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All CL talk for the new season here

[Fillipo Simone]

Mostly inferior players to Monaco???? Please, do tell more about this. What's the score?

[Danny]

Mostly inferior players to Monaco???? Please, do tell more about this. What's the score?

0-2.

I'd rather have Mbappe and Falcao than Dybala and Higuain for a start. Then there's Moutinho, Mendy, Glik, and Sidibe. Juve have only one player I'd say is stronger than what Monaco have - Buffon over Subasic.

As a collective Juve have a better defence but individually the players are not special. No one is going to tell me Chiellini is a great defender - the guy is brutal. What he IS is a great leader. Alongside workhorses. And that makes their backline incredibly tough to get past.

[X-Offender]

0-2.

I'd rather have Mbappe and Falcao than Dybala and Higuain for a start. Then there's Moutinho, Mendy, Glik, and Sidibe. Juve have only one player I'd say is stronger than what Monaco have - Buffon over Subasic.

As a collective Juve have a better defence but individually the players are not special. No one is going to tell me Chiellini is a great defender - the guy is brutal. What he IS is a great leader. Alongside workhorses. And that makes their backline incredibly tough to get past.

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Juve have a team full of top players. Buffon, Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Khedira, Marchisio, Pjanic, Cuadrado, Dybala, Higuain. Who the hell are Moutinho, Glik, Sidibe et al in comparison? They don't even come close. The only player that can compete in this context is Mbappe, and that's it.

[Jack Sparrow]

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Juve have a team full of top players. Buffon, Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Khedira, Marchisio, Pjanic, Cuadrado, Dybala, Higuain. Who the hell are Moutinho, Glik, Sidibe et al in comparison? They don't even come close. The only player that can compete in this context is Mbappe, and that's it.

Yeah actually. Mbappe vs Dybala and Higuain vs a fully fit Falcao are the only times when Monaco draw with Juve on talent. Rest of the time, Juve win.

In any case the individuality doesn't matter. Football in this decade has all been about collective efforts in defense and attack, and as much automation of plays as possible. It's almost becoming like American football. Ugh!

Soon football coaches will have a playbook and registas will call plays in advance.

[Danny]

Yeah actually. Mbappe vs Dybala and Higuain vs a fully fit Falcao are the only times when Monaco draw with Juve on talent. Rest of the time, Juve win.

For those who don't know Monaco's players, maybe...

In any case the individuality doesn't matter. Football in this decade has all been about collective efforts in defense and attack, and as much automation of plays as possible. It's almost becoming like American football. Ugh!

This is why Juve have been a huge success. It's not about individual quality as much any more, but about tactics and team effort. One thing I will say that they have over both Barca and Monaco is physical strength. They're big lads - only wee players I can think of at Juve are Dybala and maybe Pjanic. Rest are all mountains.