the HIS, cuz it all came from HIS pocket.

If that is your opinion, then by all means go ahead, but don't address me with it, because I am very grateful for what this man had done for Milan, taking it from bankruptcy in '86 to a pillar of European football in our modern day. No club president in Europe had done the same!

****note: sorry for grammar and spelling errors...

I dont agree. Its not "his" club. Yes he does fund the club but he gets his share out of it as well. Also I am thankful to him for what hes done, but i'm also sick and tired of his regime and the board in which he controls. Football is a business as much as it is a sport. They must be maintained in equal harmony for success to be achieved.


At this time we have been too busy trying to fix the business side of the team that the sporting side has suffered dearly. When we did have money, we made poor investment choices and have caused ourselves to be in this mess.

ex: beckham, sheva, oliveria, borriello, and all the co ownerships that i'm sure no one wants.


We should have sacked carlo last year, but we chose not to. If that isn't rubbish enough, we gave him a player he did not want and in the end wasted 21 million as he sat on the bench. There are many more examples, which i'm sure you know and i don't need to go on listing. Now we have hired an inexperienced coach who could either do great or put our team at a great risk, when we could have gone for the experienced choice like rijkaard.


Right now because of these poor choices we have no choice but to sell our best in order to fix our situation. The only reason we are selling Kaka is because he is the most expensive player. It doesn't matter who it is, it could have been pato or pirlo or even the great paolo if this occured 10-15 years ago.

This for me is not acceptable. It was "his" fault that we have plumited to this mess. "his" fault for not investing properly when he had the opportunity to deal with this. "his" fault why we have gone from the world's greatest club to a 4th position mess every year. So now i'm assuming because of "his" mistakes, he will fix it with "his" own money and not sacrificing someone like Kaka in order to fix it.


If he won't , then I want him out. Silvio is great but not greater than Milan. I would rather have arab owners than silvio at this point. At least I know we won't turn into a selling club, selling our best players. We are the laughing stock of europe because of this GREAT SILVIO.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jun 4 2009, 01:01 AM

[Tennie]

Well. I'm not going to bother to comment on the various rants other than to say that I disagree with them and think that some people may be overreacting just a tad.

And I'm completely unsurprised that, tonight, the director of Milannews has put up an editorial stating that the whole thing is just a bluff and that Kaka will remain.

[enda]

sell ronaldinho not kaka.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)