[han2503]

^^

Wow, look at that monster!

Jesus H Christ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Look at the size of that thing!

Why thankyou (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hemademe.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hemademe.gif)

[armiss]

SO i think there is more than 2 hours

[han2503]

SO i think there is more than 2 hours

2 1/2 hours to go for kick-off

[Tennie]

han, I think you've impressed us all with the prodigious size of your....post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/trenchcoat.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Piranha is still flashing us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Mook]

Brilliant post han, right on the mark.

So anyone think we'll actually score tonight.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Giancarlo]

All I actually see from this post is that you're not even reading what I'm saying. When exactly were Seedorf and Kaka listed as forwards? Middle of 06/07 season when we were so short on strikers that Galliani started referring to both players as such. You should be the one to get your facts straight. Seedorf had his best seasons here while playing in the midfield 3 next to Pirlo and Gattuso he was never an attacking mid and if you remember correctly he failed at Inter when he was played in that position. And Seedorf in these last 2 years besides some great games in the CL against Man U and Bayern has always been mediocre in that position.

You went through everything and must have the last word on everything can't you? Seriously, Seedorf and Kaka as I said are attacking midfielder. But that's something you simply ignored. I've seen mistakes on the official website (like the identification of Viudez and Cardacio). I do have my facts correct. I frankly don't care what Galliani says. It comes down to Ancelotti and how he uses them on the field. Seedorf is quite a great player and has contributed greatly to Milan. But now we have several other attacking midfielders.

Galliani has lost out on numerous transfer is the past so don't think he's the master of the transfer market, let's not forget the Ibra, Suazo and Zambrotta cases that have happened in the recent past. And Galliani has been feeding the fans BS for these last 3 years. Like I said, he's comfirmed HIMSELF that Milan will not make anymore transfers and for the defence we have Ambrosini who can play there and next thing you'll see is Ambrosini being listed as a defender on the official site. Like I said Galliani thinks that fans are stupid enough to fall for his cr@p but the facts are that Seedorf is not a forward and neither is Ambrosini is a defender

This is just inaccurate. I'm not talking about the past, I'm talking about now. The biggest story of this transfer season is Flamini, and how Juventus wanted him badly. Galliani is not feeding anyone BS. He may have his way with words, but I'm going to defend him to till the last day, because he is getting us results this transfer season. And your words seem like the are recycled from Goal.com. I think you're just you're not paying attention to the reality. Galliani is one I'll defend because I can look at the results of the transfer season. Ambrosini is not going to become a defender, because like it or not, we will have to look for another player... especially IF Simic does get sold.

We conceeded easy goals from set pieaces or mistakes in defence that should never happen because we don't have enough quality center backs unless Nesta is there. And on top of that we were not scoring gaols, that is why we were so far behind. And the fact that we were the best team after the winter break does not matter since in the end we are still in the UEFA Cup.

We were behind because of the first half of last season, the second half we had one of the best point averages compared to other top teams.

You're still NOT paying attention to the facts.

We played a lop-sided formation with players out of their usual formation. This is not going to go down well for the players.

It's not about the friendly, it's about showing us how the defence does not have enough quality to play against a top quality team. Stop thinking about the friendly as just a meaningless game that we play for nothing it's about preparing for the new season and showing where we have work to do and it's clear that the defence is not working at all, which IS in fact a worrying factor going into the new season!!!

Again this is just rubbish. For one, it shows nothing because we played a lop-sided formation with players out of their usual positions. And besides that, I'm going to think whatever way I want. It was totally downright meaningless and if it was up to me, I wouldn't risk players for useless games like this. Merda has been hit by injuries because of friendly games since they take them so seriously, and it's worrying that people like yourself are going to put much into one. We lost a friendly game just like this in 2003, 5-1... who cares? We moved on and obviously did a lot since then. You cannot take the assumptions of one game where you had defenders playing as midfielders and say it is an indication of what is to come.

What we need on the field is inspiration. Ronaldinho, Pato... these players usually contributed to it.

Regardless, the Milan-Chelsea game had one other flaw. If we had these attacking players they would hold possession more and reduce pressure off the defense.

So yes in my eyes it is a stupid meaningless game.


I've never gone overboard here. I'm talking like an adult. I just simply don't think you have your ideas correct and I think you are basing too much on a friendly where most of our players looked liked they were on vacation. That can be easily changed with a lot of training. Chelsea had two weeks of training ahead of us and played in more friendly games then we did. How am I not partaking in an adult debate? If you look how you put some of your points you'd really have to think otherwise.

Again we were playing a lop-sided formation with no attackers who would hold possession. And most of our players were on vacation... the game IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ANYTHING AT ALL. And you can't prove otherwise. Seriously, I've seen teams do absolute rubbish in friendly season and be unstoppable in the domestic tournament. It shows that they DO NOT care about friendly games as much as you.

Chelsea were only a week and a half before us in their preparations. Kaladze was never good enough and he showed that again against Chelsea where he gifted Anelka 2 goals after coming in. And he never steps up in big games, he just always has Nesta covering for his mistakes. And what does getting another defender have to do with Kaladze improving from being cr@p?

This is incorrect. He does step up for big games, and getting another defender would put more pressure on him to perform so he's not dropped. Chelsea had several weeks and were playing friendly games in other parts of the world. Look at the facts.

We faced Juve in the TIM Cup where again we conceeded to rediculous goals from easy crosses. How does this not raise concerns for you I do not understand

We would have not conceded either of those if it wasn't for the ridiculous goalkeeping. You simply can't make your points correctly.

You're saying that I don't have any proof that Milan won't be buying anyone else, well I have read a lot of statement coming from the man that you respect so highly and from our coach that Milan won't be buying anyone else, while you are mentioning Goal.com for god's sakes as proof that Milan will be buying Ivanovic. Goal.com have been proven on more then one occasion that they are not reliable.

This was recycled rubbish. We said after Ronaldinho we wouldn't buy anyone else.. so who is Viudez and Cardacio? Both are included in the senior team. I didn't mention goal.com for proof that we will be buying Ivanovic. I mentioned Channel4 and Gazzetta. You're the one basing your opinions on goal.com.

A good goalkeeper would have only prevented 2 of those goals, the others he could do nothing about since the defenders made it too easy

Bold statement... little proof.

And you can't even take into account the fact that we had the entire defence there except for Nesta but still managed to conceed 5 goals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm not taking into account anything you say because it's simply not accurate. We played a lop-sided formation and you still cannot take that into account.

Again, quating Goal.com? NOT a good source (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm telling you that we're not buying anyone else based on the hundreds of times that Galliani HIMSELF has come out in the media and stated that Milan won't be buying anyone else. While you're getting your facts from rumours reported by Goal.com

I've seen this rumor on other websites. I don't care what you say because I know it is not reality. Galliani says a lot of things... like how Man City were the ones in favor to get Ronaldinho and how we wouldn't get them. You're basing your statements on what exactly?

I'm not getting my facts from rumors reported by goal.com. And when there is a rumor I state it is a rumor. It may not happen at the end of the day.

But when there are facts I use other websites in particular Tuttomercatoweb, Channel4, Gazzetta and so forth.

You've used nothing.

[Tennie]

Okay, guys.

ENOUGH OFF TOPIC BICKERING

If you want to continue, take it to private messages. Anything else put up here will be deleted.

[Rossoneri7]

Damn .. How people join in and dive head in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Keep something for the coming season guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Aug 9 2008, 04:40 PM

[Nova]

10 minutes to start

[Tennie]

This one's not being televised in the US. Could those of you who ARE able to watch provide lots of details? The fish doll would be grateful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

EDIT: (From acmilan.com's italian page)

Here are the lineups

MANCHESTER CITY-MILAN: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
09/08/2008
MANCHESTER CITY: Hart; Onuoha, Richards, Ben Haim, Garrido; Petrov, Fernandes, Johnson; Elano, Vassell, Bojinov.
MILAN: Dida; Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Flamini, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Paloschi.

(Did I actually guess the lineup correctly? Gosh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) )

This post has been edited by Tennie: Aug 9 2008, 05:08 PM

[Rossoneri7]

10 minutes to start

Are you watching this nova ?

[Nova]

Are you watching this nova ?

hell yeah !!

[jefri91]

I cant find any working streams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

hell yeah !!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Lets go !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)