[dst]

I will just voice my opinion

And that's cause you've learned to appraise and be grateful, two things some people are not even aware of...

SO LONG!

[han2503]

Well, I believe last season everyone was saying the same thing you are saying, no service. But then Ronaldo came and all the sudden, there is service! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I think you are only making excuses for him. He lost great chances, he messed up everything that came his way, his half-assed "1-2s" were painful to watch. He stumbled on the ball and fell AGAIN today with no one around him and I could only laugh. He really makes the midfield not wanna pass to him. Have you not seen Kaka and how frustrated he gets with him?

When Ronaldo was playing next to him Gila scored so I don't see where the point comes from that. As I said, other then the 2 chances that he got in the first 5 minutes that where well saved by the keeper he had nothing going for him. Neither did Inzaghi in the second half until the team actually started playing for the last ten minutes.

Yes against Fiorentina it was his fault and I even commented on how terrible he was against them, but today I can't see how not scoring was his fault when the midfield wasn't providing anything

Not his fault (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ...

If a 34 year old Inzaghi tried on several occasion in the second half to score, the 25 year old Gilardino did nothing throughout the 90 mins! Yeah it wasn't his fault that he is not worthy of playing for Milan.

Pippo is just Pippo, always right place at the right time, but if you noticed his chances only came in the last 10 minutes when the team actuall STARTED PLAYING, he was on the pitch for 30 minutes before that and didn't do anyhting because he was also isolated by the lack of service from the midfield

[Jack Sparrow]

SO LONG!

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night...
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight...
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu...
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu...
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye...
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!...
I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie...
I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly...
The sun has gone to bed and so must I...
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye...

Hope y'all enjoyed my karaoke...g'nite peeps...

[Zed.D]

wow... incredible. i had never seen a milan so week, so disable and so pathetic in months!

i hope we put this result behind us and think about the future... the future that doesn't look so bright in the league for us.

anyway, i think from now on, gila must fight to prevent being kicked out of milan in january, because he already has lost his place to pato.

[whoarethepatriot...]

Pato will certainly change the way we play. It's crucial to play with a forward and a striker together. Otherwise it will be the same story.

Yeah, Gila is ineffective as the lone striker as he does not have the qualities needed for the role. He had two chances which required some top notch goalkeeping so he wasnt as bad as people make him out to be. He did disappear after that though. I am interested in what peoples reactions to an Inzaghi dry patch is going to be, he will eventually stop scoring but i am interested to see if you people bash him, or still support him, only because of past glories, something which Gila does not have so he is constantly mocked for being useless

I think Berlusconi blocking the Transfers of Toni and reportedly Ribery may come back to haunt us, They would have added depth which we need

[misha]

Serie A Week 3 - 15/9/07 (17.00 UK) 
Siena 1 - 1 Milan
Maccarone 25 (S), Nesta 91 (M)
Stadio Franchi Montepaschi

Milan fought back for a 1-1 draw at Siena with Alessandro Nesta's volley after a truly comical Dumb & Dumber moment from Nelson Dida and Kakha Kaladze.

This was the first match played since the stadium was renamed the Stadio Artemio Franchi Arena Montepaschi, bringing in the name of the club sponsor.

The Rossoneri were preparing for their Champions League opener with Benfica, so left Kaka, Andrea Pirlo, Massimo Oddo and the injured Ronaldo behind, giving Emerson his first start for the club. Last season this fixture ended 4-3 for the visitors and Siena feared a repeat, as they had lost both their Serie A games so far this term with one goal in favour and five against. Argentine defender Leandro Grimi got to face the club that still owns his contract.

Milan were clearly in a hurry to secure the points and almost scored after 24 seconds when Dimitrios Eleftheropoulos parried an Alberto Gilardino left-foot volley set up by Emerson.

From the resulting corner kick, Clarence Seedorf's cross found the head of Gilardino for another decisive save, this time with Eleftheropolous' feet.

Yet Siena slowly got into the game as well and on 13 minutes had an excellent scoring opportunity. Daniele Galloppa dribbled past three players on the left flank and only a splendid Nelson Dida reaction save prevented him smashing a left-foot shot in at the near post.

It was Siena who took the lead in comical circumstances with Milan's version of Dumb & Dumber. Dida fumbled a timid Cristian Bucchi effort and Kakha Kaladze was ready to clear, but he too tripped up over the ball and left it for Massimo Maccarone's close-range finish. However, replays suggest the former Middlesbrough man was clearly offside.

Paolo De Ceglie also dummied the confused Kaladze soon after to fire over the bar, while Seedorf should have done better with his lob. On 33 minutes Marcos Cafu sprung the offside trap down the right and only some desperate defending in the six-yard box prevented him from netting.

Maccarone charged down the right past Giuseppe Favalli and Dida parried his powerful low drive with an outstretched foot. Then Bucchi's shot took a deflection and skimmed the head of Simone Loria.

Yoann Gourcuff's attempt was smothered by Eleftheropoulos, as was a Seedorf piledriver towards the base of the near post.

Pippo Inzaghi was introduced at half-time for Gennaro Gattuso and immediately tried to turn his marker only to be closed down by a crowd of defensive bodies. Marek Jankulovski also came on for the slow and disappointing Giuseppe Favalli.

The Rossoneri were visibly lacking in concentration, especially in defence, as another Kaladze error handed Jarolim a great chance that dipped inches over the bar.

Milan's first real chance of the second half came after 23 minutes, as Eleftheropoulos bravely came out low to grab Seedorf's pass off Inzaghi's feet, but in doing so was accidentally kicked in the head.

Substitute Massimo Ambrosini's header from a set-piece was denied by a Jarolim goalline clearance.

Seedorf was tripped in the D and curled the free kick on to the roof of the net, grazing the crossbar.

It all seemed to be dragging towards a 1-0 result when in stoppages Grimi hacked down Seedorf. The free kick was floated into the centre where De Ceglie's scuffed clearance fell straight to Alessandro Nesta for a splendid volley under the bar.

The game sprung to life and 60 seconds later Mario Frick mistimed his tackle from behind to stop Seedorf's counter-attack and was shown a straight red card.

In the final minute Cristian Brocchi was brought down in a similar position to the goal for another free kick that Seedorf smashed on to the underside of the crossbar! It bounced off the line and back out again, but did not cross over.

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Siena: Eleftheropoulos; Rossettini, Portanova, Loria; Grimi; Jarolim (Codrea 88), Vergassola, Galloppa; De Ceglie, Maccarone (Corvia 74), Bucchi (Frick 55)

Milan: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli (Jankulovski 61); Gattuso (Inzaghi 46), Emerson (Ambrosini 65), Brocchi; Gourcuff, Seedorf; Gilardino

Ref: Banti

Sent off: Frick 92 (S)

[Fillipo Simone]

Okay, we've lost 2 points. Still, nothing is over. I hope we've learned something out of this one. As I said many times before, our midfield needs help and depth, and Gourcuff is not the answer. He is a guy exactly for Milan, but for Milans future. Now, we need some extra creativity. We don't have any alternative to Kaka and Pirlo - and, which makes the story even worse, we lack of wingers who could pull out some help. If we can't go through the middle, at least our wing player, and that means LB's and RB's could fead Gila with crosses. But that also can't work, cause they are either to old or not offensively wise. So that leaves us to a big nothing.

This was all about resting Pirlo and Kaka. But what when they get, God help that won't be the case, injuried and have to stay out for weeks?? What then to do?

Seriously, all these questions are rather matters for the future. Right now, we still can handle the situation elegantly. We await Ronaldo and Pato, and have a winter transfer period ahead. I'm positive our board will eventually see that we need one more midfielder, or a substitution for Gila. Gilardino, IMO, has a few months more left here with us. His time is ticking away, and only a dozen goals could save him,...

Right now, we should concentrate. I'm very happy our first poor results happened so early in the season, so that we have the time to take neccessary steps. Every great team starts slowly and then builds their form step by step. Only mid teams with ambitions start with big results, but loose themself after 10 fixtures. Our form can only go up, that is pretty sure cause we have the best team and the best coach. So this Siena match does not cause any trouble, yet,...

[misha]

^^ Good post Fillipo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

We played average and should have won the game but we were very unlucky as elef decided to play like petr cech against us. I would never say this under normal circumstances but i think we played allright with the team we fielded. Im not going to blame gila this time as our formation doesn't work without pirlo. No one in our midfield is even close to "good enough" to create a nice ball for the forwards. Kaka comes close, but other than that no one else can create anything. Gourcuff in maybe a few years. CL i say we field our traditional and see if gila can do anything. I give gila: 6 rating this game. So keep your bashing for gila till next week when he has some support.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Sep 15 2007, 10:59 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

^^ Good post Fillipo  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Right now, we need some optimism, and I hope the Benfica match will become ground for that.

Btw., Elef was our keeper, wasn't he?

[Nova]

You know , i'm not angry about the stupid goal conceded. But i was shocked by our 90min performance.

Ok , Dida & kala made a horrible mistake.

But i said it once and im saying it again. GILARDINO WTF ???

You could see gourcuff running all around the pitch trying to steal a ball , even inzaghi was running . And there he was just waiting for the ball to come to him , gilardino.

I'm out of words , i really cant see why he is playing at a professional club like Milan , it's not fair for every young player 100 times better then him trying to find a club . and there he is keeping the defenders & the keeper busy (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Get a grib milan !! losing points like this will cost you the scudetto.

Forza Milan !!

[Tennie]

Here are Datasport's ratings:

MILAN
Dida 5 - Compie un mezzo miracolo sulla sventola di Galloppa e si ripete nel finale di tempo su Maccarone, ma l’incertezza che costa il gol e` evidente.
Kaladze 4.5 - Incredibile il liscio che spalanca la porta a Maccarone in occasione del gol. L`errore che condiziona il suo rendimento.
Cafu 6 - Il `pendolino` spinge sulla fascia soprattutto nella ripresa, ma neanche in difesa si risparmia.
Favalli 5 - Soffre tremendamente la dinamicita` di Maccarone. Poco presente anche in fase di spinta. Da rivedere.
Nesta 7 - Tra i migliori della difesa, si propone sovente per innescare l’azione. Realizza un gol da bomber che tiene a galla i rossoneri.
Jankulovski 5.5 - Il suo ingresso non e` determinante. La sua falcata non decolla. Si becca anche l`ammonizione.
Gourcuff 6 - In avvio di partita regala un assist pregevole sprecato da Gilardino. E` tra i pochi con qualche idea in mezzo al campo. Cala nel finale.
Ambrosini 6 - Da` una mano nella mezz`ora finale quando gli assalti dei rossoneri si intensificano.
Seedorf 6.5 - Provengono dai suoi piedi le poche occasioni create dal Milan. Strepitoso sui calci piazzati.
Gattuso 6 - Grintosa prova in mezzo al campo. Poca brillantezza ma solita sostanza. Esce per scelta tattica.
Brocchi 6 - Muscoli e grinta a centrocampo. Pecca talvolta in fase di costruzione, ma lotta sempre con il coltello tra i denti.
Emerson 5.5 - Si sveglia tardivamente, poi comincia a recuperare palloni a centrocampo. Ma in fase di impostazione non convince.
Gilardino 5 - Dopo due minuti ha la palla buona per fare centro, ma manda a lato. Sbaglia diversi appoggi. Il momento buio continua.
Inzaghi 5.5 - La sua presenza mette maggiore apprensione alla difesa senese, ma non riesce a incidere. Tranne , involontariamente, la testa di Eleftheropoulos.

[misha]

Btw., Elef was our keeper, wasn't he?

Yep, for a year. But he never played a game for us, if I remember correctly.

BTW I'm watching the Milan - Ajax game from the 02-03 season on the sport classic channel. Sheva (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Yep, for a year. But he never played a game for us, if I remember correctly.

BTW I'm watching the Milan - Ajax game from the 02-03 season on the sport classic channel. Sheva  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Right now I would be satisfied with Jan D. Tomasson as well,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Pippo is just Pippo, always right place at the right time, but if you noticed his chances only came in the last 10 minutes when the team actuall STARTED PLAYING, he was on the pitch for 30 minutes before that and didn't do anyhting because he was also isolated by the lack of service from the midfield

Yes they only started getting into gear at around the 70th minute ... But still, those chances that Pippo got, Gila should have gotten double. That is why I say he isn't Milan quality. A Milan striker doesn't need more than two or three chances on goal. With Gila, he seems to find an exception to that rule, he doesn't seem to find any chances ..

I really feel sorry for Gilardino, if he doesn't score soon, things will start getting ugly. Like his imminent sale at the end of the season for instance. I mean if Pato can deliver, Gila will be shown the back door of Milanello.