[Jack Sparrow]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You are one right ray of sunshine. Keep up the optimism and I'm gonna need shades when I'm around you.



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You need rum, you're wound up too tight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Ry4n]

I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

sounds like someone going back to college or school (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[mishie]

Beginning to wonder if the players we are linked with are Leo's choices or is he suffering the Don Silvio effect.....Adebayor..no thanks...Fabiano...hmmmm not another brazilian please...Hunterlaar....now that would be great.

[han2503]

Beginning to wonder if the players we are linked with are Leo's choices or is he suffering the Don Silvio effect.....Adebayor..no thanks...Fabiano...hmmmm not another brazilian please...Hunterlaar....now that would be great.

I'm starting to worry a bit about Leo first that whole 'messed up thing' now him coming out and saying that coaching isn't really something that he's wanted to do or saw himself doing.

Personally I think he was pushed into it more then anything else. As the next season could well likely be a transitional one and we won't have a competitive team. Only someone from the inside would accept this sort of deal.

[mishie]

I'm starting to worry a bit about Leo first that whole 'messed up thing' now him coming out and saying that coaching isn't really something that he's wanted to do or saw himself doing.

Personally I think he was pushed into it more then anything else. As the next season could well likely be a transitional one and we won't have a competitive team. Only someone from the inside would accept this sort of deal.

I think i said in another thread about the balancing of the books for the next couple of seasons...this smacks to me of just employing someone who is already on the books...top class coach would require top money and insist on top players...it all costs and we all know a major rebuilding job is required.

So i guess they thought cheap option play down our chances of winning anything and hope we make the top 4...how long Serie A keeps its 4 C.L places is another thing but thats a different conversation for another thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

I think i said in another thread about the balancing of the books for the next couple of seasons...this smacks to me of just employing someone who is already on the books...top class coach would require top money and insist on top players...it all costs and we all know a major rebuilding job is required.

So i guess they thought cheap option play down our chances of winning anything and hope we make the top 4...how long Serie A keeps its 4 C.L places is another thing but thats a different conversation for another thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Agreed

And hopefully all the Italian teams do well. And sadly Italy has been relying on Milan for the co-efficient point these past few years, and now Milan is not strong enough to compete.

And Inter... No matter how well they do in Italy or who their coach is, they'll still stumble when it comes to the big stage. Let's hope they'll at least make it past the last 16 this time and not get beaten out by another brit team.

Same goes for Juve who haven't been a force in the CL since their Lippi days.

Personally I would have prefered Roma to get one of the places, Fiorentina are still new to the game and like last season they'll find it hard to cope, maybe even more this time around as they'll lose some of their best players...

[Protagonist]

Maybe he is too young, but I believe Pato can do wonderful things for us next season. He has done very well for a kid in a league a tough league so far, and he does have the speed that compensates for Kaka. Then if Ronaldinho regains his form, then there could be a possibility of Milan challenging to some extent. Adding one more striker, and hoping that these three click, you never know.

Ideally I would think it would take a miracle for Milan to win within the coming three seasons, but football is crazy in every sense of the term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[han2503]

Maybe he is too young, but I believe Pato can do wonderful things for us next season. He has done very well for a kid in a league a tough league so far, and he does have the speed that compensates for Kaka. Then if Ronaldinho regains his form, then there could be a possibility of Milan challenging to some extent. Adding one more striker, and hoping that these three click, you never know.

Ideally I would think it would take a miracle for Milan to win within the coming three seasons, but football is crazy in every sense of the term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

We'd still need to look at the defence which is not great same goes for the midfield. We need a player that can replace Seedorf and play in that position.

It's not just about the attack, we have problems in all areas of the pitch

Even the goal keeping position is shaky, as we don't know if Abbiati will come into next season playing like cr@p or not and Dida is not good enough anymore

[Protagonist]

Yeah .. It doesn't seem like we will be challenging for top honors anytime soon. Maybe three years from now, maybe longer.

[mishie]

We'd still need to look at the defence which is not great same goes for the midfield. We need a player that can replace Seedorf and play in that position.

It's not just about the attack, we have problems in all areas of the pitch

Even the goal keeping position is shaky, as we don't know if Abbiati will come into next season playing like cr@p or not and Dida is not good enough anymore

not just on the pitch...i think the club off the pitch is at its lowest for many years....i firmly believe we have lost of sense of morals with the way Kaka was pushed from the club which he stated time and again he didn't want to leave.
Balancing the books s all well and good but there are still huge wage earners at the club so whats next?? Pato sold next season...it's not a understatment to say this club is in turmoil and 3 years to challenge for anything only if things work out if not....5 years plus i think

[han2503]

not just on the pitch...i think the club off the pitch is at its lowest for many years....i firmly believe we have lost of sense of morals with the way Kaka was pushed from the club which he stated time and again he didn't want to leave.
Balancing the books s all well and good but there are still huge wage earners at the club so whats next?? Pato sold next season...it's not a understatment to say this club is in turmoil and 3 years to challenge for anything only if things work out if not....5 years plus i think

THANKYOU!!!

Exactly what I've been trying to say for weeks now!!

What was the point of selling Kaka when we still have players who lets face it are only doing damage to the club by staying earning over 4m a season? These wages will render the Kaka sale null in 2 years time...

[mishie]

Dida,Kaladze,Favalli,Kalac,Sheva all these players on vast sums of money then the players that have left since the end of the season like Emerson,Senderos major earners apart from Favalli all pretty useless.

Also the acquisition of Flamini in a already packed midfield also on big money when a position was already filled 3 times over in the midfield.

Major major bad running of this club for the last several years...and the lessons haven't been learnt from several key areas such as

1. Calciopoli...Galliani was involved and should have been shown the door when the club was found guilty, the man is incompetent and a liar.

2. The non qualification of last season C.L in which everyone could see in the last game of the previous seasons tournament how slow we were against Arsenal and how little we created and compare this against the absolute hammering we gave Man.Utd a couple of seasons previous.

3. The buying of "toy" players by Berlisconi players such as Ronaldo,Ronaldinho and latest Beckham...turning the club into a worldwide circus more interested in selling shirts than winning games.

4. Related to number 3 is the constant interference by Silvio in formation choice and player selection.

5. The vast amount of €'s invested in the academy and the refusual to play these players even in Coppa games.

All these thing have contributed to a slow decline which ends up in the unthinkable....we have to sell our best players to compensate for the overspending on bad decisions which unless something serious happens will just continue season after season until the fans become like fans from Naples....living on past glories and hoping one day maybe one day it will happen again!

[han2503]

Dida,Kaladze,Favalli,Kalac,Sheva all these players on vast sums of money then the players that have left since the end of the season like Emerson,Senderos major earners apart from Favalli all pretty useless.

Also the acquisition of Flamini in a already packed midfield also on big money when a position was already filled 3 times over in the midfield.

Major major bad running of this club for the last several years...and the lessons haven't been learnt from several key areas such as

1. Calciopoli...Galliani was involved and should have been shown the door when the club was found guilty, the man is incompetent and a liar.

2. The non qualification of last season C.L in which everyone could see in the last game of the previous seasons tournament how slow we were against Arsenal and how little we created and compare this against the absolute hammering we gave Man.Utd a couple of seasons previous.

3. The buying of "toy" players by Berlisconi players such as Ronaldo,Ronaldinho and latest Beckham...turning the club into a worldwide circus more interested in selling shirts than winning games.

4. Related to number 3 is the constant interference by Silvio in formation choice and player selection.

5. The vast amount of €'s invested in the academy and the refusual to play these players even in Coppa games.

All these thing have contributed to a slow decline which ends up in the unthinkable....we have to sell our best players to compensate for the overspending on bad decisions which unless something serious happens will just continue season after season until the fans become like fans from Naples....living on past glories and hoping one day maybe one day it will happen again!

Great post.

But I do think the Flamini deal was a good one.

Ambro and Rino have next season, but the one after that will probably be their last as starters. We need to start thinking about replacing these players.

And you forgot to mention mistakes like the co-ownership deals Galliani seems so fond of. I think we're losing around 10-15m a season on these sorts of deals. Look at what happened with Boriello.

Plus the Gourcuff mistake. Not only did they loan him with an option to buy, but they also couldn't gaurantee him playing time when they tried to convince him to come back!!! I mean what the hell??!!! They knew they were going to sell Kaka, so why in God's name would they tell him that he's not gauranteed a spot in the first 11???!!! Oh right so Seedorf can come on the field every Sunday and jog around for 90 minutes. This thing just leaves me baffled...

[mishie]

Great post.

But I do think the Flamini deal was a good one.

Ambro and Rino have next season, but the one after that will probably be their last as starters. We need to start thinking about replacing these players.

And you forgot to mention mistakes like the co-ownership deals Galliani seems so fond of. I think we're losing around 10-15m a season on these sorts of deals. Look at what happened with Boriello.

Plus the Groucuff mistake. Not only did they loan him with an option to buy, but they also couldn't gaurantee him playing time when they tried to convince him to come back!!! I mean what the hell??!!! They knew they were going to sell Kaka, so why in God's name would they tell him that he's not gauranteed a spot in the first 11???!!! Oh right so Seedorf can come on the field every Sunday and jog around for 90 minutes. This thing just leaves me baffled...

I see your point but what about the young Mathías Cardacio isn't he a player being groomed for that position..and yes i forgot about the countless €'s lost in co-ownership deals to

[han2503]

I see your point but what about the young Mathías Cardacio isn't he a player being groomed for that position..and yes i forgot about the countless €'s lost in co-ownership deals to

Personally I don't understand why he was bought in the first place. Personally I see real potential in both him and Viudez. They knew that Carlo would not give them a lot of playing time. Hopefully though they won't get sent out on loan, because if they do they'll get lost with all the other players we loaned out...

I think given the chance by Leo they could both shine next season, since we're going down the Arsenal route that is. Viudez is really skillful, and he's lightning quick with the ball at his feet. I think it was Tennie who commented about his performances in some U-21 competition, and he was really impressive.

Cardacio, I personally like a lot, he's great on the ball, he's always calm and collected, has a good passing range. He sometimes reminds me of Real's Gago, the way he moves around on the pitch.