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Nov 15 2015, 02:44 PM
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The names we're linked with already sound depressing to say the least. Let's see what happens
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Feb 2 2016, 08:47 PM
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Surely, it isn't easy. But you forget, Allegri embarrassed himself at Milan over and over again. At one moment he completely lost it and played average or comic players in favor of real talents, he neglected club legends, he played ridiculous formations with one or two players completely out of position.
Ancelotti's late years are a myth. People tend to forget that there was a time Milan simply couldn't have won the Scudetto because of the Calciopoli scandal. But let's forget that for a minute. Ancelotti still had to deal with a WC Inter side, while the rest of Serie A was immensely more competitive.
Was it a much much better side? Think about it. No Shevchenko, no Costa, no Billy. Surely, the midfield was intact, but Ancelotti still missed key ingredients. I don't recall anyone defending him much.
In 2011/12 Allegri squandered the Scudetto with basically the same winning side. Next season sure, he lost key players. But the downfall he produced was of epic proportions.
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Feb 3 2016, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 2 2016, 04:47 PM) Surely, it isn't easy. But you forget, Allegri embarrassed himself at Milan over and over again. At one moment he completely lost it and played average or comic players in favor of real talents, he neglected club legends, he played ridiculous formations with one or two players completely out of position.
Ancelotti's late years are a myth. People tend to forget that there was a time Milan simply couldn't have won the Scudetto because of the Calciopoli scandal. But let's forget that for a minute. Ancelotti still had to deal with a WC Inter side, while the rest of Serie A was immensely more competitive.
Was it a much much better side? Think about it. No Shevchenko, no Costa, no Billy. Surely, the midfield was intact, but Ancelotti still missed key ingredients. I don't recall anyone defending him much.
In 2011/12 Allegri squandered the Scudetto with basically the same winning side. Next season sure, he lost key players. But the downfall he produced was of epic proportions. I don't buy that at all. Carlo's squads were vastly better than Allegri's post Ibra, Thiago, and van Bommel. Not to mention the loss of senators like Gattuso, Pippo, and Seedorf. Seriously, please look at the squad we had that year. It was really truly awful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%93...C._Milan_season. Even with all that he managed to scrape and claw back up to 3rd that season. The difference for Allegri at Juve is that they lost less of the overall quality of the team and they did a far better job of reinforcing with quality. Galliani owns at least half of that collapse with the terrible deals he made and the anemic response to such a huge loss of veterans.
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I mean Nocer... Jan 29 2016, 11:58 AM Fillipo Simone I'd welcome it with both arms. Niang is a terr... Jan 30 2016, 05:13 PM William405 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 30 2016, 07:1... Jan 30 2016, 05:57 PM Suhail 3 Milan are in talks to sell Antonio Nocerino and Ni... Jan 30 2016, 08:54 PM Fillipo Simone I don't see a point in keeping a striker who h... Jan 31 2016, 02:05 AM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 31 2016, 02:0... Jan 31 2016, 09:40 AM maldini03 I wouldn't sell Niang for that amount 16M in t... Jan 31 2016, 05:12 PM X-Offender For 16M I would sell Niang on the spot. Too bad we... Jan 31 2016, 06:53 PM han2503 De Jong has officially terminated his contract and... Feb 1 2016, 04:35 PM William405 QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 1 2016, 06:35 PM) De... Feb 1 2016, 05:46 PM Fillipo Simone Strange. They way he just, well, disappeared. Feb 1 2016, 06:07 PM Forza Milan! Probably the wrong place to post this, but Allegri... Feb 2 2016, 12:02 PM han2503 QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Feb 2 2016, 12... Feb 2 2016, 04:21 PM milanbuf88 QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 2 2016, 12:21 PM) I ... Feb 2 2016, 07:15 PM Fillipo Simone As usual, it's a combination. I've been cr... Feb 2 2016, 12:27 PM Fillipo Simone I think a good coach would have done considerably ... Feb 2 2016, 07:52 PM William405 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 2 2016, 09:52... Feb 2 2016, 08:34 PM X-Offender Ancelotti's problem was different. He didn... Feb 2 2016, 10:30 PM Fillipo Simone Were they? I still think it's the unwillingnes... Feb 2 2016, 10:57 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 2 2016, 10:57... Feb 3 2016, 09:37 PM Forza Milan! IMHO it comes down to the following:
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