[Rossoneri7]

With Barca the reason has always been obvious, when you have Eto'o or Villa ahead of you then there's no need to question it

With Milan and Roma it's mostly because of it being a loan essentially and because they wouldn't like to raise his price, but when you have a lamp-post like Niang as your only option loan or not, you HAVE to play Bojan. I think he's done very decently for a player of his stature who is used to the silly frilly La Liga in how he transitioned to Serie A. He's been impressive for us when given the proper opportunities

Huh, KPB was a loan option as well, and he was fundamental in our Scudetto season. Bojan is a good player, don't get me wrong, and a quality one at that, but he lacks a lot to take a starting spot at Milan. If Niang starts ahead of him, that should tell you something, no? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Huh, KPB was a loan option as well, and he was fundamental in our Scudetto season. Bojan is a good player, don't get me wrong, and a quality one at that, but he lacks a lot to take a starting spot at Milan. If Niang starts ahead of him, that should tell you something, no? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

KPB did not have 12m hanging over his head though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Galliani practically admitted that Bojan's lack of use is down to the loan deal that was agreed with Barca

Oh please!! Niang is as bad as Traore FFS. Allegri likes him because he's a physical player but the moment we needed him to actually win a physical battle he punked out like a little b!tch and cost us the tie. Niang is a dead topic for me. So far he's proven that he's nothing but mediocre and it won't be long before he disappeares into the abyss of previous "talented" players that came and went

[Rossoneri7]

Niang starting ahead of Bojan should mean something to you then, buyout clause or no buyout clause!

You know what this situation reminds me of? The Viera and Henry one. They were both ineffective against the Serie A defensive discipline .. Yet they turned out to being nothing short of WC, Niang is 18 FFS, give him time.

[X-Offender]

Do you actually like Bojan or do you just like to nitpick? I agree he's a nice player but I just don't think he's cut out for Serie A. I'd love for him to prove me wrong though.

No, it really irks me that he's been completely ignored by Allegri. He's done well on many occasions, he's fast and very technically gifted, can play on various positions, and well, I'd choose him over the likes of Niang and Robinho any day of the week.

If Niang starts ahead of him, that should tell you something, no? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes, it tells me that Allegri is a f*cking moron. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You know what strikes me? That even though he's played little to nothing in these last few months, Bojan seems very cheerful and serene in various interviews, in training or when the camera focuses him with other players. Even in the Sion match he looked happy. Normally, a player who's constantly ignored by his coach and doesn't play would be upset, but I don't see that in Bojan. He's even mentioned a few times that he'd like to stay with this club as long as possible. So, maybe the fact that he doesn't play really is just an elusive tactic by Galliani to lower his price. Maybe him and Bojan have made a gentleman's agreement that the club will sign him at the end of the season. It does sound a bit far-fetched, but after the Silva and Aquilani fiascos, nothing is impossible with this management.

[Rossoneri7]

Yes, it tells me that Allegri is a f*cking moron. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The same moron that steered Milan from the pits of Serie A to a proud position on the table? With Bojan's goals and assists right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Galliani is not pulling on anybody's legs, Bojan is a decent backup in case SES, Pazzini, and Robinho didn't step up to the occasions. Bojan played his fair share and was assessed accordingly by the backroom staff and management, whom no offense to you X-Off know more than we do about our players. Bojan could very well be shipped back to Barcelona or stay at Milan. But he is not going to start ahead of Niang, that is by now engraved in stone.

[han2503]

The same moron that steered Milan from the pits of Serie A to a proud position on the table? With Bojan's goals and assists right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Galliani is not pulling on anybody's legs, Bojan is a decent backup in case SES, Pazzini, and Robinho didn't step up to the occasions. Bojan played his fair share and was assessed accordingly by the backroom staff and management, whom no offense to you X-Off know more than we do about our players. Bojan could very well be shipped back to Barcelona or stay at Milan. But he is not going to start ahead of Niang, that is by now engraved in stone.

Yeah, because Niang does a whole f@cking lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The kid who gets in trouble with the police, fights about taking freekicks, sulks when he doesn't start and talks over the social media to contradict his coach, disappeares when we actually need him to do something decent and for a striker, wouldn't know how to hit the target if the net was as wide as the f@cking field!!

Yeah, I see where the engraved in stone comment comes from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Yeah, I see where the engraved in stone comment comes from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Actually it comes from the starting line up of Milan in official games, don't mix it up with friendlies (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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[han2503]

Actually it comes from the starting line up of Milan in official games, don't mix it up with friendlies (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Actually he hasn't started a game since Barca and that's because we had our back to the wall, and we learned our lesson on that front (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

He hasn't been starting games in the league for a while now so that says it all about his "talent"

How you or anyone else could seriously compare him to Vieira or Henry is beyond me. Those 2 players showed a lot of potential but it could not be realised in a Serie A that was undoubtedly the best league in the world at the time, so no, it's top teams were not going to waste their time on "potentially great" they only wanted great

But Niang? it's insulting to call this idiot talented. Pogba is hit you in the face, smack you in the @ss obvious talent and potential. Niang? Useless runner who won't amount to anything and will most likely be back in the French league within the next 2 years

[X-Offender]

The same moron that steered Milan from the pits of Serie A to a proud position on the table? With Bojan's goals and assists right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

And Galliani is not pulling on anybody's legs, Bojan is a decent backup in case SES, Pazzini, and Robinho didn't step up to the occasions. Bojan played his fair share and was assessed accordingly by the backroom staff and management, whom no offense to you X-Off know more than we do about our players. Bojan could very well be shipped back to Barcelona or stay at Milan. But he is not going to start ahead of Niang, that is by now engraved in stone.

And who coached us to the relegation zone in those first 9-10 weeks to begin with? It was Allegri alright. Look, we have the second strongest team in the Serie A (although some people might disagree with that, for me it's undisputed), and it's only natural that we're fighting for the 2nd spot. There's nothing extraordinary happening here. It might seem extraordinary considering our start to the season, but on paper this is where we belong. Allegri could have been up for praise if we were challenging Juventus for the scudetto, but we're not. The guy's simply doing what was asked of at the beginning of the season, and to be honest, he's screwed up tactics, line-ups, formations, substitutions etc. more than once. Just because we've been on a good streak for a while doesn't mean Allegri is doing wonders and cannot be criticized for some of his decisions. Playing Niang and Muntari over Bojan and Nocerino is one of them.

[kurtsimonw]

Ah, there it is.

Before it was we have the 3rd best team because we were way behind. Then when we sat in 4th and edging to 3rd and lose to Roma, X-Off points out Allegri deserves credit if we get a CL spot obviously thinking we'd collapse with the hard fixtures coming up. We get through it easily and 3rd seems certain. Now suddenly we've always had the 2nd best team and it's expected. Basically, unless he wins the title now he deserves no credit. But had we been in the mix to begin with, we'd be hearing how we should be competing anyway.

[William405]

It's simple, we had a bad start because we lost a lot of players. We all knew it was going to take a while to get the team to play decently. If we look at our team on paper, sure we can obtain 2nd place..easily.But!You can't assemble a team and expect it to win without obtaining some sort of chemistry or whatever. So, Allegri is actually doing quite fine. Yes, he still has his glaring mistakes and fixations on bad players but as long as he's doing well I can't complain.

[X-Offender]

Did I ever say we have the 3rd best team? I always maintained we had a stronger side than both Napoli and Inter, even comparing our players to those of Napoli head to head in one of our conversations. And yes, I think I remember saying Allegri deserves some credit if we make the CL a few months ago, but that's different to what I was talking about earlier. Most of you seem to suggest that Allegri is immune to criticism despite his enormous shortfalls, because we've been on a winning streak for a while now, and a coach that wins cannot be criticized. Therefore him playing Niang over Bojan or Muntari over Nocerino is the right decision, because, well, he's winning! How's that fair? Am I not entitled to review the decisions of the person who manages my favorite team? Can I not point out all his flaws in tactics, player selection, formation and so on? Am I happy winning games through horrible performances, when we are capable of so much better? Winning 2-0 against Genoa because the ref doesn't give at least 2 clear penalties to them, or 2-1 against Udinese because the ref grants us a non-existent penalty is not my style, err, our style. Being mocked by Barcelona after beating them 2-0 at home is something that hurts you for years. Watching guys like Acerbi, Traoré, Muntari, Niang etc. taint this shirt when many better alternaties sit on the bench is inexcusable. That's the stuff I can't stand from this guy. Just because we're closing on that 2nd spot doesn't mean I accept most of his decisions, simple as that.

[acid911]

Yes, he still has his glaring mistakes and fixations on bad players but as long as he's doing well I can't complain.

Finishing 2nd and going out in the quarters of the CL is not doing well, me reckon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Because unless something drastic happens that's (pretty much) our future for as long as Allegri is our coach. His little glaring mistakes and fixations on bad players is the reason for this, we'll lose enough brownies to end up with silver. Or bronze.

If that's what the bald idiota (Galliani) wants then well, be my guest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I'm glad Mr. B thinks different. Sure there is a very small chance that Allegri grows some new brain cells and then cover up his faults, but I can name ten coaches that are better than him, and five of them we should not have problem getting.

Yeah, I'd have more sympathy for the man if he had to make do without the likes of Ibra and Silva the time he won the league. But the way he squandered it all the next year, and the start this year, nah, his approval rating probably will never reach 50 percent as far as I am concerned. To make it worse, Juventus won both. Or will win now.

Around this time last year Juventus fans were of the view that they'd be lucky to finish 3rd.

[acid911]

Most of you seem to suggest that Allegri is immune to criticism despite his enormous shortfalls, because we've been on a winning streak for a while now, and a coach that wins cannot be criticized. Therefore him playing Niang over Bojan or Muntari over Nocerino is the right decision, because, well, he's winning! How's that fair?

On the mark! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) A coach can technically win 37 of the 38 matches and still finish 2nd in the league. And you know, finishing 2nd does not count. My problem with Allegri is not in not winning (or not playing beautiful), it's mostly got to do with his small stupid decisions that hurt us when it matters the most.

[Rossoneri7]

And who coached us to the relegation zone in those first 9-10 weeks to begin with? It was Allegri alright. Look, we have the second strongest team in the Serie A (although some people might disagree with that, for me it's undisputed), and it's only natural that we're fighting for the 2nd spot. There's nothing extraordinary happening here. It might seem extraordinary considering our start to the season, but on paper this is where we belong. Allegri could have been up for praise if we were challenging Juventus for the scudetto, but we're not. The guy's simply doing what was asked of at the beginning of the season, and to be honest, he's screwed up tactics, line-ups, formations, substitutions etc. more than once. Just because we've been on a good streak for a while doesn't mean Allegri is doing wonders and cannot be criticized for some of his decisions. Playing Niang and Muntari over Bojan and Nocerino is one of them.

Seems to me like you were asleep during the first three months of the season. You seem to forget what it was like for the players in particular in getting it together. The coach was about to be fired if i recall correctly, and the president had to make visits to milanello to ensure all is going well.

You disagree with the coach based on your preference with who to start, while the coach assesses and plays the better player. In the end, had Bojan had an input into our game, then sure he would have found a place in the team. Choose your assumption freely, I'm tired of going back and forth over a subject which is clearly closed ended, as we all see who is starting.