[gal_kenny]

Seedorf is a genius and a big match player imo. He's intelligent, has an immense shot and a great passer of the ball.

His problems are the fact that he only shows up for the games that he wants to show up for, other then that if he decides he doesn't give a **** about the game he's going to walk around all game long and do nothing other then spray around some bad passes.

True that..hopefully this season it will be different

[MizNelson]

Seedorf has no motivation at all and yet is fully aware that Carlo will play him no matter what. That's dangerous.

[Habitant]

in the past we had no depth so he could get away with it, now that we have other options i hope he gets what he deserves.

[Fillipo Simone]

Seedorf has no motivation at all and yet is fully aware that Carlo will play him no matter what. That's dangerous.

Kaka will come back, you know..?

[kurtsimonw]

Kaka will come back, you know..?

I have a feeling Ambro will be dropped, and Seedorf will take his place on the left of the 3 in the 4-3-2-1 formation.

[Fillipo Simone]

I have a feeling Ambro will be dropped, and Seedorf will take his place on the left of the 3 in the 4-3-2-1 formation.

No chance,...Carletto loves the double DM team even more then he does Seedorf. Naah,..

But if he puts Seedorf deeper down in midfield, maybe Clarence could do better then. I don't know, I won't judge him based just on the Bologna match. He was bad, but not that bad...I've seen far worse, even from him.

[han2503]

No chance,...Carletto loves the double DM team even more then he does Seedorf. Naah,..

But if he puts Seedorf deeper down in midfield, maybe Clarence could do better then. I don't know, I won't judge him based just on the Bologna match. He was bad, but not that bad...I've seen far worse, even from him.

I've always thought he was better when he played there rather then in the attacking mid role. The only really good games I recall Seedorf having in this position were against Man U and Bayern.

As I've always said, against these smaller teams that like to defend I would like to see Seedorf in the midfield 3, but against teams like Inter Seedorf should be dropped for a second defensive mid

[Fillipo Simone]

I've always thought he was better when he played there rather then in the attacking mid role. The only really good games I recall Seedorf having in this position were against Man U and Bayern.

As I've always said, against these smaller teams that like to defend I would like to see Seedorf in the midfield 3, but against teams like Inter Seedorf should be dropped for a second defensive mid

Exactly. But not against Juve.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Bluesummers]

I've always thought he was better when he played there rather then in the attacking mid role. The only really good games I recall Seedorf having in this position were against Man U and Bayern.

As I've always said, against these smaller teams that like to defend I would like to see Seedorf in the midfield 3, but against teams like Inter Seedorf should be dropped for a second defensive mid

agreed 100% han. Right on as always.

[acid911]

As I've always said, against these smaller teams that like to defend I would like to see Seedorf in the midfield 3, but against teams like Inter Seedorf should be dropped for a second defensive mid

He was remarkassable against inter in the last derby. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) In fact, he along with Kaka was the only reason we won that match 2-1.

[Jack Sparrow]

There's no argument from my side, that Seedorf needs to be in the middle 3. Esp, since we no longer have the old pacy second striker which was Sheva. Pato's good, but has some way to go, before he can fit in that same role. In fact, I'd rather Pato didn't play the Sheva position, but made a brand new niche for himself. Like how Kaka did. He was brought into backup Rui, but his style of play is totally different and we have managed to integrate it.

Anyway back to my point, the fact is there was a difference with Seedorf in the middle 3, since that was when we had Nesta-Maldini in top form as our CB pairing. We also had Nesta-Kaladze, and Kaladze was solid. With our defence so shaky, playing just one destroyer player is a risk, esp against the big teams.

[han2503]

There's no argument from my side, that Seedorf needs to be in the middle 3. Esp, since we no longer have the old pacy second striker which was Sheva. Pato's good, but has some way to go, before he can fit in that same role. In fact, I'd rather Pato didn't play the Sheva position, but made a brand new niche for himself. Like how Kaka did. He was brought into backup Rui, but his style of play is totally different and we have managed to integrate it.

Anyway back to my point, the fact is there was a difference with Seedorf in the middle 3, since that was when we had Nesta-Maldini in top form as our CB pairing. We also had Nesta-Kaladze, and Kaladze was solid. With our defence so shaky, playing just one destroyer player is a risk, esp against the big teams.

Agreed on that, I don't think we should risk that against any of the big teams, but in games against the smaller teams it would be better having Seedorf rather then an extra defensive mid, we saw it yesterday were we still conceed despite playing 2. Our main problem is Kaladze, not the ammount of defensive mids we play imo

[Jack Sparrow]

And Maldini is either too old ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) or has just given up on trying to cover for Kaladze.

[han2503]

And Maldini is either too old ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) or has just given up on trying to cover for Kaladze.

Maldini just can't cover for Kaladze any more, he needs to be focused the entire game because if he's caught out position he doesn't have the speed anymore to track back and make the challenge, if this was 5 years ago then Maldini could cover Kaladze with no problem but not anymore.

In order for Kaladze to even look half decent he needs to have Nesta next to him constantly holding his hand.

And if Carlo does keep starting Kaladze once all of the CBs are fit I'll personally go over to milanello and shoot him

[Jack Sparrow]

Bet you won't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)