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post Jan 17 2007, 04:56 PM
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MILAN, Italy (AP) - Inter Milan owner and president Massimo Moratti and AC Milan vice president Adriano Galliani are reportedly being investigated for false bookkeeping.

The two are being investigated by Milan prosecutor Carlo Nocerino, Milan daily Corriere della Sera reported Wednesday.

Nocerino is looking at whether the teams overvalued player transactions by immediately recording capital gains but spreading out costs over a period of years.

The ANSA news agency said Wednesday that the investigation is almost finished.

The prosecutor could not be immediately reached Wednesday and his office declined comment on the report.

Both clubs declined to comment, but Corriere della Sera said that Milan had denied wrongdoing and Inter promised to present "technical arguments" to the investigation that will clear the club.

Prosecutors have previously investigated other club officials for false bookkeeping, including AS Roma and Lazio.

A massive scandal engulfed Italian soccer last year, resulting in Juventus' relegation to Serie B. Juve was also stripped of its last two Serie A titles, while Inter was awarded the 2005-06 Serie A title as the highest-ranked team not implicated in the scandal.

Milan was among four other clubs to start the season with points penalties.

Moratti was questioned in October amid allegations that his club requested the wiretaps that helped uncover the Italian match-fixing scandal. He denied the allegations.

Inter leads Serie A this season.
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for a country that treats football as a religion...it sure seems like they are trying everything they can to bring it down
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post Jan 17 2007, 05:00 PM
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The scandal was damaging enough for everyone

we really dont need this right now
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post Jan 17 2007, 05:44 PM
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I heard this from corriero del sport or like that and another italian source.

they are vague hinting at something...
I hope it is all false.ö.... except for Inter's Case (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
(strike that, I hope thats false too lol)
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post Jan 17 2007, 09:38 PM
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An italian senator: "If it's proved they (Inter) did that, they'll go down to Serie B".

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=48649
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post Jan 17 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 17 2007, 08:38 PM)
An italian senator: "If it's proved they (Inter) did that, they'll go down to Serie B".

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...n=read&id=48649
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and what about us? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:54 PM)

We? We'll go to Disneyland! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Seriously, they don't say anything about Milan.
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 17 2007, 09:17 PM)
Seriously, they don't say anything about Milan.
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This is just what we need.

Galliani is running us into the ground. First getting us involved in the calciopoli, now this, not to mention all the sh!tty half @ssed transfers he's been making for the past 2 years (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 17 2007, 09:19 PM)
This is just what we need.

Galliani is running us into the ground. First getting us involved in the calciopoli, now this, not to mention all the sh!tty half @ssed transfers he's been making for the past 2 years  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Moggi in
Galliani out

I'm tired of saying this. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) At least Moggi can bring good players in. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:29 PM
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I don't want Moggi.
this would be ridiculous... he'sn like galliani, a corrupt moron.
we don't need more problems, no thank you.

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ROME, Jan 17 (Reuters) - The president of Inter Milan and the vice president of AC Milan have been placed under investigation by an Italian magistrate probing false accounting in Serie A football, a judicial source said on Wednesday.

Milan public prosecutor Carlo Nocerino plans to summon Inter's Massimo Moratti and Milan's Adriano Galliani for questioning in the investigation into possible balance sheet irregularities, the source told Reuters.

The prosecutor is investigating whether clubs manipulated their balance sheets by inflating the prices of players they bought and sold, the source said.

In Italy, being placed under investigation does not indicate guilt and does not necessarily lead to criminal charges.

Inter Milan refused to comment on the news, although they had previously said they were confident they would be able to refute any claims of financial irregularity. AC Milan have also insisted their books are correct.

Milan's public prosecutor has questioned whether Inter could have passed the financial tests required to take part in the 2004-05 Serie A season without improperly adjusting its accounts.

Nocerino intends to hand his findings to the Italian Football Federation, which could then decide whether to open its own investigation, the judicial source said.

Last September, Rome magistrates called for the president of AS Roma, Franco Sensi, and the former president of Lazio, Sergio Cragnotti, to stand trial for false accounting. Both men denied the accusations.

Other investigations into false accounting in Italian football are under way in Genoa and Turin.


http://sports.alice.it/it/cmc/calcio/20073/cmc_105332.html

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadre/Inte...7/moratti.shtml
my italian friend says it's just vague rumours...
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:30 PM
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...and get us relegated into Serie B. Get real Porty.
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 17 2007, 09:29 PM)
I don't want Moggi.
this would be ridiculous... he'sn like galliani, a corrupt moron.

Are you trying to say that Galliani, Berlusconi and co are a clean guys? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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NO WAY!! There are other great executives out there who can handle clubs.

Moggi is a currupt b@stard. And he will take us down to Serie B like he did Juve.

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my italian friend says it's just vague rumours...


I just read a quote from Mo0ratti which said that he has known about these trails going on and that thy have everything under control

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Both clubs are also embroiled in a battle of a very different kind, as they have been named in an investigation into false accounting to register them for the 2004-05 campaign.

“We are relaxed,” insisted Moratti. “We can explain everything and I knew this investigation was in place. I read a few inaccuracies in the stories that emerged today.”
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 17 2007, 10:32 PM)
Are you trying to say that Galliani, Berlusconi and co are a clean guys?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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AS CLEAN AS MORATTI AND TELEKOM ITALIA (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

We are called BBilan, and I don't want to be called Moggista or whatever lol
Moggi ruined his career, why should we get him?!?!

yes Moratti knows of it, there's an article of that on the official homepage:
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[FOTO Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:30:25] MILAN - "I'm calm, we're all calm. We will justify everything," said Massimo Moratti today about reports in Italian daily Il Corriere della Sera and news agencies regarding the investigations of prosecutors into the finances of Inter and other clubs. The Inter president also spoke about Tuesday's meeting with Roberto Mancini and the transfer market rumours of a Ronaldo move to AC Milan.

Dr Moratti, are you calm or surprised after reading the Corriere della Sera this morning?
"No, I'm not surprised because I knew about this matter. Maybe the front page was a bit excessive... (smiles), but we're calm about the matter in itself. With all due respect for the prosecutor, who is right to go into these things, we're confident we can justify them."

The report said that Inter risked not being enrolled for the 2004/05 championship...
"Unfounded rumours. As a matter of fact, I read a few inaccuracies..."

So Moratti and the club aren't worried?
"Yes, without doubt. I have also made enquiries with the experts who have followed this matter, and they're just as calm."

Back to the football. You finally had that meeting with Roberto Mancini last night...
"Yes, but there has never been any problem, he too wants to do well. It's not as if he's thinking about a future without getting the results we have yet to achieve."

Mancini himself has spoken of a project...
"With the experience he has gained at the club, he can look to the future by looking even more at the growth of the youngsters, something that he has always done, to see what the team needs tactically. And we talk about players of interest, but with the team that is doing so well at the moment, there's no intention of selling anybody."

But you have decided when you will meet to sign the contract...
"Yes, and I have already said it will be when nobody talks about it anymore. Ours is a good relationship."

How does it feel to see Ronaldo so close to joining Milan?
"I have already spoken of my disappointment from a human point of view. But from a professional viewpoint Ronaldo is free to choose what is best for him."

But are you surprised by the possibility of Ronaldo choosing Milan?
"This can happen during the life of a player... If this whole thing is true, perhaps he doesn't like it in Madrid anymore and he contacted a team that needs this kind of player... However, I don't want to get too involved in these things. And besides, I like Ronaldo."

Have you ever thought of bringing him back?
"You'd always bring back Ronaldo... But we don't have this necessity right now, while Milan do."
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post Jan 17 2007, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 17 2007, 09:35 PM)
AS CLEAN AS MORATTI AND TELEKOM ITALIA  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

We are called BBilan, and I don't want to be called Moggista or whatever lol
Moggi ruined his career, why should we get him?!?!


It's like this: Moggi, Berlusconi, Moratti, Galliani = all the same type. The difference is that some of them have more money than the others.

Why do you think that Moggi said (when Calciocaos happened): "If Agnelli was alive, this won't happen". Another one for that group.

In Italy, everything is done that way. Like it or not. And we, Milan are not different.
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