[han2503]

Keep it friendly guys (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/graduated.gif)

We like to ruffle a bit of feathers here and there on special occasions.

And since R9 seems likely to come, this qualifies as an occasion (for some special, for others not so much (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

I mean, we've got a guy on stand-by ready to streak through down town Sydney if this is announced (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 18 2007, 04:10 PM

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Glad we don't have people like that in western australia. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

R7, I don't think the issue of the $$ from TV rights and big players has anything to do with fixing matches. Does it help you get results? Of course, but that is the way it works in everything and everywhere, not just football in serie A.

No .. I didnt mean that bcz of the $$ tv and big players that the match fixing was a direct result.

I ment that since there is no equality in the teams in the first place, that these things are bound to happen.

No one has a say on if Berlusconi is corrupt or not ... U know why ?? Cuz he is ahead of any investigating team by three steps (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That is why his business has not been stopped or been prevoked a licence for anything. There are doubts, I mean investigation that goes on, but nothing sufficiant to deem him of being corrupt has surfaced (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[dst]

Convince u on what ? That Milan fixs matchs ?! man, it's the system of Serie A certain teams are the ones that win it, they r the ones that r favored, they r the ones that get the greater share of tv $$, they r the ones who bring in the big name players ..

Fixing matchs is just a small part of the whole senario (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. I'm not saying that Milan does this or that, nor am I convincing u that they fixed this or that match. What I am saying, is that the club had been demoted twice for fruad and now they are very careful about what they do and the consequences ..

Convince me that "this is a part of the scenario"... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Firstly it's not the system of Serie A, it's the system of every single football league in the world and in general this is how the whole universe works! You know that of course but I just did not want us to focus on calcio italiano.

Secondly tv rights, transfer frauds and other stuff have nothing to do with match fixing. And Berlusconi in particular has done the former but stayed clear away from the latter. This is what I believe and it's an opinion forged through watching and studying calcio Serie A and it's underground; I think Milan (during Silvio's era) have never fixed any match!! And before anyone starts, I'm not saying this cause I'm a biased Milan fan. I do not see only good in this team, I know who our president is and we're in f@cking G14 for God's sake, the absolute instrument of punishment for the weak, I'm not blind!! This is my very own thought and I have no doubt about it... I would still be a Milan fan, and one as proud as I am now, even if I knew Milan did fix matches or even if it's proved in the future that we did!! So no this is no biased thinking...

And at last Milan has only been demoted once and it wasn't for match fixing, it was because of some of the team's players betting on the outcome of a certain matches, that was the "greengrocer" case... Milan then went on to win Serie B but got relegated again the year after that because they finished last.

That's all I got to say regarding this issue. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Jan 18 2007, 05:03 PM

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Which players were involved in the betting?