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Token Girl  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800  |
I still keep hoping forlornly that Cobolli Gigli and Secco have a massive brain freeze and we can grab Chiellini, but sadly I don't think that's going to happen.
Wouldn't mind Zapata. |
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Dec 6 2008, 03:06 AM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98  Group: Full Members Posts: 77 Joined: 4-December 08 Member No.: 6,044 |
Yeh an Italian-based Italian defender. The only Italian centre-back abroad who is of the required quality is Cannavaro, and he is too old.
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Dec 6 2008, 05:11 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 3,371 Joined: 30-October 05 Member No.: 782 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 6 2008, 01:20 AM)  I still keep hoping forlornly that Cobolli Gigli and Secco have a massive brain freeze and we can grab Chiellini, but sadly I don't think that's going to happen. Wouldn't mind Zapata. Secco is a dumbass, he will screw up soon. We should of nabbed Chiellieni when this idiot tried to offload him to him This post has been edited by whoarethepatriots: Dec 6 2008, 05:11 AM |
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Dec 6 2008, 02:34 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Interesting new rumor this morning. Apparently Braida is in Germany today to watch the Cottbus-Stuttgart game. He's apparently interested in observing Stuttgart's Serdar Tasci. Tasci is a defender (usually plays CB but sometimes as RB) who's played for the U21s and who has also gotten a few call ups for the senior NT.
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Dec 6 2008, 04:05 PM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 77 Joined: 4-December 08 Member No.: 6,044 |
Oh dear. Tasci has been poor for the national side from what I've seen of him. Buying a German defender is never a good idea in my book.
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Dec 6 2008, 04:57 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
+1
Seriously, I don't remember many great German defenders... |
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Dec 6 2008, 05:13 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 6 2008, 04:57 PM) +1 Seriously, I don't remember many great German defenders... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Brehme, Kohler, Buchwald, Berthold, Schwarzenbeck, Beckenbauer, Förster, Briegel, Sammer, Eilts, Breitner, Vogts....oh yes, they were all useless. |
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Dec 6 2008, 05:33 PM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 77 Joined: 4-December 08 Member No.: 6,044 |
Central defenders. Breitner and Brehme were full-backs.
The most recent on that list was Sammer/Kohler. So we're talking around 10 years ago. When was the last time a top German defender was produced? Matthäus was played in defence towards the end of his career, but only because he was too old to go in midfield. At the moment the first choice is any two from Mertesacker, Metzelder, Westermann (also a left-back) and Tasci. Not the best advert for German defenders. |
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Dec 6 2008, 05:54 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (Astafjevs @ Dec 6 2008, 05:33 PM) Central defenders. Breitner and Brehme were full-backs. The most recent on that list was Sammer/Kohler. So we're talking around 10 years ago. When was the last time a top German defender was produced? Matthäus was played in defence towards the end of his career, but only because he was too old to go in midfield. At the moment the first choice is any two from Mertesacker, Metzelder, Westermann (also a left-back) and Tasci. Not the best advert for German defenders. So were Briegel and Vogts. But no one said anything about central defenders. Plus, you said you wouldn't remember many great German defenders. So I mentioned some. And yes, we had some problems to produce solid CB since the era of Kohler and Sammer. But Mertesacker is OK and Tasci has some talent (but at this point he's definitely no improvement for Milan). Plus, there are some more talented kids who's names will be more famous soon like Commper, Hummels or Jaissle. |
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Dec 6 2008, 06:14 PM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 77 Joined: 4-December 08 Member No.: 6,044 |
Well we're only interested in acquiring a centre-back, so that's the position we're talking about. I didn't say I couldn't remember any great German defenders, I could have named all of those you listed. However, I'm more interested in the present. We're not going to be signing Franz Beckenbauer.
Unfortunately, the fact is over the past 20 years, great German centre-backs have been at a premium. You haven't produced a top-class one since Sammer/Kohler. |
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Dec 6 2008, 06:21 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 6 2008, 04:57 PM) +1 Seriously, I don't remember many great German defenders... Not true really. Like LaPalma said. I'd add Markus Babbel, Christian Wörns, Thomas Linke, Olaf Thon or Stefan Reuter (also DM) as some recent-active players (wan't Jörg Henirich also a CB and a DM?). I agree, nowdays a gap happened. But that's just normal. For the next WC there could merge some new potential stars. In fact, the best alltime defenders from Europe IMO come from Italy and Germany (in that order). Germany had, since 1998 many problems in the attack. Even in 2002, when they scored 8 goals against the Saudi's they didn't convince totally. Rudi Völler tried many things, but...at that time a striker gap happened. Bobic, Kirsten, Bierhoff, Jancker and some others were near their retirement and youngsters were hardly found, exemptional was Lukas Podolski. And look now! Isn't Germany really good covered in that departement? Just in a few years everything changed and now Jogi can afford the luxury of throwing out Kuranyi (who I honestly dislike). So, I'm very optimistic when it comes to German defenders. |
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Dec 6 2008, 07:35 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
http://www.goal.com/en/news/723/serie-a/20...-ronaldo--agent
we mite go for r99 again according to his agent i still prefer this guy to many other stiker if he is fit |
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Dec 6 2008, 07:56 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I know some of the guys here would be thrilled...
I'd go for it. He deserves a thicker Milan-record. |
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Dec 6 2008, 08:10 PM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 77 Joined: 4-December 08 Member No.: 6,044 |
It would be a completely pointless signing. He can't stay fit for 5 minutes.
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Dec 6 2008, 08:28 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
well that is the thing if he seems fit then lets go for him he could be a real gud addition the second thing would be our formation we prefer one stiker so getting a stiker for the same system no use
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