17 Pages V  « < 6 7 8 9 10 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Summer Transfers 2022

 
X-Offender
post Jul 2 2022, 08:08 PM
Post #106


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 2 2022, 02:34 PM) *
What do you guys think of dybala move??


Not a big fan. I think he's a washed up player who's been very mediocre in the last 2-3 years. Not to mention his injuries.

Plus I think he fits much better in Inter's two-striker system. People keep considering Dybala a #10, but in reality he's a second striker. He's not an AM. Even the Brahim comparison some people make is wrong. Brahim works his @ss off, runs and presses like a madman. Dybala is somebody who mostly walks on the pitch when he doesn't have the ball. Never dream of him tracking back to help the midfield.

I'd rather get Ziyech on loan and buy De Ketelaere. And hopefully we get Sanches as well.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 2 2022, 04:52 PM) *
Just meant that the more people RedBird owes money to in the deal the more problems that could arise. At least that is what I got from the article you posted, that this Indian investor would be there to help finance the purchase rather than be a part-owner and therefore more billionaires backing the club


It wouldn't exactly be a loan, though. Rather, he would partecipate in the investment and become a co-investor in the club. Cardinale has been very active in the last few weeks to raise the necessary capital needed for the purchase. In turn, this creates a conglomerate of wealthy investors that would inject fresh money when the club needs it, and it also decreases the amount that RedBird needs to borrow from Elliott to finalise the deal.

Last I read, RedBird had collected 600m, and are close to collecting another 300m. Meaning that from the 1.2b purchase price, only 300m will be loaned by Elliott in the form of a vendor loan. This was before this Indian guy talk, though.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
han2503
post Jul 3 2022, 02:10 PM
Post #107


Prima Squadra
Group Icon

Group: Moderators
Posts: 39,640
Joined: 6-January 06
From: Malta
Member No.: 1,109



QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 2 2022, 08:08 PM) *
Not a big fan. I think he's a washed up player who's been very mediocre in the last 2-3 years. Not to mention his injuries.

Plus I think he fits much better in Inter's two-striker system. People keep considering Dybala a #10, but in reality he's a second striker. He's not an AM. Even the Brahim comparison some people make is wrong. Brahim works his @ss off, runs and presses like a madman. Dybala is somebody who mostly walks on the pitch when he doesn't have the ball. Never dream of him tracking back to help the midfield.

I'd rather get Ziyech on loan and buy De Ketelaere. And hopefully we get Sanches as well.

I wouldn't say he's washed up per se. I think his injuries are a major concern for sure. But he has been stuck in the Juve football cemetery for too long. Allegri even managed to make a tank like Vlahovic look mediocre within a few weeks

I think Dybala would fit, but he's not worth the 6m+ he's requesting. For 4m I'd take him

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 2 2022, 08:08 PM) *
It wouldn't exactly be a loan, though. Rather, he would partecipate in the investment and become a co-investor in the club. Cardinale has been very active in the last few weeks to raise the necessary capital needed for the purchase. In turn, this creates a conglomerate of wealthy investors that would inject fresh money when the club needs it, and it also decreases the amount that RedBird needs to borrow from Elliott to finalise the deal.

Last I read, RedBird had collected 600m, and are close to collecting another 300m. Meaning that from the 1.2b purchase price, only 300m will be loaned by Elliott in the form of a vendor loan. This was before this Indian guy talk, though.

So basically they would be shareholders? Not other companies just loaning the money to RedBird?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 3 2022, 02:54 PM
Post #108


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 3 2022, 02:10 PM) *
I think Dybala would fit, but he's not worth the 6m+ he's requesting. For 4m I'd take him


Oh come on, man. You have a good understanding of tactics. How would a Leao-Dybala-Ziyech line provide any sort of equilibrium to the team? Tonali and Bennacer would be left at the mercy of the opponent.

We need someone like Sanches or De Ketelaere in that AM slot, not Dybala. Not to mention his overall physical condition is very precarious.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 3 2022, 02:10 PM) *
So basically they would be shareholders? Not other companies just loaning the money to RedBird?


Basically.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 4 2022, 03:13 PM
Post #109


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



Looks like we've reached an agreement with Chelsea about Ziyech regarding the formula of the operation: loan + obligation to buy. The parties are discussing on the amount. We offer 5+20, Chelsea want 5+25.

I think our offer is very acceptable. 30m for a 29-year-old who comes from two lukewarm seasons is too much.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
William405
post Jul 4 2022, 07:22 PM
Post #110


Allievi Regionali B
********

Group: Full Members
Posts: 6,098
Joined: 24-February 10
From: Lebanon
Member No.: 7,239



Kessie to Barca official.
Adli to Milan official.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 4 2022, 08:23 PM
Post #111


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 4 2022, 07:22 PM) *
Kessie to Barca official.
Adli to Milan official.


Adli has been official since last summer man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
William405
post Jul 4 2022, 11:40 PM
Post #112


Allievi Regionali B
********

Group: Full Members
Posts: 6,098
Joined: 24-February 10
From: Lebanon
Member No.: 7,239



QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 4 2022, 10:23 PM) *
Adli has been official since last summer man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Oh well true 🤣🤣🤣
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 5 2022, 10:06 PM
Post #113


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



More and more confirmations about our concrete interest in De Ketelaere. They're now saying Pioli called him on the phone personally. Our first offer of 20m was obviously rejected, but it was just a first move to open negotiations. Now they're saying we've increased it to 25m. I think at 30m plus any potential bonuses it could be settled.

I really, really hope we sign this guy. He gives me very good vibes. I really like his movements and passing, seems very smart on and off the ball. A Leao-CDK-Ziyech offensive line would be amazing, and a huge improvement from the Brahim, Alexis, Messias etc. mediocrity of last season.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
CrazyMilanFan
post Jul 6 2022, 12:17 PM
Post #114


Allievi Nazionali
*********

Group: Full Members
Posts: 8,029
Joined: 4-May 08
From: Pakistan
Member No.: 3,873



leeds have outbid us for De Ketelaere
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 6 2022, 12:31 PM
Post #115


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 6 2022, 12:17 PM) *
leeds have outbid us for De Ketelaere


I know. They've offered 30m, which, as I said, is what we'll eventually end up paying for him. Plus any bonuses.

QUOTE
According to HLN in Belgium, Leeds have actually made their opening move by tabling a proposal that could rise to ?30million with add-ons.

However, the Whites have now been dealt a cruel blow after it emerged the player would prefer to join AC Milan.


Obviously.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
CrazyMilanFan
post Jul 6 2022, 02:26 PM
Post #116


Allievi Nazionali
*********

Group: Full Members
Posts: 8,029
Joined: 4-May 08
From: Pakistan
Member No.: 3,873



All at Milan management like the player, we are offering 20m i think we should just quickly raise itnto 30 because that seems reasonable in today's day and age. I think they are even mentioning Southampton now. I hope no bigger name comes in with the offer
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
han2503
post Jul 6 2022, 08:51 PM
Post #117


Prima Squadra
Group Icon

Group: Moderators
Posts: 39,640
Joined: 6-January 06
From: Malta
Member No.: 1,109



QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 3 2022, 02:54 PM) *
Oh come on, man. You have a good understanding of tactics. How would a Leao-Dybala-Ziyech line provide any sort of equilibrium to the team? Tonali and Bennacer would be left at the mercy of the opponent.

We need someone like Sanches or De Ketelaere in that AM slot, not Dybala. Not to mention his overall physical condition is very precarious.

Whether he'd fit or not is the least of my concern regarding him because he's a great player. His fitness is the biggest question mark. Especially for the amount he wants

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 4 2022, 03:13 PM) *
Looks like we've reached an agreement with Chelsea about Ziyech regarding the formula of the operation: loan + obligation to buy. The parties are discussing on the amount. We offer 5+20, Chelsea want 5+25.

I think our offer is very acceptable. 30m for a 29-year-old who comes from two lukewarm seasons is too much.

This is getting tedious now. We've been reading this same BS for 2 weeks now. We better close this ASAP so we can integrate him into the squad

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 5 2022, 10:06 PM) *
More and more confirmations about our concrete interest in De Ketelaere. They're now saying Pioli called him on the phone personally. Our first offer of 20m was obviously rejected, but it was just a first move to open negotiations. Now they're saying we've increased it to 25m. I think at 30m plus any potential bonuses it could be settled.

I really, really hope we sign this guy. He gives me very good vibes. I really like his movements and passing, seems very smart on and off the ball. A Leao-CDK-Ziyech offensive line would be amazing, and a huge improvement from the Brahim, Alexis, Messias etc. mediocrity of last season.

Let's see. I think if we really believe in him we'll get it done/ Just as we did with Leao and Tomori for example, we were willing to invest bigger sums because they believed the potential was there

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 6 2022, 12:17 PM) *
leeds have outbid us for De Ketelaere

Doesn't want to go there from what I'm reading

It's really sad, the situation we now find ourselves in. Being outbid by f@cking Leeds! And these Prem fanatics where b!tching about a super league (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
han2503
post Jul 6 2022, 08:53 PM
Post #118


Prima Squadra
Group Icon

Group: Moderators
Posts: 39,640
Joined: 6-January 06
From: Malta
Member No.: 1,109



We're apparently going to make the Messias deal permanent.

I really don't get this. He was pretty average throughout the season, he's nearly 30, has no resale value and we have so many bodies in the RW position we really need to offload 2 with Ziyech potentially coming in
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 6 2022, 10:22 PM
Post #119


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 6 2022, 08:53 PM) *
We're apparently going to make the Messias deal permanent.

I really don't get this. He was pretty average throughout the season, he's nearly 30, has no resale value and we have so many bodies in the RW position we really need to offload 2 with Ziyech potentially coming in


I think we're signing him precisely because he has no resale value, whereas somebody like Saelemaekers could provide us with a decent 15m.

And let's be honest, between the two Messias was the better player last year.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

 
X-Offender
post Jul 6 2022, 10:34 PM
Post #120


The brightest sun is the purest gun
************

Group: Full Members
Posts: 26,840
Joined: 23-June 06
From: Albania
Member No.: 2,008



QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 6 2022, 08:51 PM) *
It's really sad, the situation we now find ourselves in. Being outbid by f@cking Leeds! And these Prem fanatics where b!tching about a super league (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


It's the Serie A in general. I read that Brentford are about to sign Aaron Hickey from Bologna for 22m. Fucking Brentford, man!

Anyway, I wanted to bring some evidence about how pathetic Italian journalism is nowadays.

Sportmediaset reported today an article on their front page which read "Milan, be aware of Leeds: huge offer for De Keteleare!". So, I went inside the article and at some point it read "The English club, in fact, would be willing to pay 35 million euros plus 5 bonus into the coffers of Brugge, as reported by the Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws."

So, in turn I went and found that article by this Het Laatste Nieuws source, translated it into English, and at some point it said "In the meantime, Club Brugge received a concrete offer from Leeds United in recent days. Italian sources yesterday spoke of an amount of 30 million euros with bonuses. All together, however, the transfer fee can easily reach 35 million".

So, let me get this right. Sportmediaset cites this Belgian paper, which in turns cites Italian sources as their source. And in addition, it says the offer is 30m that with add-ons could reach 35m, whereas Sporrmediaset reports 35+5 from the same source.

I mean, this is plain ridiculous.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post


17 Pages V  « < 6 7 8 9 10 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 26th April 2024 - 04:25 AM