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Jun 7 2007, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 6 2007, 09:26 PM) It's not that I don't like Gilardino, it's that he gets on my nerves everytime he gets a clean break then blows it (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I always reiterated that if he wears the Milan shirt, I will support him. But if I was to consider swapping him for an alternative ?? Then yeah, in a heart beat .. Even if we are playing on multiple fronts (loads of games), we need someone who can tuck it in between the goal posts up front. p.s. I rate Oli even lower than Gilardino. It isn't about who I like and who I don't. I just said that Oli seems satisfied on the bench (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) That is what I meant, bringing him into the discussion, someone who can play second fiddle. The only problem is that Gila knows well enough how to 'tuck them in' that's why I would keep him in a heart beat, especially for Serie A matches. If we do sell him then he WILL have to be replaced, Oli does not cut it. And can you suggest anyone who is in Gila's age bracket with his scoring credentials in Serie A? (btw, this is not to patronize you, just to ask you a legit question, who could theoratically replace him) And on the Oli issue, how long do you think he will accept playing second fiddle? And with the wages we pay him, better to just sell him rather then letting him rot on the bench, really not worth it
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Jun 7 2007, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:14 AM) The only problem is that Gila knows well enough how to 'tuck them in' that's why I would keep him in a heart beat, especially for Serie A matches. If we do sell him then he WILL have to be replaced, Oli does not cut it. And can you suggest anyone who is in Gila's age bracket with his scoring credentials in Serie A? (btw, this is not to patronize you, just to ask you a legit question, who could theoratically replace him)And on the Oli issue, how long do you think he will accept playing second fiddle? And with the wages we pay him, better to just sell him rather then letting him rot on the bench, really not worth it I hate u for letting me say his name !! ZLatan !!!
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Jun 7 2007, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 7 2007, 01:19 AM) I hate u for letting me say his name !! ZLatan !!! IF Zlatan where to come then it wouldn't be as a replacement for Gila but the (and I hate YOU for making me say this too) World class forward we were promised.
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Jun 7 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 7 2007, 12:59 PM) IF Zlatan where to come then it wouldn't be as a replacement for Gila but the (and I hate YOU for making me say this too) World class forward we were promised. In anycase, u asked for someone in the same age bracket .. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Look han, u like Gila .. Ok that is fine by me, I don't mind ... It is just that he hasn't done much to prove himself a worthy Milan player to Galliani and co (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It isn't me or u that Gila has to impress, it is the management and coaching staff. For two seasons Gila has produced scraps ... First season, we all gave him a break (as fans, on milanfan) .. Second season, he didn't have any sort of competition for first team football, and Carlo started him most of the time (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As a striker, this season, he has the most minutes on the pitch (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) But has he made an impact ?! I mean, next season R99 will be 110% fit for Milan .. Then we have a super star coming in (have it R10 or Eto'o..) .. With those two world class options, Inzaghi and Oliveira are on the bench. Now, where exactly is Gilardino supposed to fit ?! Even if Milan ends up keeping him, when is he gonna play ?! Against Siena and Coppa games ?! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) His wage is too BIG for a fringe player. I don't mind him staying, believe me I have nothing against Gilardino. But I doubt Carlo will depend on him next season, as much as he has this past two seasons (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 8 2007, 07:18 AM
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^^^^^
Sorry han, ur on ur own if ur gonna argue with that logic. Plain and simple, this season the real slim shady either stands up or ships out.
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Jun 8 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 8 2007, 12:55 AM) How so? Palermo a team with class? Now I'm curious. I wanna know your explanation. I meant to say Napoli!
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Jun 8 2007, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 8 2007, 06:18 AM) ^^^^^ Sorry han, ur on ur own if ur gonna argue with that logic. Plain and simple, this season the real slim shady either stands up or ships out. No, I agree with him on that matter (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) , I never said that Gila has done what was expected of him from Milan. All I'm trying to say is that I have faith in him and that the club should keep him because there aren't many players his age who have the same experiance ang goal scoring record in Serie A. And as I keep trying to point out, next season we need those 4 good strikers because of all the games we have. Keeping Oli who has as much a large wage instead of Gila is not smart, Gila will garauntee us goals in the league, Oli will not. That's all I'm trying to say here. R7 I agree with you on what you said, but always keep in mind that theire will be 5 competitions to play in next season and Ronaldo and Pippo cannot be relied upon to stay fit for the entire season. Oli will most probably be going to Real for Emerson next season so no need to worry about having him on the bench next season.
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Jun 9 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 8 2007, 09:31 PM) R7 I agree with you on what you said, but always keep in mind that theire will be 5 competitions to play in next season and Ronaldo and Pippo cannot be relied upon to stay fit for the entire season. Oli will most probably be going to Real for Emerson next season so no need to worry about having him on the bench next season. All I am asking from u, is to forget Gila's past at Parma and concentrate on what he has accomplished for Milan. Try to recall what made me and several other's try to point out about Gila being 'incompetent'. With that in mind, you would have to come to the conclusion that having faith in Gila is one thing and depending on him is another .. I have lost faith in him, but I don't think Milan can depend on him. Whilst you have faith in him, and still, u think Milan can depend on him (am I right ?). Well, Milan have today showed faith in Gila. Just as u have. But do you honestly think Milan will depend on him ? Well, we will just have to wait and see. But this time around (IF he ends up staying..), he will have to climb the ladder to the first team. And with Pippo, R99 and another great striker playing with their best form; Gila will have to really start to turn some heads if he wants to play in the important games (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jun 9 2007, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 8 2007, 11:04 PM) All I am asking from u, is to forget Gila's past at Parma and concentrate on what he has accomplished for Milan. Try to recall what made me and several other's try to point out about Gila being 'incompetent'. With that in mind, you would have to come to the conclusion that having faith in Gila is one thing and depending on him is another .. I have lost faith in him, but I don't think Milan can depend on him. Whilst you have faith in him, and still, u think Milan can depend on him (am I right ?). Well I always said that I had faith in him but I never really said that I would rely on him when it's a big game and we need goals so he should start instead of Pippo or whatever new striker we get. All I was saying is that with all the games we will play next season having a reliable SERIE A goal scorer would be better then having Oli when he would garauntee you something long the lines of 3 goals. Especially when they basically get the same wage. All I'm trying to say basically is that Gila will be very useful for us come next season and I don't mean to say that I would want Milan to rely on him when it comes to a big CL game I don't even rely on him when it comes to that myself (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . But just that he will be a good player to have between the 4 strikers we have next season. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 8 2007, 11:04 PM) Well, Milan have today showed faith in Gila. Just as u have. But do you honestly think Milan will depend on him ? Well, we will just have to wait and see. But this time around (IF he ends up staying..), he will have to climb the ladder to the first team. And with Pippo, R99 and another great striker playing with their best form; Gila will have to really start to turn some heads if he wants to play in the important games (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Exactly and I've never denied this. Hopefully the big challenge he will have to fight for his place next season will hopefully push him to show what he can do, sort of like Drogba at Chelsea. That's what I hope but we'll see. All I'm sure of is that this will probably be his last chance to impress and he better make it count because he will be out the door come next summer if he doesn't and then I would agree that selling him would be better for both parties involved
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Jun 9 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 9 2007, 12:00 PM) Well I always said that I had faith in him but I never really said that I would rely on him when it's a big game and we need goals so he should start instead of Pippo or whatever new striker we get. All I was saying is that with all the games we will play next season having a reliable SERIE A goal scorer would be better then having Oli when he would guarantee you something long the lines of 3 goals. Especially when they basically get the same wage. With everything u said, I believe we r starting to make some progress with these discussions (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, the bold part, as I said earlier; everyone should just forget about his past at Parma, cuz it is pointless, as at Parma he was playing at a different level than at Milan. Today, he has 2 seasons of experience with Milan. Usually players that fail to impress (as is the case) are sold. Now, Gilardino had been showed faith from the management, but I doubt he is a reliable Serie A goal scorer. In fact, he is unreliable (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) What might happen is, he might show some humility and climb the ladder to retain a first team spot. If he doesn't, he is sold. Other than this, I doubt Carlo would play him ahead of R99 (even if he cant handle all the games..), Gila would be playing second fiddle and it is a guarantee that he will start off the bench next year, as Galliani had already stated on the official site, "there is nothing wrong with starting from the bench" .. On another note. I am not saying the Oliveira is better than Gilardino (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) For Oli this is his first season with Milan. And just like Gila at Parma, Oli had exploded onto the scene with Betis. Oli, if we are going with ur reasoning, deserves another chance (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) BUT I am totally for selling Oli. As I don't think he can handle Serie A, IMHO. Therefor, if I was to make a decision, both Oli and Gila are sold. And I would bring in someone from Milan's youth team and a HUGE player to partner R99. In this sense, u would have experience in Pippo and R99, a firm starter in who ever is coming in, and giving our youth a chance at proving their worth (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 9 2007, 03:14 PM
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Still think we need those for good strikers to be able to handle next season's schedule.
And I know the part you bolded of my previous post sounds contradicting but what I mean basically is that I don't rely on Gila in big matches but I do when it comes to Serie A matches against midtable teams.
But I agree with you on all the other points and as I previously said, this will be Gila's last chance to prove his worth if not then he should be sold and this is how I feel about his situation with us
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