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> Serie A - Week 15 - AC Milan - Brescia Calcio, Date: 11/04/10 Time: 20:45 CET

 
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post Dec 1 2010, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 1 2010, 04:36 AM) *
I'm hoping to see ronaldinho play at least 30 minutes in this one but it won't happen. Resting seedorf or Ibra isn't something that allegri will even consider sadly.

Seedorf was completely out of it against Samp, he can't continue to play so much
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post Dec 1 2010, 03:06 PM
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But now that he's had a week of rest, it should be fine. Also, it looks like next week won't be played because of the strike, so...
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post Dec 1 2010, 04:02 PM
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Pirlo should be tried out in the AM position,so seedorf shouldn't be close to the starting lineup,nuff Said ;p

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post Dec 1 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 1 2010, 04:02 PM) *
Pirlo should be tried out in the AM position,so seedorf shouldn't be close to the starting lineup,nuff Said ;p


True, Pirlo should be given a chance, but I'm pretty sure he'll fail cause the guy has zero acceleration, which for an AM is essential.
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post Dec 1 2010, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 1 2010, 11:02 PM) *
Pirlo should be tried out in the AM position,so seedorf shouldn't be close to the starting lineup,nuff Said ;p


the national squad tried that.. didn't do wonders..
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post Dec 1 2010, 04:44 PM
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X-offender:The same thing can be said about Seedorf,right ;p
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QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 1 2010, 04:44 PM) *
X-offender:The same thing can be said about Seedorf,right ;p


Seedorf has an excellent acceleration for his age. But of course, we need someone better in that department. Seedorf can't be our long-term solution.
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post Dec 1 2010, 05:13 PM
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Ronnie in for Seedorf this week BEFORE the 90' would be excellent.
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post Dec 1 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Dec 1 2010, 05:13 PM) *
Ronnie in for Seedorf this week BEFORE the 90' would be excellent.


Unless we're already winning 5-0. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 1 2010, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 1 2010, 06:09 PM) *
Seedorf has an excellent acceleration for his age. But of course, we need someone better in that department. Seedorf can't be our long-term solution.


Ok,I'm talking currently.I don't doubt Seedorf's speed when he was young.If now he would have the same speed,he'd still gas after two runs or so.Pirlo is better than Seedorf although I doubt he's by miles slower than him so why not try him out.Our best solution for the Am without buying someone is using Merkel or any youngster who is pacy and has a decent set of skills.
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post Dec 1 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 1 2010, 03:06 PM) *
But now that he's had a week of rest, it should be fine. Also, it looks like next week won't be played because of the strike, so...

Is that seriously going to go down??

As for Seedorf, his performances have been going down hill with every match he's played, he's just not cut out for playing the full 90 every week, and to topthat off he's made to play every 3 days. We'll see how he does this week, Brescia should be easier then Samp, but if he's not cutting it he has no business staying on the pitch

Also when you talk about acceleration, what kind are you talking about, Seedorf never even had that in his hey days, he's always been a slow player, and he certainly doesn't have that now when he can barely run for longer then 60 minutes at a given time.
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QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 1 2010, 06:02 PM) *
Our best solution for the Am without buying someone is using Merkel or any youngster who is pacy and has a decent set of skills.


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 1 2010, 06:32 PM) *
Is that seriously going to go down??


It looks like it.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 1 2010, 06:32 PM) *
As for Seedorf, his performances have been going down hill with every match he's played, he's just not cut out for playing the full 90 every week, and to topthat off he's made to play every 3 days. We'll see how he does this week, Brescia should be easier then Samp, but if he's not cutting it he has no business staying on the pitch.


If he was playing every week, it'd be alright. But I agree, every 3 days puts a lot of strain on him.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 1 2010, 06:32 PM) *
Also when you talk about acceleration, what kind are you talking about, Seedorf never even had that in his hey days, he's always been a slow player, and he certainly doesn't have that now when he can barely run for longer then 60 minutes at a given time.


Acceleration han, of course he has it. For example, consider the chance he had against Sampdoria where Ambro put him in front of the goalie. He was able to slip through Samp's defense and get into shooting position. You think Pirlo could have made such a movement? I highly doubt so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRFnY0j3feM - 1:53
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 1 2010, 08:38 PM) *
Acceleration han, of course he has it. For example, consider the chance he had against Sampdoria where Ambro put him in front of the goalie. He was able to slip through Samp's defense and get into shooting position. You think Pirlo could have made such a movement? I highly doubt so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRFnY0j3feM - 1:53

Imo that has more to do with how Seedorf reads the game as opposed to Pirlo, It's not like he was showing impressive acceleration there, he just got in behind his marker due to his intelligent play, not through sheer speed.

Imo neither Seedorf nor Pirlo are fast players that can accelerate, ala Kaka, or Pato for example, never could and never will be able to.
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lol...in that Seedorf highlight it appears more that the defender is slowing down, than Seedorf speeding up.
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X you might be alone in arguing in favor of Seedorf having anything related to speed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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