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Chamere
post Apr 12 2006, 06:57 PM
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What do you think about this player ? I think that he is Great player, he defends very good and plus he makes a lot of long passes to shevchenko and other players in front .
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dst
post Apr 12 2006, 07:01 PM
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welcome Chamere!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I think he's good as a center back!
I'm eager for Portugal's post (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 12 2006, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 12 2006, 10:01 PM)


You don't need to wait for Portugal's post! I'll say it for him! (But probably he can say more, (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
We discussed this player many times, and I and Portugal for many many times said that Kaladze isn't a Milan class player, he is not enough skillful, confident to player in such an important role as CB.

I've said before that in the center of defence he is under the cover of Nesta, may be he is good at fixing Nesta's mistakes!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) which are not that many!

Probably he is good enough to be a perfect substitute for Milan, but he definitly doesn't need to be in the first XI.

I want to see Milan with defence like 2-3 years ago and I think that he can't just handle that!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Thank you (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 12 2006, 09:41 PM
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I think in Defence he handles averything what milan needs,
and we (Milan Fans) must say "thank you" to kaladze for that thing called : We are in semi-final of Champions Legue (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If you saw tha match with lion you should know why (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
And not only for this
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post Apr 12 2006, 10:31 PM
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Well... this player (if we can consider him a player) is one of the worst players I have ever seen in my whole life.

I mean, he's not even a player for Inter... nor Treviso. Not even to my 3rd division team here in my town.

It's unbelievable. He's no RB, no LB... as a CB? Please... put Galliani playing instead...

I know he had some problems in his personal life (family) but I think that doesn't influence in the pitch (lately I think he's 100%). (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Man... when he'll leave Milan, I'll have a party down here. With champagne and all the stuff...

PS: I hope he doesn't play against Barcelona... will be a suicide. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 12 2006, 11:05 PM
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Welcome to Milanfan Chamere (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

I think Kaladze is a very good defender. His biggest problem in my opinion is the inconsistency of his performances!
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post Apr 13 2006, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 12 2006, 11:31 PM)
Well... this player (if we can consider him a player) is one of the worst players I have ever seen in my whole life.

I mean, he's not even a player for Inter... nor Treviso. Not even to my 3rd division team here in my town.

It's unbelievable. He's no RB, no LB... as a CB? Please... put Galliani playing instead...

I know he had some problems in his personal life (family) but I think that doesn't influence in the pitch (lately I think he's 100%).  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Man... when he'll leave Milan, I'll have a party down here. With champagne and all the stuff... 

PS: I hope he doesn't play against Barcelona... will be a suicide.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 13 2006, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 12 2006, 11:47 PM)
Brain is something that you apparently don't use at all. Try it. I think it will make wonders for you.
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Which part of these rule did your brain misunderstand? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 13 2006, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 13 2006, 02:21 AM)
Try to respect other people’s opinions. Personal attacks on other members will result in temporary bans/permanent suspensions


It was a good suggestion for you base on your post. Here another one try to respect other people.period.

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post Apr 13 2006, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 13 2006, 12:46 AM)
It was a good suggestion for you base on your post. Here another one try to respect other people.period.
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I just said he's a bad player. Period.

Respect the others opinions.
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post Apr 13 2006, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 13 2006, 02:52 AM)
I just said he's a bad player. Period.

Respect the others opinions.
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There is ways to say it without insulting him.
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post Apr 13 2006, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 13 2006, 12:59 AM)
There is ways to say it without insulting him.
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I just told my opinion.

I don't think that my 'opinion' (the one I wrote) is with insults to the person K.Kaladze.

If someone think that was ofensive... just report to the admins/moderators, instead of writting on the thread.

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post Apr 13 2006, 03:26 AM
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Boys boys , don't get all touchy now (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think he's a good, sometimes very good defender. Greatness will come in years perhaps , but not now .


To the people who thinks he is the worst player ... AC Milan disagrees with you (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

@Mishale , just relax dude , it's his oppinion and he's entitled to it. Just keep it easy with the insulting , k ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@Portugal , People here love Milan , it's only normal they get upset when you insult or bash the player(s) he/she loves. You should know that by now dude (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 13 2006, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Apr 13 2006, 06:26 AM)
People here love Milan , it's only normal they get upset when you insult or bash the player(s) he/she loves.  You should know that by now dude  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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But he doesn't deserve to be a Milan player. That's the whole story!!!!
If this is an insult to Kaladzez, please start judging me.
And by the way, "insults" like this we can read everywhere in the forum, after some bad games or poor performance.
Players can change (except some of them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), but Milan stays Milan, a team which we love, and "inslulting" players doesn't mean we stop admiring Milan!!
And I personali think that loveing players is not definitly greater then loveing Milan.
Mathemeticly it would look like this LP < LM (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 13 2006, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Apr 12 2006, 09:43 PM)
Probably he is good enough to be a perfect substitute for Milan, but he definitly doesn't need to be in the first XI.
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he's not!!he's playing in the first XI because we needed to do so...

QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 12 2006, 11:31 PM)
Well... this player (if we can consider him a player) is one of the worst players I have ever seen in my whole life.

I mean, he's not even a player for Inter... nor Treviso. Not even to my 3rd division team here in my town.

It's unbelievable. He's no RB, no LB... as a CB? Please... put Galliani playing instead...

I know he had some problems in his personal life (family) but I think that doesn't influence in the pitch (lately I think he's 100%).  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Man... when he'll leave Milan, I'll have a party down here. With champagne and all the stuff... 

PS: I hope he doesn't play against Barcelona... will be a suicide.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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HA HA (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
that was what I was waiting for!!!great post.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
mishale be cool he just expressed his opinion...us considering him a good player is probably an insult to him too... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
anyway I think he's very very good for a substitute...for the first XI he'd be great but...
I mean that his main charachteristic is the way he defends when his opponent ain't got the ball...I play as a defender too so I always watch carefully on defenders more..If you have the right position behind the player he won't be given the ball!!not at all..not if the game lasts 1000 minutes!!!and he does that very good!!!but what separates Kaladze from a Nesta/Maldini quality player is that he always (in every single game) he does at least one (very) big mistake.We haven't paid for it yet (not in the cl that is) cause our defence managed to cover it up and/or our opponents didn't use those "gifts" correctly!!!
but Portugal, considering if KK is actually a player is wrong in my opinion...I think you hate the guy so much and that doesn't allow you to judge him right...give him a break!!we bought him to play as a CB, we placed him to play on the right and not until recently we let him play as we bought him for...you need experience on how your teammates play..it's just some things that can make you great..Kolo Toure was lame last year and now his performances are exquisite...I believe KK has the potential to obtain these things.
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