[X-Offender]

Hernanes is a great player, I'd take him in an instant, same goes with Kovacic at Inter. From Juve I'd take Pogba, Vidal and Marchisio in a heart beat. And don't get me started on Roma's midfielders!

I think Serie A has come of the most talented midfielders currently around, none of which are playing at Milan

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[kurtsimonw]

I wish we'd gone in for Hernanes when he was going to leave Lazio. It's not like he was massively expensive.

[Danny]

Personally, biased no doubt, speaking, the only midfielder I'd take from Serie A would be Hamsik.

Pogba is GARBAGE in the big matches, and for his country. Marchisio - well, De Jong is better.

I think midfield is one area we are very strong in - De Jong, Jack and MvG to name 3.

[kurtsimonw]

I'd still take Pogba, he's incredible. As for Marchisio, he's a completely different player to De Jong. I like quite a lot of Serie A MFs personally.

[X-Offender]

Pogba is GARBAGE in the big matches, and for his country. Marchisio - well, De Jong is better.

He's only 21, and garbage is an overstatement. Pogba is by far the best youngster in the world right now, and in a cpuple of years will be one of the Top 5 midfielders in the world.

[han2503]

Personally, biased no doubt, speaking, the only midfielder I'd take from Serie A would be Hamsik.

Pogba is GARBAGE in the big matches, and for his country. Marchisio - well, De Jong is better.

I think midfield is one area we are very strong in - De Jong, Jack and MvG to name 3.

Garbage? don't go too far now, he's an amazing player, I'd give Juve anyone on our squad to trade him. And Marchisio is a completely different type of player to De Jong, one would have nothing to do with the other and I'd still take him over anyone in our current midfield.

Best mids in Serie A for me are:

Vidal
Pjanic
Pogba
Strootman
De Rossi
Marchisio
Nianggolan
Pirlo
Hamsik
Hernanes
De Jong
Kovacic

Then there are the likes of Florenzi, Valero, Monto, etc but they're not good enough to be in that list, which imo is pretty extensive and only contains one Milan player in it. Says it all

[Fillipo Simone]

Personally, biased no doubt, speaking, the only midfielder I'd take from Serie A would be Hamsik.

Pogba is GARBAGE in the big matches, and for his country. Marchisio - well, De Jong is better.

I think midfield is one area we are very strong in - De Jong, Jack and MvG to name 3.

Garbage in big matches you say? How can you seriously make this qualification? Look, he's only 21, still a million big games he has to deal with. One (against us) he did very well this season. The main thing with Pogba is that he's consistently developing over the past few seasons with Juventus. From the moment they signed him up until now he's nothing but going straight forward.

As for Milan. You cannot judge on van Ginkel, the guy hasn't played even one full match with Milan. Bonaventura and de Jong - yes. They can make the cut. Poli and Montolivo could as well, if only they weren't that limited and inconsistent.

[Danny]

Iturbe is brilliant in the big games. Same age.

That excuse doesn't wash.

[X-Offender]

Iturbe is brilliant in the big games. Same age.

That excuse doesn't wash.

Pato was brilliant at 18 for that matter.

Thing is, you can't say Pogba is garbage in big games, because first he hasn't been garbage. Poor, maybe subpar, but garbage is an overstatement. Second, like Fillipo said, the progress he's made at Juve the past two years has been incredible. At only 21 he's a serious candidate for one of the best midfielders in the world. He has high class for a box-to-box mid, he's super strong physically, great shot, excellent work rate. No wonder all big European powerhouses are in line to sign him. Juve truly hit the jackpot with him.

[Jack Bauer]

Thing is, you can't say Pogba is garbage in big games, because first he hasn't been garbage. Poor, maybe subpar, but garbage is an overstatement. Second, like Fillipo said, the progress he's made at Juve the past two years has been incredible. At only 21 he's a serious candidate for one of the best midfielders in the world. He has high class for a box-to-box mid, he's super strong physically, great shot, excellent work rate. No wonder all big European powerhouses are in line to sign him. Juve truly hit the jackpot with him.

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[Forza Milan!]

No, I really want to read what you would follow your "but" with. Because honestly I do not understand how you could compare Juve to Man U and say "therefore your argument has no merit"

Me and x-off never said that he would implode the squad, we always said that we'd still expect him to win the league comfortably should their management be able to keep the core of the team together which they did. So I personally still think that they'll steamroll through this league without much problems, whether it's Allegri, Mourinho or the 3 stooges that is coaching them

Like I said, at this point I'm mostly interested to see if Allegri can go one step further in the CL than Conte ever did with them because that's the area where they can really achieve something note worthy as they've already hit and broken through the ceiling domestically

Looks like CL is not going all that well for them. Olympiacos is a good team and they were playing at home, but I expected Juve to do better.

In general, IMHO it would be very hard for any Juve coach not to dominate Serie A right now, so the fact that Juve is winning is not a big surprise. The question is what will happen in 1-2 years.

As for the comparison with Man U, I do not believe it is relevant. Juve is a solid team, Conte left it in very good shape. Looks to me like Man U was falling apart, and was being held together by Ferguson. Also, Juve has little competition in Serie A, while Man U faces intense competition in EP.

[Danny]

Pato was brilliant at 18 for that matter.

He'd be brilliant today if not for his mistakes and injuries.

Thing is, you can't say Pogba is garbage in big games, because first he hasn't been garbage. Poor, maybe subpar, but garbage is an overstatement. Second, like Fillipo said, the progress he's made at Juve the past two years has been incredible. At only 21 he's a serious candidate for one of the best midfielders in the world. He has high class for a box-to-box mid, he's super strong physically, great shot, excellent work rate. No wonder all big European powerhouses are in line to sign him. Juve truly hit the jackpot with him.

Don't agree. Until we see him 'hitting the jackpot' v Chelsea and not just Cesena, he's nothing more than overhyped promise who can't do it on the big stage.

[Danny]

Pato was brilliant at 18 for that matter.

He'd be brilliant today if not for his mistakes and injuries.

Thing is, you can't say Pogba is garbage in big games, because first he hasn't been garbage. Poor, maybe subpar, but garbage is an overstatement. Second, like Fillipo said, the progress he's made at Juve the past two years has been incredible. At only 21 he's a serious candidate for one of the best midfielders in the world. He has high class for a box-to-box mid, he's super strong physically, great shot, excellent work rate. No wonder all big European powerhouses are in line to sign him. Juve truly hit the jackpot with him.

Don't agree. Until we see him 'hitting the jackpot' v Chelsea and not just Cesena, he's nothing more than overhyped promise who can't do it on the big stage.

[X-Offender]

Sampdoria 0-0 Roma

If we win tomorrow we're 3rd.

[kurtsimonw]

Pogba's definitely the best prospect in football right now. He's had some good games against the other top Serie A sides too. He was very good at the World Cup too.

As for hitting the jackpot, they signed him for nothing and will get a minimum 30m for him. I think that's what X-Off meant.