exactly thank you.

It's a point. But my most optimistic guess would be, Milan have only agreed to talk terms, because if they were to dismiss the deal outright, almost inevitably we would have to deal with new contract talks. The last time we rejected Madrid, Kaka got a payhike.

And now don't forget we would be rejecting a bid, that's going to put KAka on a 15 MM a year contract. Milan would be hoping that Kaka says no to more money.

His dad and agent are going to get HUGE money...HUGE. Of course they would pressure the board to accept the transfer dealing, and let them talk terms.

Kaka's father, Bosco, is also his agent. He's the one who basically forced Milan to repeatedly rework Kaka's contract under the threat of Kaka's possible departure to Madrid. If Kaka goes to Man City, his father will pocket a cool 30 million.

I don't think I'll be posting anywhere for awhile after tonight, as I need to take a break from all this Kaka overload. Heck, I think the airline passengers in the Hudson had it easier than this.

This post has been edited by MizNelson: Jan 17 2009, 08:57 AM

"Pressure the board"? Kaka's own daddy?!! come one Jack. you shouldn't say that. one minute you are praising the board as the most professional in the world, with +20 years of experience, the next you say Kaka's daddy is pressuring them?! it's all up to the management. if they want Kaka, Kaka stays. if they don't want Kaka/want the money, Kaka leaves.

Kaka HAS NOT requested a transfer to Manchester fucking City like Sheva did with Chelsea. the only reason this is still going on is because Milan allowed Kaka's agents to talk to Man City. Milan want the money, Kaka's agents want the money, Kaka doesn't want to leave.

I'd be really sorry if he was forced [by whomever] to leave Milan. I'm sure this will have so many consequences that money cannot recuperate.

Hopefully the fans [especially the curva sud] boycott the home games tickets! I'm sure they will do something to make their voice heard.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jan 17 2009, 09:07 AM

Of course. But this is where the board is different unfortunately or fortunately. I already said our board won't do what Manchester United did (A lot of admirers for the way they hung onto Ronaldo) but what they said was he'll rot on the stands but they won't let him go. And this was with the player saying he'll like to leave.

So if Kaka's daddy is pressuring them, then would they take that step? I don't think so. Hence why this might be happening. For all you know, Kaka's advisors probably even told the board that Kaka was willing to leave, if Milan would only sell. And now there is frantic backtracking going on. That might have even been the reason for Kaka's argument in the dressing room and subsequent tears.

See, right now, we can just float conspiracy theories each tilting to the side we support (a helpless management or a martyr Kaka).

I find it difficult to believe a management who for 20 years turned away from such an attitude will suddenly do so. This is not the first time. We've had huge offers come in for Paolo and Sheva from Madrid. By the standards of the time they were enormous. And we rejected them. I know the argument is we're not strengthening a direct rival...but whatever.

We'll see, only time will tell. Juve got over Zidane, so if Kaka leaves we'll get over him as well. Not without pain, but it'll happen. IF we sell.

In fact the longer this thing draws on, the more hopeful I'am that we're hitting glitches. That perhaps even the board might have been lied to by the agents involved. It happened with Ronaldinho remember?

I mean all Kaka has to do is go to Silvio and say he isn't leaving right? That ought to end discussion.

Kaladze says he's confident Kaka won't leave.

Oh..and Carlo in his press conference says the matter is totally out of his hands, he just wants Kaka to stay. So much for it being Carlo's team. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Damn!

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Jan 17 2009, 09:22 AM

This is so absurd!!!
Well, if this deal go through and Kaka will be a Man Fockin City player, im sure they will awoken the wrath of fans all around the world (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Maybe one or two person wont but who cares!!

I'm not talkin about AC Kaka (WTF?) or whatever you want to call them, but Kaka is the biggest star player at the moment and the fans won't accept that the fact it is the management who betrays the player. True, Kaka is not bigger that AC Milan, but imagine how many, millions fans that follows Milan solely because of Kaka, especially the young generation. They won't know about how cool is Don Silvio, how big is the stadium at San Siro, how great is Baresi. Think about it in another angle; how many stars or even half stars that Seria A has at the moment? 2? 3? And Kaka is the main attraction, together with maybe Beckham or Totti.

I embrace the fact that EPL and La Liga is much better than Serie A. In terms of media coverage, fans, the atmosphere, stadium, economy, we are on the same par as Bundesliga or Scotland league. If Kaka leaves, we can a dramatically downturn in all aspects, most probably and it wont be pretty!!!

yup i've been trying to say that all along. I'm one of those fans who was brought in by sheva/kaka solely. I didn't know who maldini or co was. This transfer will cost us more than just losing kaka. But dont take it from me, observe for yourself if this deal goes through.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jan 17 2009, 10:23 AM

I disagree, because it's also Kaka's wish to stay. why would the management ignore what they want, and what Kaka wants, and listen to Bosco Leite?! it doesn't make any make sense.

I know your love for the management and all, but in this case, it's different. I doubt EVER has such a big offer been made. neither for Maldini nor for Sheva. it's just that no player on earth is worth that money and yet Man City are willing to pay it. that should explain why for the first time in 20 years, Milan are doing what you find so difficult to believe.

Kaka's father is behind this, true, but he is not the one who decides. otherwise Kaka would have been already in Madrid.



I don't think it's that simple because Kaka has said if they don't want him, he will leave. Milan allowing Man City to talk to Kaka's agent(s) is exactly like sending a message that Kaka is not wanted anymore.

I hate this kind of argument when people starts to question others passion about the club, "how loyal are you" thingy like they are the biggest fan on god's green earth. I do think that everyone is entitled to their opinion, be it to put Maldini as the same level as Kaka or whatnot. This is how they perceived it, it's no illusion to them and we dont have to avtually teach them what to think or try to dictate their action whatsoever.

Well, argument will get you nowhere. I'm going to watch this saga unfolds.

My question is (everything here is hypotetical, so is this question) - does Kaka reject to move to Manchester City or does he simply reject to move. Maybe the board felt Kaka will move eventually to Madrid who just cannot pay the same amount, so they accepted the mega-MC-bid?

Also, the father-son relationship is tuff, we should know that. Of course it comes to Kaka and Milan, but his father can also decide. Not directly, but it's that mental pressure parents pull off every now and then.

If Kaka was so desperate to leave, why didn't he leave for Real two years ago [the offer back then was not that small after all...]. unless he is Nostradamus, how could he know that in a few years' time some Crazy Arabs will take over at City and make a +£100M offer for him?

So I don't think this is the case.

Corriere dello Sport (completely unreliable source for Milan news) reported that Kaka is demanding a 2010 release clause in his Man City contract, yadda yadda yadda.

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Jan 17 2009, 11:18 AM

But we are not in debt. I remember Galliani bragging about it not a long time ago, when the financial crisis started...

If Don Cesare isn't sure about it, how could we be?