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 Jan 18 2007, 03:06 AM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
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Jan 18 2007, 03:07 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 18 2007, 12:42 AM) It's like this: Moggi, Berlusconi, Moratti, Galliani = all the same type. The difference is that some of them have more money than the others. Why do you think that Moggi said (when Calciocaos happened): "If Agnelli was alive, this won't happen". Another one for that group. In Italy, everything is done that way. Like it or not. And we, Milan are not different.  Yes Milan r not different. But in Milan's case, Milan had been demoted twice for fruad, so the board has everything accounted for. The assume the least risk in all their actions (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I don't think Silvio has sabotaged Inter and Juves title hopes ever (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. It just comes to show that Moaratti has come out as the odd man between the rest, and time will tell how close they r from being punished. Punished, fristly for demoting Juve !!! Then for Planting a conspiracy on the whole Calcio .. He just makes me sick. |
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Jan 18 2007, 04:04 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 885 Joined: 16-October 05 From: Paris Member No.: 605 |
what a gas!
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Jan 18 2007, 07:47 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
read what portugal writes instead of just schimming through it. Every club in the world cheats in one way or another. No single ref is unbiast. CL last year remember how sheva was denied a goal. Remember how arsenal should have won. People get caught others dont. Every politician or person who has grasped some power in the world is corrupt. We can go from g w bush to paris hilton. What porty is saying that you guys think were super clean and we win everything fairly, comon give me a break. Do you want a bed time story with that too?
Ps: i may not know alot about milan history but i sure as hell know that every board member is corrupt in milan to the utmost degree. This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jan 18 2007, 07:48 AM |
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Jan 18 2007, 08:20 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 18 2007, 12:47 AM) read what portugal writes instead of just schimming through it. Every club in the world cheats in one way or another. No single ref is unbiast. CL last year remember how sheva was denied a goal. Remember how arsenal should have won. People get caught others dont. Every politician or person who has grasped some power in the world is corrupt. We can go from g w bush to paris hilton. What porty is saying that you guys think were super clean and we win everything fairly, comon give me a break. Do you want a bed time story with that too? Ps: i may not know alot about milan history but i sure as hell know that every board member is corrupt in milan to the utmost degree. This is my honest opinion. I think you and Porto are full of $hit. You are not presenting any facts and are basically talking out of your asses. Almost everybody here admits that Don Silvio is corrupt as a person. But unless you can bring some facts to the table about Milan being a cheat, you won't have any credibility. I seriously can NOT remember the last Milan match I watched and I thought, hmm, Milan is being favoured.... And I have been following Milan for a looooong time. This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Jan 18 2007, 08:20 AM |
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Jan 18 2007, 09:55 AM
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Hmmm firey discussion. Yeh I don't know a great deal about the so called 'dealings' or the ways things 'work' at milan. If someones willing to provide detailed insights into it.. be quite interested to hear bout it and the other clubs :S.
I agree with K-max though, from games I've seen never ever thought anything was fixed, if anything I've felt the opposite way. Remember the 2nd goal in istanbul for liverpool.. certain flag going up for offside and play just continuing and liverpool scoring. (Had to throw that in (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ) Anything involving money, its a fair assumption that money is placed and accounts are editted. Really the people involved in that should be held accountable rather than the team, who are the innocent party. Anyway I dunno, just swindling some words. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Jan 18 2007, 12:23 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 885 Joined: 16-October 05 From: Paris Member No.: 605 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 18 2007, 06:47 AM) read what portugal writes instead of just schimming through it. Every club in the world cheats in one way or another. No single ref is unbiast. CL last year remember how sheva was denied a goal. Remember how arsenal should have won. People get caught others dont. Every politician or person who has grasped some power in the world is corrupt. We can go from g w bush to paris hilton. What porty is saying that you guys think were super clean and we win everything fairly, comon give me a break. Do you want a bed time story with that too? Ps: i may not know alot about milan history but i sure as hell know that every board member is corrupt in milan to the utmost degree. Hey dude do me a favor and don't insult the club that I love (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) See, I think the only point you've got is saying you don't know anything about Milan history, Milan is the most hated club in Italy, plus I think you're confused, I mean what has a corrupt politician to do with the CL final or the referees incompetence?!! Oh, yeah wait it's Laporta, he's corrupted and paid Merk and told him to do every thing to take us down (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) We all here agree that Berlusconi isn't the cleanest guy in the world, and so goes for the politicians, but you can't deny the facts, just watch a couple of Milan matches and then you can tell if we fix our matches or not! The reality of the field can't be denied, some "big" clubs are favored that's undeniable but it's just about some fouls and cards here and there, and you can't do anything about it, it's a part of the star system! Go to watch a match of la Juve and you'll understand what does it mean being favored, few decades ago they used to offer "gifts" to the referees in Italy, and now it seemed (even if officially, they don't do that anymore) that the referees used to it and they still make a strange decisions (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but you know what, I give them the benefit of a doubt, may be they are really changing even if some habits hardly change (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You know what people say, the worst vice is advice, so here is a suggestion, never speak about what you don't know!! |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:10 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 18 2007, 09:20 AM) This is my honest opinion. I think you and Porto are full of $hit. You are not presenting any facts and are basically talking out of your asses. Almost everybody here admits that Don Silvio is corrupt as a person. But unless you can bring some facts to the table about Milan being a cheat, you won't have any credibility. I seriously can NOT remember the last Milan match I watched and I thought, hmm, Milan is being favoured.... And I have been following Milan for a looooong time. Name ONE game guys... ONE fucking game!! |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:13 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 18 2007, 03:10 PM) Name ONE game guys... ONE fucking game!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dst .. ur not trying hard enough (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:21 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 18 2007, 02:13 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) dst .. ur not trying hard enough (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) what's that supposed to mean?? Two games come to mind where we were severely damnified enough to cost us the scudetto if that's what you want me to do... First one was against Parma some years ago (last giornata)... that game was just a joke... it was f@cking obvious that Milan shouldn't win the game. The second one was against Giuve two years ago at San Siro... maybe you remember that one?? Oh and against Roma (last giornata again) 3 years ago... we won with that Sheva goal but we have not been given a clear penalty... This post has been edited by dst: Jan 18 2007, 01:27 PM |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:46 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 18 2007, 03:21 PM) what's that supposed to mean?? Two games come to mind where we were severely damnified enough to cost us the scudetto if that's what you want me to do... First one was against Parma some years ago (last giornata)... that game was just a joke... it was f@cking obvious that Milan shouldn't win the game. The second one was against Giuve two years ago at San Siro... maybe you remember that one?? Oh and against Roma (last giornata again) 3 years ago... we won with that Sheva goal but we have not been given a clear penalty... Come on .. u could do better (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .. Milan has fixed up some games, but that doesn't mean that we won those games or we won the league or CL .. Therefore, it is pointless to say that Silvio and Galliani r corrupt in their investment in Milan. I don't mean to say that Milan are completely clean nor r they completely corrupt; the fact that they have been demoted b4 has kept the club on it's toes as to always account for anything and everything, in case sh!t happens. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Jan 18 2007, 02:23 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 18 2007, 02:46 PM) Milan has fixed up some games, but that doesn't mean that we won those games or we won the league or CL .. Therefore, it is pointless to say that Silvio and Galliani r corrupt in their investment in Milan. Not even Moratti's own Guido Rossi could present anything against Milan... Milan was penalized for a 2-2 draw... in which we had a good goal disallowed. Or were they accusing us of inability to fix a match the proper way!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... so whatever you say will not convince me, period! Let's leave it at that! |
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Jan 18 2007, 03:14 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 18 2007, 04:23 PM) Not even Moratti's own Guido Rossi could present anything against Milan... Milan was penalized for a 2-2 draw... in which we had a good goal disallowed. Or were they accusing us of inability to fix a match the proper way!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... so whatever you say will not convince me, period! Let's leave it at that! Convince u on what ? That Milan fixs matchs ?! man, it's the system of Serie A certain teams are the ones that win it, they r the ones that r favored, they r the ones that get the greater share of tv $$, they r the ones who bring in the big name players .. Fixing matchs is just a small part of the whole senario (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. I'm not saying that Milan does this or that, nor am I convincing u that they fixed this or that match. What I am saying, is that the club had been demoted twice for fruad and now they are very careful about what they do and the consequences .. |
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Jan 18 2007, 03:57 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 18 2007, 02:14 PM) Convince u on what ? That Milan fixs matchs ?! man, it's the system of Serie A certain teams are the ones that win it, they r the ones that r favored, they r the ones that get the greater share of tv $$, they r the ones who bring in the big name players .. Fixing matchs is just a small part of the whole senario (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .. I'm not saying that Milan does this or that, nor am I convincing u that they fixed this or that match. What I am saying, is that the club had been demoted twice for fruad and now they are very careful about what they do and the consequences .. We are just going round in circles with this. Let's simplify this shall we. Berlusconi, he is corrupt as a man everybody knows this and I don't think even Silvio would deny it. Now this is where we all agree right?? What's the difference between when Milan and Juve got relegated? Milan got relagated because of players who bet on their own matches and agreed between eachother to play for a certain result. That isn't the same as club officials giving Lamborginis and locking people in changing rooms, so that the refs will favour them. R7, I don't think the issue of the $$ from TV rights and big players has anything to do with fixing matches. Does it help you get results? Of course, but that is the way it works in everything and everywhere, not just football in serie A. Fact - Milan never fixed a match by bribing a ref, Borelli tried EVERYTHING in his power to try and prove this and all he managed to come up with was Meani COMPLAINING AFTER the match had finished about the bad calls that had cost us 3 pts. Then after the phone call happened we where scr3wed over again and had another bad ref call cost us a match. The only thing we should have been charged for if we really did fix matches is for the ametuorish way we did it, since, CLEARLY, it didn't really work in our favour. |
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Jan 18 2007, 04:04 PM
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Keep it friendly guys (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/graduated.gif)
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