[Bluesummers]

there is cardaccio/darmian/antonini that need to be added to the list

[vnata001]

**BIG POST ALERT** (similar to the one in the kaka thread)

Flamini will cover for us when Gattuso is slow and ineffective and Ambro is playing averagely. His steady play will also allow Cardaccio time to grow into his own as a player, and not see minutes at unfair times like 0-0 vs. celtic like Yoann was shown, but maybe more like only once we're up 3-0 against Lazio, and then as he gains confidence make him more important. Flamini will also allow time for Emerson to recover to his near-best and potentially contribute at some moments this season without being off-form when he's needed. - We all know how Carlo loves his Defensive Midfielders. Lets not forget he is a really underrated passer and provides cover for Pirlo if necessary.

Our attacking midfield is deep as well by acquiring Dinho and Viudez. Now we have a pecking order. 1. Kaka 1. Dinho 1. Seedorf 4. Viudez

The three provide mutual cover for eachother in case of injury. Viudez has a short list of the greatest ever to learn from. I personally could not envy a young player more than i envy Viudez. He's got time on his hands and 3 of the best ever as his mentors. Viudez has a nice learning curve, but he's no slouch either and could be quite a talent sooner than later.

Pato is only going to be better than the last time we saw him, which means he can easily get 15+...Borriello beats having pathetic Gila..Pippo is Pippo...Promising Palo.

We're Scudetto Deep. Our striking department MAY have a question mark lingering over its head, but the potential is there for lots of world class goals from them. Not to mention the AT LEAST 20 that Kaka/Dinho/Seedorf will get.

We are more than covered on the wings. Zambro/Oddo on the right. Janku/Antonini/Fav on the left. AND Zambro AND Antonini can play either position competently. AND so can Il Capitano.

In Defense we need a new cornerstone defender. One to play with/learn from Nesta and then replace him seamlessly so we don't suffer when he's past it/his body breaks down.

[Zed.D]

I personally consider Pippo a bonus rather then a squad member.

+1

[han2503]

I do not think it is serious at all and I think Galliani is a good man. Pippo, Borriello, Pato and Paloschi are all strikers. We have four strikers, though I would have liked to see Paloschi loaned out and Milan getting a more experienced striker.

But our strike force is fully capable. In fact, it's very coherent.

Look at it this way, we have Pippo, Pato, Boriello and Paloschi as strikers.

Pippo will be out for 3/4 of the season, this thigh strain is not serious and he'll probably be ready in a week or 2, but then he goes out in training and get another strain and the cycle will repeat itself throughout the entire season just like it has for these last 3-4 years. Pippo as far as fitness goes is not reliable, that's why I say that he's a bonus rather then a squad player, too bad Galliani doesn;t consider him as such because without getting decent cover for him we'll be left with one man down for nearly the entire season.

Pato, we don't know how he'll perform, he might not start scoring immediately, or as we saw last season he can also get injured. Not to mention that he is still young and imo it's unfair to rest all the goal scoring responsability on his shoulders.

Boriello, I'm personally not convinced by him, and bringing him back was a mistake, especially when just a season ago we wanted to get rid of him desperately, and then paying 10m to get him back. Not to mention, he's been given chances to prove himself at Milan in the past but never did anything good with those chancs. He's a player that will do will for a mid table team like Genoa but won't do well for a big club like Milan

Paloschi, is young and inexperianced and you can' seriously believe that we can rely on him.

In this department we are not well covered and it might prove to come back and bite us in the @ss in the long run.

[dst]

We all know how Carlo loves his Defensive Midfielders.

Our attacking midfield is deep as well by acquiring Dinho and Viudez. Now we have a pecking order. 1. Kaka 1. Dinho 1. Seedorf 4. Viudez

Yeah unfortunately we do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I'd be surprised if Viudez stayed with the senior squad.

[Giancarlo]

Look at it this way, we have Pippo, Pato, Boriello and Paloschi as strikers.

Pippo will be out for 3/4 of the season, this thigh strain is not serious and he'll probably be ready in a week or 2, but then he goes out in training and get another strain and the cycle will repeat itself throughout the entire season just like it has for these last 3-4 years. Pippo as far as fitness goes is not reliable, that's why I say that he's a bonus rather then a squad player, too bad Galliani doesn;t consider him as such because without getting decent cover for him we'll be left with one man down for nearly the entire season.

I don't think we really agree on anything... so I'll just I agree to disagree. I think Pippo will be fine for most of the season. He may be out for a few games, but I'm sure he can play a good 70% of them. We have enough cover for him. We have more than enough depth and I agree with Galliani.

Pato, we don't know how he'll perform, he might not start scoring immediately, or as we saw last season he can also get injured. Not to mention that he is still young and imo it's unfair to rest all the goal scoring responsability on his shoulders.

That was a minor injury and nothing major. I'm not saying put all the goal scoring responsibility on his shoulders. I'm saying give the kid a chance.

Boriello, I'm personally not convinced by him, and bringing him back was a mistake, especially when just a season ago we wanted to get rid of him desperately, and then paying 10m to get him back. Not to mention, he's been given chances to prove himself at Milan in the past but never did anything good with those chancs. He's a player that will do will for a mid table team like Genoa but won't do well for a big club like Milan

He found his stride and I think he's a perfectly capable striker. I think it was wise we gave him another chance... again some would say it was a gamble, but I think it was a good idea.

Paloschi, is young and inexperianced and you can' seriously believe that we can rely on him.

In this department we are not well covered and it might prove to come back and bite us in the @ss in the long run.

I totally disagree with you. I think Paloschi has been getting experience quite a bit... he took part in a major tournament for The U-19 Italian national team.

I tihnk we are well covered. I'd like one more striker, but as it stands I think we're completely covered in that. And I don't think it will cause any problems either. Remember Ronaldinho can play as a striker (and he often did for Barcelona).

We don't rely on the strikers to score all the goals like other teams. Our midfielders do a lot of that too.

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 23 2008, 05:20 PM

[han2503]

I don't think we really agree on anything... so I'll just I agree to disagree. I think Pippo will be fine for most of the season. He may be out for a few games, but I'm sure he can play a good 70% of them. We have enough cover for him. We have more than enough depth and I agree with Galliani.

Well I do agree that Pippo's strain is fairly minor. He's been out for the entire pre-season and played something like 73 minutes in all and already he's out again. You might choose to be optimistic and I admire that but, looking at Pippo's age and past history with injuries I'm personally pretty certain that he will be out for 75% of the entire season with little bothersome strains here and there.

Like you said we should agree to disagree on this issue, and personally I hope you are the one in the right because Pippo being fit for 70% of our season would be a huge boost, but the realist in me can't see him feature for more then MAX 15 games, because of being out through injury. And imo that's a huge blow when that striker is relied upon because there is no other alternative

That was a minor injury and nothing major. I'm not saying put all the goal scoring responsibility on his shoulders. I'm saying give the kid a chance.

I'm personally willing to give him more then a chance, Pato has my full support and I would love nothing more then to see him scoring 20+ goals for us this season. But you have to take into account his age and the responsabilities being put onto him. Last season he got more more then one injury, he's a player that will get tackled a lot so you can't really rule out any injuries for certain.

He found his stride and I think he's a perfectly capable striker. I think it was wise we gave him another chance... again some would say it was a gamble, but I think it was a good idea.

The whole gamble thing with Ronaldinho I personally agree with you that Ronaldinho, even though some say he is a gamble, a player with that much talent for the price we got him, is not a gamble but a good deal. But Boriello is definately not, I have been personally been against it from day 1, why would we buy a player that just a season ago we were desperate to get rid of and then buy him back again??? Boriello has never done anything good for Milan and it's not like he's never been given the chance in the past. If he proves me wrong then I'm all for it, since him proving me wrong is for the good of the team and I'm all for that. But I just don't see it happening.

I totally disagree with you. I think Paloschi has been getting experience quite a bit... he took part in a major tournament for The U-19 Italian national team.

Paloschi is good to have as a back up and I would like to see him getting the games he deserves, but relying on him for the Serie A in case we encounter a major striker shortage? No I don't think it would be a wise decision.

I tihnk we are well covered. I'd like one more striker, but as it stands I think we're completely covered in that. And I don't think it will cause any problems either. Remember Ronaldinho can play as a striker (and he often did for Barcelona).

We don't rely on the strikers to score all the goals like other teams. Our midfielders do a lot of that too.

Well Kaka and R10 can both slot in as supporting forwards, but we only have Pippo and Boriello that are pure strikers, so if anything happens to those 2 we have no cover since neither Pato, Kaka or Ronaldinho can play as box strikers, they all like to drop deep.

To rely on our midfield for goals, is a bit of a risk, it depends on what type of form Pirlo, Seedorf and R10 will be in. R10 might also take a bit to get his footing, let's not forget this is a new league to him, one that is very different from La Liga

[Giancarlo]

Well I do agree that Pippo's strain is fairly minor. He's been out for the entire pre-season and played something like 73 minutes in all and already he's out again. You might choose to be optimistic and I admire that but, looking at Pippo's age and past history with injuries I'm personally pretty certain that he will be out for 75% of the entire season with little bothersome strains here and there.

Like you said we should agree to disagree on this issue, and personally I hope you are the one in the right because Pippo being fit for 70% of our season would be a huge boost, but the realist in me can't see him feature for more then MAX 15 games, because of being out through injury. And imo that's a huge blow when that striker is relied upon because there is no other alternative

I think he's past most of his injuries. Anyways, this thread is for another issue and I don't really want to take this off topic.

I think we agree on a variety of issues, but there are some differences we have. I'm sure we will get another striker the next transfer season, but Ronaldinho can play as a striker and for a great deal at Barcelona he more than often did.

[han2503]

I think he's past most of his injuries. Anyways, this thread is for another issue and I don't really want to take this off topic.

I think we agree on a variety of issues, but there are some differences we have. I'm sure we will get another striker the next transfer season, but Ronaldinho can play as a striker and for a great deal at Barcelona he more than often did.

Agreed


As for R10, he didn't exactly play as a striker, during his best years at Barca he was played out wide on the left, with Eto'o in the middle and Guily or Messi wide right. And yes he can play as a supporting forward, but definately not as an out and out striker

[misha]

Darmian impressed me in those games. He's young but played maturely and he definitely has the talent to do well. Would love to see more from him, though I'm not sure if Carlo will give him enough chances this season.