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Ancelotti or a new one for 2006/07?
Ancelotti or a new one for 2006/07?
Ancelotti should stay as long as we can hold him [ 14 ] ** [42.42%]
Ancelotti should be sacked if we end up witout any trophy [ 10 ] ** [30.30%]
Ancelotti should be sacked anyway [ 4 ] ** [12.12%]
We should hire someone new with fresh ideas [ 5 ] ** [15.15%]
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Fillipo Simone
post May 29 2006, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ May 29 2006, 04:37 PM)
Well I would go for Henk ten Cate as he's the one that created Barca's game (ofcourse we'll never know that for sure cause the team is balanced enough to continue even without it's mastermind...) but he's already Ajax's coach...
The reason I want Ancelotti out is just because I believe his affair with Milan is over and not because we failed to win any silverware these past two years...
Now as it seems a few new boys are coming in,so I'l like to see Guus Hiddink as he's by far the best tactician worldwide and would be perfect to build up a (relatively) new team.I hope he is allowed to coach a club despite his contract with the Russian NT..
But anyway Ancelotti is staying till the end of next season at least so... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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I´ve been thinking more of a domicil coach, maybe a former player (our tradition...). Well, it seems that Donadoni did well with Livorno. And where is Gullit these days? Also, why not try Tassotti or Baresi? I know it´s kind off risky but still... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Altough Hiddink would be also good. But I feel that Rijkaard might be the next one, after this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) !
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post May 29 2006, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (novfan @ May 29 2006, 02:26 PM)
Are you forgetting the fact that Juve cheated? It's pretty difficult to finish in first place when another team is essentially fixing their matches. For me, Milan were the champions this year.

BTW....to hell with Chelsea.
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When I saw one of the poll questions about how he should be sacked because of 2 trophyless seasons that is exactly what I thought, how can you win a league when it has already bin fixed so that another team will surely win it. Not even the greatest coach there is out there right now could have effected the outcome of the last 2 seasons because even if we were winning it moggi would have done "something" to change things around. So to me the last 2 seasons don't count as failures because there was nothing we could do about them
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post May 29 2006, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 29 2006, 09:05 PM)
I´ve been thinking more of a domicil coach, maybe a former player (our tradition...). Well, it seems that Donadoni did well with Livorno. And where is Gullit these days? Also, why not try Tassotti or Baresi? I know it´s kind off risky but still... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Altough Hiddink would be also good. But I feel that Rijkaard might be the next one, after this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) !
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I think you're underestimating the job...Being a great footballer doesn't mean you can coach too...Most former players are useless as coaches!!Donadoni did a great job though, he'll be a good choice when Ancelotti's gone!

QUOTE (han2503 @ May 29 2006, 11:04 PM)
When I saw one of the poll questions about how he should be sacked because of 2 trophyless seasons that is exactly what I thought, how can you win a league when it has already bin fixed so that another team will surely win it. Not even the greatest coach there is out there right now could have effected the outcome of the last 2 seasons because even if we were winning it moggi would have done "something" to change things around. So to me the last 2 seasons don't count as failures because there was nothing we could do about them
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On the other hand we won the calcio two years ago...wasn't Juve cheating back then???I'm not offending Ance here, it's just a thought...And this year yeah we got 88 points but it wasn't that good a year..I mean we were definetely a better team two years ago and you know statistics are mostly bullsh!t... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 30 2006, 05:25 AM
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murinho, enough said.
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post May 30 2006, 11:25 AM
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Mourinho is cheap, I'll pass (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 30 2006, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ May 29 2006, 10:53 PM)
I think you're underestimating the job...Being a great footballer doesn't mean you can coach too...Most former players are useless as coaches!!Donadoni did a great job though, he'll be a good choice when Ancelotti's gone!
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Yes, if you had asked me this two years, I would have answered just like you did. But something is happening, and I can´t miss that - do you see the trend these last years? Good or famous ex-players grow into coaches practically over night, and not at some amateur level clubs, but at high and responsible positions. For example, Marco Van Basten or Jürgen Klinsmann, appointed as national coaches without any experience (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . For me, this would be unacceptable. And yes I know that NC jobs are not the same as CC jobs, still...Look at the clubs too - Sammer, Matthäus, even Mancini...So, I think the era of serious or grave coaches, like Nereo Rocco or some others is over. More and more players grow directly from the playing ground to the coaching bench. And I sugested Baresi cause he is a Milan icon with emense charisma and respect, so je would not be bad, maybe as a assistaint (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .

As for Mourinho at Milan...Nooooo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ! We dont need that kind of people here! He is a selfish destructionst who works only for his purposes and his methods are absolutely contrary to that of Milan. He is a one man show coach, and I am happy if he stays at Chelsea and continues his shows there. Can someone imagine what would be Joses reaction, hypothetical, on Ancelottis place now? After realizeing that Milan fighted two seasons (mmm to be honest, I doubt in some past Juve titles too, (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ) for the scudetto and, should have won, but Juve cheated (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ! He would blast of the whole Seria A and Milan altogether..Uhhh, and have you seen his reaction to Drogbas statement? No, no, he is a man without respect to anything. And Milan and his players, and fans, deserve much respect (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) .
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post May 30 2006, 05:28 PM
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Ancelotti should stay. Really we could have had 2 back to back champions league trophys. We were very unlucky to lose in istanbul and if it wasn't for a very poor refereeing decision against barcelona we could of very well won the trophy as in my eyes, that was the champions league final in itself
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post Jun 4 2006, 03:01 PM
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MArco Van Basten
He can change Milan more than Rijkard would change Barcelona.
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post Jun 5 2006, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jun 4 2006, 03:01 PM)
MArco Van Basten
He can change Milan more than Rijkard would change Barcelona.
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I´m not so sure about van Basten...If Milan should hire someone new, then certainly a man with experience and past achievments. And Marco fails here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 7 2006, 02:16 AM
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I think it's almost time for Ancelotti to go... He is a good coach, not a great one... he looks good when the team plays well but i think he has a couple of big problems as a coach

1. I think he doesn't read the game well. When a team doesn't play well, that is when coaching comes in. I can remember very few times where the team hasn't played well and he changed the game in our favor. Recently, I only remember when he put in Maldini for Gattuso against Lione so Serginho can move up to midfield and add some more attacking options. (then we won)
2. I think he plays favorites with certain players. I think he plays Seedorf WAY too much. Seedorf is a great player but does not deserve as much playing time as he gets. I think he underutilized Jankulovski who would provide more solutions offensively and defensively.

On top of that, I blame him for that Champions League Final against Liverpool. It's an embarassment to lose a game to a bad team after being up 3-0. He should've subbed out players like Seedorf and Pirlo to provide a little more defense and possesion. Kaladze and Dhorasso were on the bench when they could have helped.

The best things Ancelotti has done since he's been at Milan was installing an attacking mentality, inventing Pirlo's new position, playing Kaka over Rui Costa and Rivaldo, and moving Kaladze into the central defense this year.

After 2 years without trophies, it's time for him to leave and for us to thank him for what he has done for this team.

Preferred subs: Rijkaard, Van Basten, or Donadoni
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