[Fillipo Simone]

Anyway, friends of Milan, the club, like Maldini, Altafini, Rivera all agreed it's a bitter moment. Loosing a star player draws consequences. After the Berlusconi comment, I'm sure it's done. It's sad to part with our very best midfielder for years. A big thankyou is unquestionable.

What can we do? Life goes on.

[han2503]

Anyway, friends of Milan, the club, like Maldini, Altafini, Rivera all agreed it's a bitter moment. Loosing a star player draws consequences. After the Berlusconi comment, I'm sure it's done. It's sad to part with our very best midfielder for years. A big thankyou is unquestionable.

What can we do? Life goes on.

All i have to say is that this is a situation that we should not have come to. It's all on the management's heads. Should we struggle to make it to the CL or not even make it, we'll know who to blame.

Then we'll see who wants to come to a team that cannot even reach the top 4 and treats their players like garbage that only deserve to be pushed out the back door. If we don;t make the CL that money we get from the Kaka deal could used as toilet paper.

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 17 2009, 02:34 PM

[Rivaldo]

Next will be Pato....

Galliani and Berlusconi made Great Milan....fantastic Milan with lots of trophies< BUT....people remember them as those. who sold real love....

[A.X]

there must be really a very serious attack from fans tonight to convince everyone !

i think kaka have to score a goal tonight and kiss the ac milan budge then the fans will scream ... and i think have to proove in this game that he want to stay wid ac milan ...

[A.X]

Ronaldinho Begs Kaka To Stay At Milan

Ronaldinho is down on his knees, begging Kaka not to leave Milan for City...



Milan whiz Ronaldinho is begging Kaka to stay on at San Siro rather than sign a lucrative deal with Premier League side Manchester City.

'Dinho, who signed from Barcelona in the summer to link up with his Seleção teammate, is urging him to reject the Citizens. The Brazilian even insists that Kaka's move to City could end up costing his club plenty in terms of silverware.

He has issued one final call to Kaka asking him to stay, just as reports suggest Manchester City are on the verge of signing the Rossoneri midfielder in a deal worth over €150 million.

"Kaka, stay at Milan," Ronaldinho is quoted as saying in the Daily Star.

"Kaka's exit would be a disaster and we are desperate for him to stay so that we can win plenty of trophies.

"He is too important for us and he is the symbol of Milan. We want to get back into the Champions League and we need Kaka in order to do this."

For his part, Ronaldinho has been outstanding for Milan, but has been slapped with a three match ban in the Coppa Italia for his behaviour during the loss to Lazio last month.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

[Fillipo Simone]

All i have to say is that this is a situation that we should not have come to. It's all on the management's heads. Should we struggle to make it to the CL or not even make it, we'll know who to blame.

Then we'll see who wants to come to a team that cannot even reach the top 4 and treats their players like garbage that only deserve to be pushed out the back door. If we don;t make the CL that money we get from the Kaka deal could used as toilet paper.

I don't think it's treating them like garbage. It's just exaggeration. But be my guest. If you feel better, just scream - **** you, *******, garbage, sh@t, and call 'em names.

(EDIT: general statement, not adressed to you directly han - apologies if I made it look that way).

This post has been edited by Fillipo Simone: Jan 17 2009, 02:49 PM

[agenth]

well this is just torture. nthey should just admit that they are moneyhungry B******s. Seriously.

I don't care who THEY are (whether its silvio/galliani or the kaka clan)

but they just are destroying the whole team with this BS.

[han2503]

I don't think it's treating them like garbage. It's just exaggeration. But be my guest. If you feel better, just scream - **** you, *******, garbage, sh@t, and call 'em names.

(EDIT: general statement, not adressed to you directly han - apologies if I made it look that way).

I know you still stand on your pro management side, but I don;t understand how you could possibly still defend them after this. And yes they have treated Kaka like garbage, after he has done everything in the past to stay loyal to the club, even when we were involved in the whole calciopoli business and Real came knocking.

And now that an offer that they deam adequate has been recieved for him they don't find anything wrong with turning their back on the player and forcing him out to a club that he ABSOLUTELY does not want to join in exchange for money.

This is not what Kaka deserves after all he's done for the club. And like I said, I would greatly enjoy should Kaka refuse to sign for City then push his way out to Real in the summer for a lesser sum, I think that is something that our management should deserve after the way they've handled this. They talk about respect and values but they don't even know what either mean

[Fillipo Simone]

I'm not pro-management. I'm just a realist.

Kaka is going away, I'm not a Milanfan because of him so I'm staying and chearing for Milan.
I think it was a mistake selling him, but that's were my responsibility and power ends. I don't live near berlusconi, so I can't drop by and say "you'r wrong with this one". And I'm not gonna loose my temeper either, cause it brings to nothing.

[Tennie]

So, if the price of keeping Kaka were a 15m salary and discontent with the rest of the squad (which is how I read Berlusconi's statement), would it be worth it? That seems to me to be where Berlusconi isn't willing to go. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's at least understandable.

[TriniKing_CE]

Okay so I know I have been a bit busy with my new job and all, so I haven't been on MF recently *sigh* (the net at all for that matter). But during this time I had heard the rumors about Kaka and ManCity, just thinking it was usual transfer BS. Or atleast that it would turn out the way it usually does, until people started asking me how I was taking the whole thing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Completely confused and in disbelief I decided to come check up on what I had been missing out on in the past weeks.


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WHAT THE F*VK!!!!!!!!1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

If Milan really sell Kaka, I would be GREATLY disappointed in them!

Please let this all just be games with the media. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[han2503]

I'm not pro-management. I'm just a realist.

Kaka is going away, I'm not a Milanfan because of him so I'm staying and chearing for Milan.
I think it was a mistake selling him, but that's were my responsibility and power ends. I don't live near berlusconi, so I can't drop by and say "you'r wrong with this one". And I'm not gonna loose my temeper either, cause it brings to nothing.

I'm not saying I'm not going to cheer for Milan because at the end of the day they are the club I supprt. The management of the club is the problem here, like I said a million times, should they have turned down the offer like they have done in the past on multiple occasions then we would not be in this situation, plain and simple. It's as easy as that, the offer should have been rejected and none of these people would have come to play in this whole mess, Kaka has a contract with Milan, he's made it very obvious that he wants to stay.

What really angers me right now is the fact that he is being pushed out in exhange for money that cannot replace him in the team, both as a player and as a person, who I think is a great positive influence both in the dressing room and as a face of our team.

So, if the price of keeping Kaka were a 15m salary and discontent with the rest of the squad (which is how I read Berlusconi's statement), would it be worth it? That seems to me to be where Berlusconi isn't willing to go. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's at least understandable.

I think zd had the best response for your scenario Tennie. Kaka has a contract with Milan that should tie him down to 2013, that contract comes with a fixed salary that unles the club decides to renew the salary will stay as it is. Ad I'm pretty certain Kaka is not asking for that rediculous wage ammount, nor would he expect it, and the club would never offer to any player. He is happy with what he has with Milan which is a wage that is among the top in world football, fans who love him and well adjusted in the team.

Berlusconi is only saying what he wants people to here, he's not a billionaire and prime ministor for no good reason, he knows how to play with his words and feed people what he knows they want to hear.

If this had been rejected Kaka would have still been a Milan player with the same contract he has now, no bumper deals would have been made. And I;m pretty sure Kaka would not be expecting one. It's ridiculous to believe that selling Kaka would be for the good of the team, to me you're just picking at straws, trying to convince people of a positive in a sea of negative, a positive that doesn't even exist because this salary + team unrest is all BS.

Man City have no choice but to offer a player like Kaka that ammount of money because other then battling against relegation they have nothing else to offer him but the money.

WHAT THE F*VK!!!!!!!!1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

If Milan really sell Kaka, I would be GREATLY disappointed in them!

Please let this all just be games with the media. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Sadly it's not, if Milan sell Kaka it will not only be a disaster because we sell our best player, but it will be a disaster because everything that Milan stands for and what we love most about our club will be thrown down the drain along with my respect for the management.

I'm hoping so badly that the curva make their feelings known tonight.

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 17 2009, 03:22 PM

[acid911]

Please let this all just be games with the media.

I'm sorry, it's not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) After Berlusconi's comment, it's almost a done deal. Get ready for one last goodbye later tonight. At least we know it wasn't the player who betrayed us. We betrayed ourselves. Now, get ready for some over hyped player like Adebayor to join us.

[dst]

So, if the price of keeping Kaka were a 15m salary and discontent with the rest of the squad (which is how I read Berlusconi's statement), would it be worth it? That seems to me to be where Berlusconi isn't willing to go. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's at least understandable.

Berlusconi does not say that Kaka asked to leave unless they'd pay him as much as City offered. And of course he does not cause it would be a lie. Personally I will not believe whatever they tell us cause it's more than clear to me that Milan decided not to turn down the offer and let Kaka go when he would not have pushed to go.

The only question is do you think Milan did right or wrong to accept this massive offer?

My answer is not direct but it's quite clear; Milan are supporting a family image... but they also think that even a family has a price.

[Tennie]

Don't think there's much proof of anything yet, either that he's being pushed out or that he's not asking for a big raise to stay. If someone can provide a quote, please do so. We're still working on a lot of speculation.

Am I gutted that he's almost certainly leaving? Yes.