[Rossoneri7]

you should know already that I don't count Kaladze as a worthy player... I'd pay him so that people wouldn't say Milan only got beautiful players (...) or as a ball-boy but that's all...

U really dissapoint me ... Though Id expect this from a Guive fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ... Never from u (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... In anycase, I think he was EXTREMELLY crucial for us last season. He was the only fit defender we had at times, still he was up for the challenege

[han2503]

U really dissapoint me ... Though Id expect this from a Guive fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ... Never from u (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... In anycase, I think he was EXTREMELLY crucial for us last season. He was the only fit defender we had at times, still he was up for the challenege

Oh you know him and Porto like to give him stick for no reason. Imo Kala is a very good defender and Milan had much, much worse then him.

And considering how crucial he was to us last season I can't see why they still give him such a hard time

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 3 2007, 04:28 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Oh you know him and Porto like to give him stick for no reason. Imo Kala is a very good defender and Milan had much, much worse then him.

And considering how crucial he was to us last season I can't see why they still give him such a hard time

Ofcourse .. Kakha is a great player !!! He was very crucial for us last season .. He was part of the XI that got us the CL in 03 and scudetto in 04.

I think Kakha should stay with us for sometime, cuz he still has a lot to prove (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[dst]

And considering how crucial he was to us last season I can't see why they still give him such a hard time

I really can't see how he was crucial to us last season apart from the goal in the derby. He only was, as you used to say, the lesser of our evils...

I would play Simic and Bonera in the centre of the defence cause they're both definitely better than him... !!

[agenth]

well you better make a plan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

WTF?!?!?!?
If this is true...............
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

We are f*cked up.

[han2503]

I really can't see how he was crucial to us last season apart from the goal in the derby. He only was, as you used to say, the lesser of our evils...

I would play Simic and Bonera in the centre of the defence cause they're both definitely better than him... !!

Ok I never said he was the lesser of our evils, just said that Nesta made him look good...

But looking back at our games last season he was very impressive. And no way would I put Simic in before him, Bonera yes but Simic, I never really trusted him and the only way I would choose them over him is if they will be playing along side Nesta or Paolo. But not pick either of them before him when it's someone else in the defence.

The only thing that Kala doesn't have is speed

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 3 2007, 05:01 PM

[han2503]

WTF?!?!?!?
If this is true...............
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

We are f*cked up.

I can't see how Carlo said this, he was just now quoted as practically saying that he is sure he will have Oddo by the end of January.

I think there was a misqoute somewhere or it's just tribal making a whole lot of sh!t up like they usually do (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[dst]

Ok I never said he was the lesser of our evils, just said that Nesta made him look good...

no I meant the expression... "lesser of two evils" in general, not in this matter! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But looking back at our games last season he was very impressive. And no way would I put Simic in before him, Bonera yes but Simic, I never really trusted him and the only way I would choose them over him is if they will be playing along side Nesta or Paolo. But not pick either of them before him when it's someone else in the defence.

he had some good game last season but he was far from impressive IMO. Simic and Bonera are better in every aspect of the game. Even Simic can jump higher than Kaladze... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The only thing that Kala doesn't have is speed

Oh... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So can he jump, go first on the ball, position himself, take the ball to the midfield and make a decent pass? Well, I think it's clear enough that he can't do the above but in his fairness, he'd be a very good sub!

[han2503]

no I meant the expression... "lesser of two evils" in general, not in this matter! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I just thought that you meant he was the lesser of 2 evils in this matter. And when dst says that, I am TOTALLY SURE that he is talking about Kala and Sergio (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

he had some good game last season but he was far from impressive IMO. Simic and Bonera are better in every aspect of the game. Even Simic can jump higher than Kaladze...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Maybe 'impressive' was a strong word to use but he was solid, we even managed to keep a clean sheet in the Camp Nou against Barca with him playing next to the 40 year old Costacurta. I would say he was solid enough and is worthy of a starting berth, when either Paolo or Nesta are injured.

Oh...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   So can he jump, go first on the ball, position himself, take the ball to the midfield and make a decent pass? Well, I think it's clear enough that he can't do the above but in his fairness, he'd be a very good sub!

The jumping part is true, but he is good with positioning himself and sending good passes to the midfield.

I think this whole Kala hate thing is just clouding your judgment (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by han2503: Jan 3 2007, 05:25 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I think this whole Kala hate thing is just clouding your judgment  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yes I think that is it too (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

FORZA KAKHA !!!

[dst]

Maybe 'impressive' was a strong word to use but he was solid, we even managed to keep a clean sheet in the Camp Nou against Barca with him playing next to the 40 year old Costacurta. I would say he was solid enough and is worthy of a starting berth, when either Paolo or Nesta are injured.

How come he's solid? He makes (alt least) one BIG mistake in every game he plays. In Camp Nou we kept a clean sheet because of Dida, not Kaladze. That was in fact a very bad game from him (and of course Billy) with numerous mistakes. One that just comes to mind is when he lost the ball to Eto'o and Costacurta could only chop him down and get booked... Why don't you mention the first leg instead when he just stood and stare Giuly kill Dida from inside the box!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The jumping part is true, but he is good with positioning himself and sending good passes to the midfield.

He's very bad at positioning, believe me... He can do the easy passes to the other defenders that's true but he can't take the ball up to the midfield.

I think this whole Kala hate thing is just clouding your judgment  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't hate Kala... in fact I used to like him when he played as an LB but now... he's just a mediocre defender that's all. If there's one player for which you can say my opinion is biased, that's Serginho and I can even admit it myself.

[han2503]

How come he's solid? He makes (alt least) one BIG mistake in every game he plays. In Camp Nou we kept a clean sheet because of Dida, not Kaladze. That was in fact a very bad game from him (and of course Billy) with numerous mistakes. One that just comes to mind is when he lost the ball to Eto'o and Costacurta could only chop him down and get booked... Why don't you mention the first leg instead when he just stood and stare Giuly kill Dida from inside the box!?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think that goal was both his and Nesta fault.

And the game in the Camp Nou was more Dida's heroics then anything alse, but other then that howler he was pretty good.

He's very bad at positioning, believe me... He can do the easy passes to the other defenders that's true but he can't take the ball up to the midfield.

I've never noticed anything bad with his positioning... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

But the passing thing I'm sure of, he is good at that.

I don't hate Kala... in fact I used to like him when he played as an LB but now... he's just a mediocre defender that's all. If there's one player for which you can say my opinion is biased, that's Serginho and I can even admit it myself.

You just like him because he was more of a defensive fullback (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[X-Offender]

Kaladze last season was more than impressive, he and Nesta formed one of our most sensational center backs of the last decade. I'm sorry dst, but I just can't see your point. You may say he's been terrible this season, and that's due to his injuries, but when you say he was mediocre even last season, I can't do anything else but laugh at you... without offense. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[dst]

But the passing thing I'm sure of, he is good at that.

Oh come on I'm talking about a 10m pass... he can do that, of course he can give the ball to a man next to him but his long, medium-length passes are just not existent!

You just like him because he was more of a defensive fullback (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't know what you're talking about... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

anyway... there's no reason arguing about this matter anymore cause noone's willing to change his mind about him... Just remember I'm right! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Kaladze last season was more than impressive, he and Nesta formed one of our most sensational center backs of the last decade. I'm sorry dst, but I just can't see your point. You may say he's been terrible this season, and that's due to his injuries, but when you say he was mediocre even last season, I can't do anything else but laugh at you... without offense. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'm not offended... but laughing back at you for stating he was "more than impressive"...

[Portman]

Kaladze last season was more than impressive, he and Nesta formed one of our most sensational center backs of the last decade.

For god sake dude. Kaladze? Are you being serious?

Just because Berlusconi like him (same for Brocchi) that doesn't mean anything for me.
Kaladze, for me, is/was always a joke as CB/LB. Pure Chievo's quality out there. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)