[Jack Bauer]

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[han2503]

Milan channel have already reported that Suso could come during January

We usually do some good business in the winter (mostly because we're in deep sh!t by that point in the season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

[Jack Bauer]

Hopefully we'll be able to offload some players too like Zaccardo and Essien and loan Niang and Albertazzi.

[han2503]

Hopefully we'll be able to offload some players too like Zaccardo and Essien and loan Niang and Albertazzi.

I really wanted Niang to go on loan, he really needs it. I saw that he's improved in the pre-season games, his finishing is still woeful and he won't get the time to refine that with us. He needs to be playing regularly as a CF not a winger.

Albertazzi maybe we can sell him off when he sees that he won't be getting any minutes (he's already refused a loan move this summer) but I can't see us offloading either Essien or Zaccardo, Zaccardo it looks like we'll be stuck with until his contract ends, and with Essien there's probably no other team willing to pay him what we are. He had offers from Turkey this summer but didn't want to go there.

[Danny]

I really wanted Niang to go on loan, he really needs it. I saw that he's improved in the pre-season games, his finishing is still woeful and he won't get the time to refine that with us. He needs to be playing regularly as a CF not a winger.

Have to respect your 180 on this. A year or two ago you had him as worse than cancer, but you've opened your eyes a little to his potential.

I do agree he needs a lot of fine tuning, but there is talent there, and his attitude has matured considerably.

[han2503]

Have to respect your 180 on this. A year or two ago you had him as worse than cancer, but you've opened your eyes a little to his potential.

I do agree he needs a lot of fine tuning, but there is talent there, and his attitude has matured considerably.

Yeah, couldn't stand him, his attitude, thinking he's better than he is, trying to emulate Balo. It was just totally off-putting.

But I liked what I saw in pre-season, although there's still so much to work on, his aiming and what I call pushing the power button until it's red every time he shoots/crosses/passes

[Fillipo Simone]

Nah, Niang is a lost case. Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I'm not gonna shift my opinion on that one.

[han2503]

Nah, Niang is a lost case. Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I'm not gonna shift my opinion on that one.

I'm personally on the fence about him now. I'm not on the total negative side like I was before pre-season, and I'm not someone who thinks he'll be some amazing player.

I really wanted to see him go out on loan to a Serie A side, see how he does there. Plus he needs to always be played as a CF not a winger, it's ridiculous that he's used that way when he's obviously got the characteristics and the physique of a pure CF. Once again, Allegri and his incredible player positioning at work right there

[KillerMax]

So... Jesus Fernandez Saez, Suso (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Can anyone tell us who exactly is this guy? Has anyone seen him play? How good/ well rated is he? Apparently as han also mentioned before we are interested in him and he could come either for a small amount this winter or on a free for the next as his contract is expiring. Is he worth the trouble?

[X-Offender]

Yeah, apparently Galliani is on the move for him. Don't know much about the guy, honestly. He's a left-footed right winger, so he would fit nicely into Pippo's schemes.

[X-Offender]

Hear hear:

Zaccardo asked and obtained from Milan the salaries for July and August. Zaccardo asked and obtained from Parma the salaries for July and August. Thus, he would have received four salaries for two months (!). The deal (for the swap with Biabiany) fell through when Zaccardo also asked €500,000 as severance package from Milan

Link

The source is very reliable.

Wow, what a greedy, pathetic mofo! Makes me detest him even more.

EDIT 1: But in a way, it worked for the best, as I prefer Bonaventura much more than Biabiany.

EDIT 2: Also, for those who didn't know, Galliani snatched Bonaventura in the last five hours as he was about to sign for Inter. He was in Milan for signing the contract, and when he was told of our offer, he changed mind immediately and signed for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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This post has been edited by X-Offender: Sep 4 2014, 04:13 PM

[kurtsimonw]

I was under the impression they couldn't afford him until Guarin left. Which he didn't, so they couldn't.

[X-Offender]

I was under the impression they couldn't afford him until Guarin left. Which he didn't, so they couldn't.

Haven't read that side of the story.

[Forza Milan!]

Haven't read that side of the story.

I have read something similar (the Inter deal was falling apart so Atalanta went to Milan). Do not remember the source (sorry).

[X-Offender]

Apparently that's what Inter's SD Ausilio said ("We had blocked Bonaventura for some time, but when we couldn't sell Guarin we called Atalanta and told them they could offer the player to other buyers"). So much for Galliani's theatrics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Why should I believe an Interista on this matter?

[X-Offender]

Why should I believe an Interista on this matter?

Because Galliani is a blatant liar.

[kurtsimonw]

Why should I believe an Interista on this matter?

Inter had mentioned not being able to sign him until Guarin left before we even got involved. So it's not like it's something they made up after the fact.

[han2503]

So according to these, we increased Muntari's wage. So we have to suffer an additional year of him on a bigger wage now.

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This management will never learn!!

[Fillipo Simone]

I seriously doubt this is accurate. Zaccardo also got an increase.

Btw. did we sing new contracts with de Jong and Abate? Or will we see them leaving for free coming this summer?

[han2503]

I seriously doubt this is accurate. Zaccardo also got an increase.

Btw. did we sing new contracts with de Jong and Abate? Or will we see them leaving for free coming this summer?

Well Gazzatta are usually pretty accurate with their numbers...

No so far nothing about their contracts, hopefully they'll renew during the season, it would be stupid to let either one of them go for free as they're 2 of the very few players on our squad that are actually worth any money on the market

[X-Offender]

It's gotta be a mistake about Muntari. It has to.

[Jack Bauer]

We are also partially paying wages of some of the players we loaned so the total number is actully more than that.

[Jack Bauer]

It's gotta be a mistake about Muntari. It has to.

Even his mother couldn't believe it.

[Jack Bauer]

Suso to Milan ‘agreed’

[Danny]

Rumours linking Khedira. Near end of his deal and we think we'll get him for a knock down price in January. Discussions mooted to take place when we play them in the upcoming friendly.

[X-Offender]

I think he'll go to Arsenal.

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah if Khedira's available on the cheap, he'll have a tonne of options. Would be great if we could though.

[Fillipo Simone]

I never liked him in the first place, especially if this means we'll be losing de Jong.

[acid911]

I never liked him in the first place, especially if this means we'll be losing de Jong.

Yeah, never liked him much either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) He's just good enough, not particularly adept at one particular task like some of the other big names in his position. Would rather see him go to Manchester United seeing as they desperately need a defensive mid. As an added plus point, that should keep them off of de Jong.

[KillerMax]

Yeah, never liked him much either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) He's just good enough, not particularly adept at one particular task like some of the other big names in his position. Would rather see him go to Manchester United seeing as they desperately need a defensive mid. As an added plus point, that should keep them off of de Jong.

Smart!

[Danny]

Arsenal trying to sign Abate but he looks like he'll sign an extension with us.

One we do NOT want to lose.

[X-Offender]

Apparently we're interested in Uchida, whose contract -surprise, surprise- expires in June.

[kurtsimonw]

Sell Abate, bring in Uchida on a free. Sounds about right.

[Fillipo Simone]

Maybe he would come as a backup. Who knows; Milan probably want to make Honda feel better on the right. Uchida surely isn't first team material.

[X-Offender]

Galliani: "Suso's contract is about to expire, we'll see if he wants to change shirt or stay where he is. Khedira would be a good addition but he earns a lot"

Source: Mediaset

[Danny]

Khedira will go to either Arsenal or Chelsea.

[Fillipo Simone]

I honestly don't think we need someone like Khedira. We need a distributor, someone with vision and a good pass more. If this cannot be found, then at least a classic organizer.

[han2503]

I honestly don't think we need someone like Khedira. We need a distributor, someone with vision and a good pass more. If this cannot be found, then at least a classic organizer.

Agreed

Khedira would only be a good addition if we were going to sell De Jong.

Btw, is there still no word of his and Abate's contracts? It's ridiculous that we're approaching the end of October and this issue still hasn't been dealt with. 2 of our best players could leave on a free yet they don't seem so concerned about it...

[Danny]

We need someone when De Jong isn't available. All we have is Essien.

[han2503]

We need someone when De Jong isn't available. All we have is Essien.

You can't bring in Khedira as cover for De Jong!

If Khedira comes he'd be a starter, it's either him or De Jong imo as we can't afford both contracts, not to mention Muntari can play the anchor role as well, imo it's the only position he should be allowed to play

[Danny]

You can't bring in Khedira as cover for De Jong!

He's cover now.

If Khedira comes he'd be a starter, it's either him or De Jong imo as we can't afford both contracts, not to mention Muntari can play the anchor role as well, imo it's the only position he should be allowed to play

Khedira isn't first choice for club or country.

But it's moot, he's going to Chelsea or Arsenal.

[X-Offender]

Khedira is an excellent midfielder. He'd be first choice anywhere.

[han2503]

He's cover now.



Khedira isn't first choice for club or country.

But it's moot, he's going to Chelsea or Arsenal.

He's cover at Real and the German NT

When Milan have the same kind of abundance in riches as those 2 teams he can come in as cover.

The fact is we cannot afford to keep both him and De Jong

And anyway I think the point is moot because as you so rightfully said, he'll be going to an English side as we can't afford him

[Danny]

Khedira is an excellent midfielder. He'd be first choice anywhere.

Except at Real and for his country (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[X-Offender]

Except at Real and for his country (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I should have said anywhere else. And for his country? He's always been first choice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Danny]

I stand corrected on his country.

[Danny]

City wish to sign Honda in January for 18M Euros.

They can go f*ck themselves.

[Fillipo Simone]

That's a decent amount of money. I'd really consider the offer, but I doubt it's true.

[X-Offender]

I'd consider it only if we signed someone like Shaqiri.

[han2503]

I'd consider it only if we signed someone like Shaqiri.

18m is nothing to this management as you wouldn't be taking it in the context of a transfer budget put plugging up losses.

So no thanks to the 18m

[Danny]

We agree on something else! Yay! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[X-Offender]

Better keep a list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

F@Ck off. It's not about 18 million, Honda is an asset making us money in Far East Asia. We've had at least 2 Japanese companies sign up as sponsors for us post his arrival and this is without his shirt sales. Heard unverified rumours that he's paid for his wages this season with shirt sales. Giving him the #10 might have been a marketing masterstroke. I know I'm getting his shirt.

[han2503]

We agree on something else! Yay! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Better keep a list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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F@Ck off. It's not about 18 million, Honda is an asset making us money in Far East Asia. We've had at least 2 Japanese companies sign up as sponsors for us post his arrival and this is without his shirt sales. Heard unverified rumours that he's paid for his wages this season with shirt sales. Giving him the #10 might have been a marketing masterstroke. I know I'm getting his shirt.

Agreed totally, he's a major asset to us marketing wise, even more so now that he's killing it atm on the pitch, easily one of our top players this season. Honda is worth at least double that because of all the positive elements he brings when looking at the entire picture and not just football

[Danny]

In terms of market value, he's giving us at least 60 million new fans given his icon status back in Japan. Add the other Asian markets and, seriously, we've got the biggest Asian footballer around. That's a billion+ audience. That's priceless.

In terms of monetary value, to us he's worth easily £100M. And I'm not being silly. In terms of ability of course he's not the world's best, but on a financial level, he's easily our most valuable asset now. By a long long way.

[Fillipo Simone]

Hmh interesting numbers. Puts up a very important marketing perspective.

[Forza Milan!]

Anyone know what's the latest with Abate? Sounds like Liverpool is after him now, would hate to lose him ...

[Jack Bauer]

http://www.football-italia.net/57619/abate-milan-life

I think it's just a matter of time. I'm more worried about De Jong's extension.

[han2503]

Anyone know what's the latest with Abate? Sounds like Liverpool is after him now, would hate to lose him ...

Nothing as of yet. I really cannot understand why the management are dragging this out, neither him or De Jong want ludicrous amounts of money, Abate only wants something like 2m per season which is only a minor increase from what he's currently getting and De Jong said he wants to stay as well.

Just ridiculous that they would allow their contracts to run down. These are important 1st team players who have so far this season been 2 of our best performers. Just inconceivable, especially when you take into consideration that they rushed to renew Muntari's contract this summer and gave him a pay hike.

Sometimes that senile tag really fits with Galliani, the man has completely lost it and the more time he stays the further he'll drag this club down. Too bad Silvio is equally as old and senile as he is to recognise the damage Galliani is doing to his club

http://www.football-italia.net/57619/abate-milan-life

I think it's just a matter of time. I'm more worried about De Jong's extension.

Players can say that all they want, but if their club is reluctant to give them a new contract they have no choice but to go elsewhere.

The fact that we're not in seemingly any rush to renew their deals mostly shows that we don't view them as important as they truly are to this team. A club who values a player rushes to renew their contract to confirm their position with the club, look at Juve Pogba still has 2 more years and they still renewed his deal now ASAP because not only is he a top player that costs a lot of money, but he's also an invaluable cog in their midfield

[Rossoneri7]

http://www.football-italia.net/57619/abate-milan-life

I think it's just a matter of time. I'm more worried about De Jong's extension.

Not a nice thing to know, when a player says I'm Milan for life he is bound to be sold within 6 months.

[Danny]

Actually Abate's agent said he himself (Abate) is the one taking his time, not just the club. The offer isn't available just yet but there's apparently 'no rush' and he will be signing such a deal.

[han2503]

Actually Abate's agent said he himself (Abate) is the one taking his time, not just the club. The offer isn't available just yet but there's apparently 'no rush' and he will be signing such a deal.

Abate's agent is Raiola, the definition of shady. No one should be taking his time with this, the club should just put an offer on the table and have both abate and De Jong sign

[acid911]

Abate's agent is Raiola, the definition of shady. No one should be taking his time with this, the club should just put an offer on the table and have both abate and De Jong sign

+∞ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Danny]

Abate's agent is Raiola, the definition of shady. No one should be taking his time with this, the club should just put an offer on the table and have both abate and De Jong sign

I do agree, but the point is it's not all in Milan's court re: blame.

[han2503]

I do agree, but the point is it's not all in Milan's court re: blame.

Abate has repeated multiple times now that he wants to stay/renew his contract. I seriously do not understand why they would let it drag out through to January.

[Danny]

We're linked with Isco or Illara from Real in January on loan.

So there's another couple we can stick on the bench and sub Poli off for on 67 minutes.

[han2503]

We're linked with Isco or Illara from Real in January on loan.

So there's another couple we can stick on the bench and sub Poli off for on 67 minutes.

Funny, but the sad thing is that you're probably right...

Illara I'm not so sure about, I don't know, Real paid a bucket load of money for him but he's never seemed to get a decent run in the side.

Isco would be a dream to have in the side, can't see Carlo letting him go, he's the type of player he really likes

[X-Offender]

Not happening, but even if it happens, what's the point in having a player for five months knowing you'll lose him afterwards?

[Fillipo Simone]

The point is securing CL football.

[Danny]

The point is securing CL football.

A team endowed with Bona and MvG COULD achieve that but for God knows what reason Pippo refuses to start either of them.

And until yesterday refused to start Zapata alongside Alex for 6 matches.

I just feel like we get in some good players but they just fill the bench and it's the same old players Pippo (or whoever) starts.

Which negates the 'he hasn't built his own team' argument - he has, he just isn't using half the players he got. Only Alex and Menez of his signings started. No Lopez, Armero, Agazzi (ok ok, I give you that one) MvG, Bona or Torres.

[Danny]

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/10/ac...xes-in-january/

AC Milan will look to sell defender Philippe Mexes in January, rather than let him leave when his contract expires at the end of the season.

The 32 year old Frenchman is the joint-highest earner at the club, and the Rossoneri are keen to release the defender off the payroll sooner if they can.

SkySportItalia report that Milan’s priority will be to try to find a buyer for the Frenchman, whose €4 million salary is putting a financial burden on the club.

Mexes is yet to make an appearance for Milan this season, falling behind Daniele Bonera, Alex and Adil Rami in the pecking order.

He's finished at Milan.

[X-Offender]

Yep. And in sad fashion.

[Danny]

I can really see Isco, Illa or Khedira wanting to sign up at the San Siro in January now!

[Rossoneri7]

would love for reinforcements such as those and you never know, something could be in the works.

Think teams like Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, City, PSG and the likes have acquired a lot of quality talent but are not getting room because of their marquee players being selected. Enter Galliani, there really could be a deal of the sorts, especially with FFP compliance shifting the equation.

Yet would the aforementioned players prefer EPL/Bundeslig to Serie A, that IMO should be the stumbling block. Otherwise, I wouldn't put it far from Galliani to pull something off.

[X-Offender]

Mediaset says we'll get Suso in January, Pazzini could leave for the MLS, and that we'll return MVG to Chelsea...

[Fillipo Simone]

Interesting. What's happening with van Ginkel?

[Danny]

Interesting. What's happening with van Ginkel?

My guess is Pippo doesn't like him.

Can't be ability because he's excellent - this is undisputed fact. He'd rather play Muntari and MvG would rather leave - he's here for playing time.

[Fillipo Simone]

How many times did you see him actually play?

[X-Offender]

How many times did you see him actually play?

I don't think he has seen him play, but I remember him saying that a few Chelsea supporters had great things to say about MVG.

[Danny]

How many times did you see him actually play?

Same as you. He looked very very good. But my full case is based on dozens of Chelsea fans that I know rating him really highly indeed.

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't know. My rule is to see and then judge. But his snub of Milan earlier during the transfer period may have had it's share. Perhaps the boy is a bit cocky and thinks he's above Milan.

[kurtsimonw]

He's never getting in the Chelsea side. He'll be sold.

[Danny]

I don't know. My rule is to see and then judge. But his snub of Milan earlier during the transfer period may have had it's share. Perhaps the boy is a bit cocky and thinks he's above Milan.

Above Milan? Right now so are Genoa, Sampdoria and Lazio.

[X-Offender]

Van Ginkel's agent:

"The premises at Milan were good. Marco started the season from the bench, and we expected him to start playing once he had adapted to the new league and country. But even after recovering from the injury he hasn't played at all. We're not happy and this goes against any logic.

We've been clear to the club that this was not the agreement we made when Marco decided to come on loan. There was no need to go to Italy if the kid was going to do nothing. I would understand this treatment if Van Ginkel was crap, but someone like him would do more than well in this Milan! Chelsea so far doesn't want to intervene, but they will if the situation persists"

Link

Saint words.

[Danny]

He started tonight, and I considered it a gross insult that he finally starts in a meaningless friendly.

He's a fine player and I think Pippo's treatment of him has been fucking diabolical tbh.

[Fillipo Simone]

Diabolical? Oh come one.

[Danny]

His agent suggests it, it has p*ssed the player and Chelsea off, and it's sure as hell disgusted me.

So yes, diabolical.

[dst]

That's bs, the really good players don't go out on loan, they play on their own team.

[Danny]

That's bs, the really good players don't go out on loan, they play on their own team.

*cough* Falcao *cough*

[kurtsimonw]

He's looked so off at United so far.

[X-Offender]

That's bs, the really good players don't go out on loan, they play on their own team.

You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.

[Danny]

He's looked so off at United so far.

True, ACL's never see the player come back to what they were.

[kurtsimonw]

You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.

Fabregas also plays in the "2", so that's Matic, Ramires and Cesc he's behind.

[Danny]

You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.

Exactly. It's no wonder he and his agent are disgusted with his time so far at Milan. It's not like we have a midfield abundant with world class talent. He, De Jong and Bona would have been, for our level, great.

But it's never bloody happened.

For whatever reason, Pippo fancies neither MvG or Bona.

[dst]

*cough* Falcao *cough*

Different cases, Falcao is an established player. I didn't make this clear but I was talking about prospects (not that it normally happens with established players anyway). I can't remember a team loaning out a youngster that was considered a big thing. Yes, teams have made mistakes. Madrid and Barcelona in particular have in the past sold young players they then had to buy back when they came good but when a youngster is destined to be a big thing teams keep him and actually play him sooner rather than later.

I honestly can't think of any such cases, please name some players that I might be forgetting.

[Danny]

Before I do, bear in mind the Chelsea midfield. Matic, Fabregas, with Mikel in backup. Very VERY hard for a youth player to even get on the bench in that team.

But examples of good young players loaned out to get game time? A certain Ignazio Abate...spent 6 years out on loan before he became our first choice RB.

[dst]

But examples of good young players loaned out to get game time? A certain Ignazio Abate...spent 6 years out on loan before he became our first choice RB.

Exactly! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Wilshere at Bolton, Sturridge at Bolton are 2 that come to mind.

[X-Offender]

Marchisio. On loan to Empoli (2007-2008).