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Feb 10 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 11 2007, 01:37 AM) It's just this season because we are off form, the same team as a Unit if playing well is better then any other. The midfield 4 we have are probably the best together when in form. So? I can say Real is off form also (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Don't forget Real - best Zidane era. Anyways, things change. And I hope THINGS WILL CHANGE.
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Feb 10 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Feb 10 2007, 10:38 PM) So? I can say Real is off form also (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Don't forget Real - best Zidane era. Anyways, things change. And I hope THINGS WILL CHANGE. Real is mainly playing bad because of Cappello's stuberness but that's besides the point. With all the money they spent they should have enough players to provide them with an instance of genius that could win you a match
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Feb 10 2007, 11:52 PM
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Without offence, but anyone who thinks Real are better than Milan is officially retarded. If you want to compare both teams this season, then let's do it. Real actually have 41 points in the tables and are 3rd in La Liga. Now look at Milan: they have 27 points and are 9th in Serie A with one match less than Real. But now compare both situations of the clubs. Real had a nice warm investing summer. They signed a lot of new players, a famous experienced coach and didn't have to worry about anything at all. What about Milan? We were strangled to death by the calciopoli scandal this summer, we started the season with -8 points, we had to call up all of our players from vacations cause of the Champions League preliminary round, we didn't replace most of our departed players until January, we were rocked up by the injuries, we hit 14 posts in 12 matches in a row, we assisted to a championship totally dominated by Inter and in the end we still managed to put the act together and catch up to the 4th place, which we are only 3 points behind. Now, how many points did Real have until tonight? 41-3=38. What about Milan if we didn't started the season with the 8 point handicap? 27+8=34. So, the difference is only 4 points. Seriously, compare both situations and you'll see there is no point in saying Real are better than Milan. QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Feb 10 2007, 10:07 PM) you call Milan a good unit? Nooo way. I haven't seen a good team work since last year in Milan. 98% of victories are a result of individual excellance (kaka, pirlo, seedorf, etc) not a team work. Sorry, but that sounds a bit dull. Milan are the most compact football team I've ever managed to know. Have you ever read or heard of any kind of raw or brawl in our locker room? No at all. Teamwork is what characterizes this squad, all of our players love to help each other, like for example, whenever Gila scores he goes to hug Pippo and the opposite. Whoever has played for Milan would say there is no locker room in the world like the one of AC. Milan.
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Feb 10 2007, 11:59 PM
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As I understand it, han's point is that Real have absolutely no excuse for performing the way they have been. Everything that could be in their favour has been. They have had no huge instances of bad luck. No tough ref calls. No totally inept strikeforce. No points deductions. And most importantly, no transfer woes.
While Milan have just about had every piece of sh!t that Madrid ducked, hit us in the face. So which club do I think is better off...well golly gee, lemme spell it out.
1. Poor summer transfer: Assuming the points deduction and relegation worry as a factor, I'll excuse it. Compensated by a very satisfactory winter transfer. Grimi and Oddo both have been anything but flops. Ronaldo, I haven't see him yet, but 5 will give you 10, that for the price we got him, we were definitely the winners. Put yourself in Real's shoes. They refused a 18 mill pound bid in the summer and are forced to give him up at nearly half price. And we were suspecting our management of being inept.
2. Pathetic Strikers: So we have Gila and Pippo, basically spelling out 9-11(Emergency help!). Box strikers both, and then we had nobody. Oli came, and had his sister kidnapped, and then rarely played. And when he did, sure he's got the class, but not the form. In such a case(and our defence was no great shakes), we had a mid-field(who've slogged their butt off in the WC), having to defend and attack, basically save and win matches. It's a miracle we didn't lose more than we did. So we did lose against Roma and Inter. Well at least we weren't humiliated by Getafe and Sevilla. So, you wanna say they beat Barca??!!! Did you see Barca play that match?? The Indian National Team coulda beaten Barca that nite, and the Indian NT was humbled 7-0 by a second string Japan in a friendly. Go figure!
Out of Form Midfield and defence: Uhm...excuse me , but what defence. Half the blokes were injured. Cafu had clearly been told to hold the fort till they could get Oddo, and he almost admitted as much. And mid-field. So Pirlo was outta form. And Seedorf was well Seedorf. Funny how we like to magnify his failures, and every time he's brilliant say, 'Wow!' and leave it at that.
Compared to that, what exactly have Madrid got to complain about. About RVN scoring 5 goals in a match. About having the best DM in the world in their side. About having the second best CB in their side. About getting almost any transfer they wanted. Well guess what...news flash..Madrid f@cked up, and f@cked up big. Milan dug deep and held out. Not very prettily but, you don't see anybody in Milan looking around anxiously trying to point fingers to explain about the position we are in.
Naah, if what we are going through right now(almost guaranteed 4th place) is the worst season we've had in 10 years, well guess I'm Rossoneri for life and grateful for it.
So to summarize...what han said...exactly what he said.
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Feb 11 2007, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 11 2007, 01:59 AM) As I understand it, han's point is that Real have absolutely no excuse for performing the way they have been. Everything that could be in their favour has been. They have had no huge instances of bad luck. No tough ref calls. No totally inept strikeforce. No points deductions. And most importantly, no transfer woes. While Milan have just about had every piece of sh!t that Madrid ducked, hit us in the face. So which club do I think is better off...well golly gee, lemme spell it out. 1. Poor summer transfer: Assuming the points deduction and relegation worry as a factor, I'll excuse it. Compensated by a very satisfactory winter transfer. Grimi and Oddo both have been anything but flops. Ronaldo, I haven't see him yet, but 5 will give you 10, that for the price we got him, we were definitely the winners. Put yourself in Real's shoes. They refused a 18 mill pound bid in the summer and are forced to give him up at nearly half price. And we were suspecting our management of being inept. 2. Pathetic Strikers: So we have Gila and Pippo, basically spelling out 9-11(Emergency help!). Box strikers both, and then we had nobody. Oli came, and had his sister kidnapped, and then rarely played. And when he did, sure he's got the class, but not the form. In such a case(and our defence was no great shakes), we had a mid-field(who've slogged their butt off in the WC), having to defend and attack, basically save and win matches. It's a miracle we didn't lose more than we did. So we did lose against Roma and Inter. Well at least we weren't humiliated by Getafe and Sevilla. So, you wanna say they beat Barca??!!! Did you see Barca play that match?? The Indian National Team coulda beaten Barca that nite, and the Indian NT was humbled 7-0 by a second string Japan in a friendly. Go figure! Out of Form Midfield and defence: Uhm...excuse me , but what defence. Half the blokes were injured. Cafu had clearly been told to hold the fort till they could get Oddo, and he almost admitted as much. And mid-field. So Pirlo was outta form. And Seedorf was well Seedorf. Funny how we like to magnify his failures, and every time he's brilliant say, 'Wow!' and leave it at that. Compared to that, what exactly have Madrid got to complain about. About RVN scoring 5 goals in a match. About having the best DM in the world in their side. About having the second best CB in their side. About getting almost any transfer they wanted. Well guess what...news flash..Madrid f@cked up, and f@cked up big. Milan dug deep and held out. Not very prettily but, you don't see anybody in Milan looking around anxiously trying to point fingers to explain about the position we are in. Naah, if what we are going through right now(almost guaranteed 4th place) is the worst season we've had in 10 years, well guess I'm Rossoneri for life and grateful for it. So to summarize...what han said...exactly what he said. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) and Madrid r sh!t compared to Milan (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Feb 11 2007, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 11 2007, 02:52 AM) Sorry, but that sounds a bit dull. Milan are the most compact football team I've ever managed to know. Have you ever read or heard of any kind of raw or brawl in our locker room? No at all. Teamwork is what characterizes this squad, all of our players love to help each other, like for example, whenever Gila scores he goes to hug Pippo and the opposite. Whoever has played for Milan would say there is no locker room in the world like the one of AC. Milan. Team play isn't chactacterized by hugs, love, talking. It's shown only in the game and by the way is also determined by the cauch
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Feb 11 2007, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Feb 11 2007, 12:42 AM) Team play isn't chactacterized by hugs, love, talking. It's shown only in the game and by the way is also determined by the cauch I was actually talking about the game. We may have won matches this season because of individual excellence, but still teamwork is the strongest weapon of this squad. We all know the golden combo's of Gila-Kakà , Maldini-Nesta, Pirlo-Gattuso and so on. We all know ball possession is what characterizes our play, and we all know we've won loads of matches just because of the great collaboration this team has. You may not see it now because like han said we've a little off form lately, but still the players of this squad know themselves better than any other guy. We may as well be called Milan United. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Portugal @ Feb 11 2007, 12:47 AM) Thank you. From now on, I'll start my posts with: "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is officially a S-H-I-T-H-E-A-D." (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I said without offence but it seems you get offended easily. It's my nickname isn't it? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 11 2007, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Feb 10 2007, 10:00 PM) I don't think, without injuries, we have a better squad than them. We are for sure not worse! QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 10 2007, 10:08 PM) Real have no clue on how to manage the team, or better yet, Bevis and Butthead (Calderon and Predrag) have no clue and who ever elected Calderon must be seriously lacking in the brains area (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) They manage it pretty well, house is full, new players are selling shirts, tv contract is huge... that's what they care about and that's what they get. QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 10 2007, 10:08 PM) Yep, I can't believe that we all where sh!tting ourselves because Real had gotten him, I guess you where right about him R7. Same for Gago, he ain't anything special. As a unit I think we are better, in terms of names I think we are equal. Too soon, too young and in a team under great pressure... for God's sake I'm biased too but not that much! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 10 2007, 10:11 PM) Actually Milan is very motivated .. OK... Just kick him out, he's clearly drunk! QUOTE (Portugal @ Feb 10 2007, 10:27 PM) How can you EVEN compare Milan to Madrid by this time? As far I know, they beat Barcelona and Valencia - 2 top teams - this season. And they're 5 points away from the top and "in crisis". And they lost to Levante for the first time in their history at HOME! Barcelona also lost to Zaragoza at home... neither is doing well, it's a weird season! QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 10 2007, 10:30 PM) IMO the two teams are equally bad that's fair!
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Feb 11 2007, 12:41 PM
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@ Jack. GREAT post (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) @ dst, you're very right on what you said, but about the Gago and Higuain bit, it's not about bias, it's what about what I see when they play and imo they wheren't worth all that money that Real spent on them and they certainly don't deserve to start every game, sure they need time to adjust but not in the way Real are doing it. They should come on as subs or play in non important matches to gel with the team. But when you get ripped off like Real where for them then you would expect for them to start every match and do well in every one of those matches
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Feb 11 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 11 2007, 01:41 PM) But when you get ripped off like Real where for them then you would expect for them to start every match and do well in every one of those matches They did that (spend big) on purpose. Now look, they also bought Marcelo, a young Brazilian LB and they bought him for little... is anyone going to buy his shirt right now?? Not many... On the other hand Higuain and Gago were bought as saviors, Real had already advertised them some months ago so people knew them... they're big sellers. They will have that money back by the end of the season...
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