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post May 19 2007, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ May 19 2007, 11:47 PM)
i don't know why we're bashing the team, we should've expected this result... i mean udinese wanted to win bad and we just wanted to say goodbye to a legend.

plus it was our second team, these guys have never played together in a real match.
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Exactly. All we wanted is to rest players for the final and say goodby from Billy. With these players a win wasn't a must.
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post May 19 2007, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 19 2007, 09:43 PM)
He played one Italian cup game before this one .. He didn't get a chance. Moreover, he is young, he wont get better till he gains some experience and understands the way this team moves.
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Then he should just sit at his desk or watch from the stands and study instead of playing! Yes he's young - too young!
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post May 19 2007, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (milanista1899 @ May 19 2007, 08:50 PM)
Grimi won't! He was spectacular - as a clown!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If this guy is what we want in Milan we must really hate them!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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I think you are overreacting too much, to a couple of mistakes he made, he wasn't that bad. He just choked up after making a mistake, that's down to inexperiance.

As for the game, I don't see why anybody on here is getting all drama queen like because we lost a game no one from the club seems to care about.

As far as they are concerned Serie A finished last weekend against Catania, the players and Carlo said this themselves last week, they where just respecting the league and the opponents by going out there and playing the game.

So chill out, we got bigger fish to fry on Wednesday.
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post May 19 2007, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ May 19 2007, 09:47 PM)
i mean udinese wanted to win bad and we just wanted to say goodbye to a legend.

And why did Udinese want to win so badly? they're mid table - not going for anything. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 19 2007, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (milanista1899 @ May 19 2007, 11:53 PM)
Then he should just sit at his desk or watch from the stands and study instead of playing! Yes he's young - too young!
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That is exactly my point, why r u pissed off ?! We have Janku, Kakha, and Sergio to play ahead of him in left back.

He is an under-study, not a first team player.

Milan don't buy youth players or young players, Milan (for the 1,000 time) buy experience. But when they actually get a young player, some ppl don't like it, cuz of an "ok" performance ?!

In any case, he isn't a point of reference for AC Milan, he is just one player, a young player. If he develops good, if he doesn't. The club knows what to do with him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 19 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 19 2007, 09:56 PM)
As for the game, I don't see why anybody on here is getting all drama queen like because we lost a game no one from the club seems to care about.

As far as they are concerned Serie A finished last weekend against Catania, the players and Carlo said this themselves last week, they where just respecting the league and the opponents by going out there and playing the game.

So chill out, we got bigger fish to fry on Wednesday.
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That's what I'm pissed off about, why didn't they care? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I did! We deserve 3rd place like I said before, the season wasn't over. For Lazio to be ahead of us is an injustice - injustice pisses me off!

Well they didn't respect sh!t by the way they played today! It was supposed to be a happy occasion for Billy, one that we could all celebrate but we were pathetic and humiliated by a side that is mid table! It's embarrasing! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

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post May 19 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (mishale @ May 19 2007, 09:52 PM)
Exactly. All we wanted is to rest players for the final and say goodby from Billy. With these players a win wasn't a must.
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Well that's the wrong attitude! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post May 19 2007, 10:10 PM
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Ohhh come now ... ur talking about another subject. We lost thi sone to lift the CL this Wednesday (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Billy scored a goal, that is worth more to him than winning ... It would mean more for me to score than to win in my last game of my career (had i been a footballer) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Plus, there is no difference between 3rd and 4th place (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Same sh1t
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post May 19 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 19 2007, 09:57 PM)
That is exactly my point, why r u pissed off ?! We have Janku, Kakha, and Sergio to play ahead of him in left back.

He is an under-study, not a first team player.

Milan don't buy youth players or young players, Milan (for the 1,000 time) buy experience. But when they actually get a young player, some ppl don't like it, cuz of an "ok" performance ?!

In any case, he isn't a point of reference for AC Milan, he is just one player, a young player. If he develops good, if he doesn't. The club knows what to do with him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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So why didn't Sergio play at left back?

Then he shouldn't have been in the 1st team!

It wasn't an ok performance, by my standards.

Agreed with the last bit. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 19 2007, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 19 2007, 10:10 PM)
Plus, there is no difference between 3rd and 4th place (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Same sh1t
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In terms of CL qualification no, but it's the principle!
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post May 19 2007, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (milanista1899 @ May 20 2007, 12:09 AM)

We'll have to disagree.

That what these young/reserve playerse capable of. What did you expect? We couldn't play with better players cuz of obvious reasons. We reached our objective in the league and there isn't much diffrence between 3rd or 4th place. The only thing the club thinking about is a CL final
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post May 19 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (milanista1899 @ May 19 2007, 09:05 PM)
That's what I'm pissed off about, why didn't they care?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I did! We deserve 3rd place like I said before, the season wasn't over. For Lazio to be ahead of us is an injustice - injustice pisses me off!

Well they didn't respect sh!t by the way they played today! It was supoosed to be a happy occasion for Billy, one that we could all celebrate but we were pathetic and humiliated by a side that is mid table! It's embarrasing!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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What would you prefer, fielding a full strength team and win this match and playing the FINAL of the CL on Wednesday with tired player OR lose this MEANINGLESS game and go out on Wednesday with every player fresh and ready for the big game?

I think it's a pretty easy answer.

Of course it would have been nice to win this one too, everybody likes winning but if it came down to it and I had to choose then it would be a no brainer. Let's not forget that Liverpool don't have any games to play anymore and their first team haven't played a competitive match since the semi final, they are out there preparing in Spain.

We can't let a meaningless Serie A game disrupt our plans.

Udinese are only a midtable team because of the injuries they had this season and they where shipping in a lot of goal, because other then that they have a fairly good team that could give anyone trouble, let alone a B team that is filled with primaveras and players that have barely got a look in from the bench this season
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post May 19 2007, 10:20 PM
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Milan 2 - 3 Udinese
Asamoah 10 (U), Gourcuff 36 (M), Di Natale 53 (U), Costacurta pen 57 (M), Barreto 61 (U)
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Billy Costacurta scored on his swansong, but Milan's reserves lost 3-2 to Udinese with their minds on Athens. There was a nice gesture at the final whistle, as all the players - including those in the stands - went on to the pitch wearing Costacurta's Number 5 jersey.

These two sides had nothing left to play for in Serie A, so the Rossoneri fielded a reserve line-up ahead of next Wednesday's Champions League Final against Liverpool. It was a special event for Alessandro 'Billy' Costacurta, who played his final match before hanging up his boots at the age of 40 for a future as Milan's assistant manager. Udinese had to do without Vincenzo Iaquinta, Damiano Zenoni, Dias Felipe, Christian Obodo and the suspended Tomas Zapotocny.

Ricardo Oliveira was given a rare start and showed why, as in the opening eight minutes he ran on to Costacurta's pass only to slip at the crucial moment clear on goal.

Udinese took control, as Antonio Di Natale's screamer thumped the upright and Marco Storari did well to parry Marco Motta's follow-up.

Moments later it was 1-0 for the visitors. From the resulting corner kick, Gyan Asamoah got ahead of Giuseppe Favalli to nod in.

The Rossoneri fought back, bringing a fantastic save out of Morgan De Sanctis with Oliveira's fierce drive from distance. The move continued but neither Yoann Gourcuff nor Marco Borriello could finalise it.

Former Messina goalkeeper Storari parried a D'Agostino free kick at the other end.

Milan got their equaliser in chaotic circumstances. Ricardo Oliveira set up Borriello from the byline and although the Italian was closed down by defensive bodies, the ball rolled across for Gourcuff's tap-in. It was the French midfield talent's first Serie A goal.

Cristian Zapata had a great chance to restore Udinese's lead, combining with Paulo Barreto to fire just across the face of goal, D'Agostino drilled wide and Storari beat away a Di Natale free kick that split the wall.

After the break Sulley Ali Muntari did well to hook the ball back from the byline, but Asamoah couldn't get a touch with the goal gaping from six yards.

It was a warning and Udinese scored moments later. Muntari found too much space in midfield as he surged forward. Although Storari beat away the shot, he could do nothing on Di Natale's follow-up.

Oliveira's left-foot effort swung wide of the near post, but the referee pointed to the spot when Gourcuff made a meal of Dossena's push as he went to head a Serginho cross. Costacurta was urged to take the kick on his swansong and sent De Sanctis the wrong way. It was the last move of his playing career, as he received a standing ovation as he left the field.

Oliveira again slipped when it might have been earlier to score and once again Milan were made to pay for the Brazilian's problems in front of goal. Barreto hooked down a long ball over the defence and flicked it past Storari from a tight angle.

Siqueira fired over the bar at the end of a fast counter-attack and hit the back of the net later on, but the goal was disallowed for a push.

Oliveira's header swung wide of the near post and De Sanctis palmed away a Gourcuff left-foot finish, but Milan did not seem particularly intent on getting back into it. Perhaps superstition had something to do with it - the last game before the Istanbul Final was a 3-3 draw at San Siro with Palermo.

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Milan: Storari; Bonera, Simic, Favalli (Darmian 67), Grimi (Guerci 76); Brocchi, Costacurta (Di Gennaro 59), Gourcuff, Serginho; Borriello, Oliveira

Udinese: De Sanctis; Zapata, Coda, Natali, Dossena; Motta (Siqueira 51), D'Agostino, Muntari; Asamoah; Barreto (Sivok 67), Di Natale (De Martino 80)

Ref: Gervasoni
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It wasn't meaningless to me, and there didn't necessarily need to be a choice between the normal starting 11 and reserves/primavera, somewhere in between would have been better.
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post May 19 2007, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (milanista1899 @ May 19 2007, 09:25 PM)
It wasn't meaningless to me, and there didn't necessarily need to be a choice between the normal starting 11 and reserves/primavera, somewhere in between would have been better.
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No way, just think 0f this, 3pts and MAYBE (because Lazio can still pip us to third place even if we had won it today) get to 3rd in the table. OR going out to the final with players ALL with fresh legs and a good mental state.

For me it's a no brainer. I guess it's just a difference of oppinion (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but I can't understand why you feel so strongly about how our B team performed in a game we didn't need to win
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