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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 14 2024, 06:58 PM) *
Pioli once again f@cking up the rotation, while making Pulisic play again


Nah, line-up was fine. We cannot afford to rotate in these EL games, regardless if it's Slavia or anyone else. It's the only silverware we can win this year. CL spot in Italy is 99% secured, especially now that Italy most probably will have 5 spots for next year.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2024, 11:45 AM) *
Nah, line-up was fine. We cannot afford to rotate in these EL games, regardless if it's Slavia or anyone else. It's the only silverware we can win this year. CL spot in Italy is 99% secured, especially now that Italy most probably will have 5 spots for next year.

He rotated the midfield. And had that red card not happened we'd have probably lost that tie the way we were playing

I'm sorry, but Adli cannot be a starter against teams who press us. He's such a huge liability.

Musah and RLC as well were all over the place. We practically play without a midfield. Bennacer at least gives us structure.

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2024, 02:52 PM) *
He rotated the midfield. And had that red card not happened we'd have probably lost that tie the way we were playing

I'm sorry, but Adli cannot be a starter against teams who press us. He's such a huge liability.

Musah and RLC as well were all over the place. We practically play without a midfield. Bennacer at least gives us structure.


I'm afraid for Pioli nowadays there are no starters in midfield (aside from Loftus). Adli, Bennacer and Reijnders all could play, depends on his choices. Musah less so, although I thought he was pretty decent last night. Definitely not all over the place.

Personally I'd always play Bennacer and Reijnders. They are by far the best in those roles. But even when he does Pioli for some f*cked up reason will play Bennacer more advanced than Reijnders -___-
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Also, just wanted to say that I really love Pulisic. He might not be world class, but he fights like a lion and has the mentality of a winner. He only cares about football, unlike someone else I know *cough*Leao*cough* who's too busy with his music career and other off-the-pitch BS.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2024, 10:37 PM) *
I'm afraid for Pioli nowadays there are no starters in midfield (aside from Loftus). Adli, Bennacer and Reijnders all could play, depends on his choices. Musah less so, although I thought he was pretty decent last night. Definitely not all over the place.

Personally I'd always play Bennacer and Reijnders. They are by far the best in those roles. But even when he does Pioli for some f*cked up reason will play Bennacer more advanced than Reijnders -___-

Agreed re Bennacer and Reijnders. I don't understand what Pioli sees. RLC is good at carrying and putting himself about but his decision making is atrocious.

Musah I like him a lot, but we need to figure out how best to use him. When he plays in midfield he ends up too wide and he leaves a lot of wide open spaces. I don't understand why he's considered a DM. e's not disciplined in his positioning. Same with RLC, he's great at carrying the ball but he needs to improve on his positioning/decision making.

Our biggest problem this season has been that we cannot control the game through our midfield and our midfield doesn't cover the defense either when we don't have the ball. That is why we're conceding almost as much as a relegation side. For me this is all down to the coaching. Especially now with Benna back there are no excuses. I said in the summer, we're going to spend all this money and neglect the most crucial role in the squad, all because Pioli wanted to give the keys to Krunic. We conceded the season before it even started because of that.

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Also, just wanted to say that I really love Pulisic. He might not be world class, but he fights like a lion and has the mentality of a winner. He only cares about football, unlike someone else I know *cough*Leao*cough* who's too busy with his music career and other off-the-pitch BS.

I love Puli as well, but for me, Rafa is a top top player. And I disagree that he lets the off-field stuff distract. We play a system where he's constantly put in positions where he's double or triple teamed. Someone on twitter posted a vid of Arteta explaining how best to use the wide players by making the extra pass so they can get free. We never do this. We constantly feed the ball to our wingers when they still have 2 players ahead of them.

If we can get the right coach to free up both Leao and Pulisic/Chuk, we'll cook next season. We need someone like an Arteta/Spaletti/Sarri. Someone who knows how to get the team playing in a way that makes the best use of our wings by utilising the midfield properly in the build-up.
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Please don't mention Chucueze ever again. That useless dud needs to be sold off ASAP this summer. One of the worst signings of the last 10 years.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2024, 09:40 PM) *
Please don't mention Chucueze ever again. That useless dud needs to be sold off ASAP this summer. One of the worst signings of the last 10 years.

We've never seen him get a run of 2 games though. All stop start, comes on when we're not actively attacking anymore in mist games.

I'd like to see him given a chance under a different coach
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What a goal Theo.

Man, if we have to sell anyone from the "big 3" this summer, it better not be him!

Maignan would be my pick
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We wouldn't have to sell any of the big 3 though, that's the thing. Because we don't have to. We don't need money. We have zero debts, and we even ended last year with a positive net result. Our financial situation is excellent.

It's time we started thinking big. And by big I mean keep all of our good players and strengthen the squad in the weak areas.

We need AT ALL COST a quality RB and a quality CF. Then of course adjust things here and there, like get rid of Chukweuze and maybe sign a better winger, sign a bench CF (Jovic is not good enough, Giroud will leave), replace Kjaer etc. But our core is strong.

Maignan, Tomori, Thiaw, Theo, Reijnders, Bennacer, Musah, Loftus, Leao, Pulisic, Okafor. These are all young and quality players that should be kept as the foundation of the new Milan. I'd even throw in guys like Gabbia and Adli for good measure.

Of course for this to finally take off the first and most important step would be to get rid of Pioli and sign a top coach.
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Pioli said something yesterday after the match which is very true. We have 14 points of gap with Inter. This whole difference was generated in late October / early November, when we played 4 consecutive games and made only 2 points: Juventus (L), Napoli (D), Udinese (L) and Lecce (D). Inter instead made 4/4, thus 12 points. That's your 10 points of difference, which adding the derby loss gives you 13 points out of the 14.

Because other than that we have made a very good run, it must be said. I don't like the sort of football we play, I don't like the attitude of our players most of the time, we're not consistent and our defensive game is a mess. But still we've collected 65 points which if I'm not mistaken is on par or even better than our scudetto season.

It really sucks because we conceded the scudetto win to Inter very easily. We could have put a very good challenge, there were no other opponents. But we fumbled like a bunch of losers and that's why Pioli needs to go.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 22 2024, 02:46 PM) *
We wouldn't have to sell any of the big 3 though, that's the thing. Because we don't have to. We don't need money. We have zero debts, and we even ended last year with a positive net result. Our financial situation is excellent.

It's time we started thinking big. And by big I mean keep all of our good players and strengthen the squad in the weak areas.

We need AT ALL COST a quality RB and a quality CF. Then of course adjust things here and there, like get rid of Chukweuze and maybe sign a better winger, sign a bench CF (Jovic is not good enough, Giroud will leave), replace Kjaer etc. But our core is strong.

Maignan, Tomori, Thiaw, Theo, Reijnders, Bennacer, Musah, Loftus, Leao, Pulisic, Okafor. These are all young and quality players that should be kept as the foundation of the new Milan. I'd even throw in guys like Gabbia and Adli for good measure.

Of course for this to finally take off the first and most important step would be to get rid of Pioli and sign a top coach.

The issue with Maignan for example is that we have to renew his deal this summer or he should be sold. He wants big wages and he's had issues with his performances this season, not to mention he's had one big injury each season he's been with us.

We cannot give him more than Leao/Theo imo. A GK can be replaced and is not worth f@cking up the entire salary structure over.

We might be in a healthy situation now, but things could easily slide if we are not vigilant. I'd personally sell Mike this summer if he does not renew by August.

We can think big while also being realistic, a relegated side in the PL will make more this season than Inter who will win the Serie A.

Tonali last summer was a smart decision, we can do the same with another player this summer. Otherwise we're not going to spend like we did last summer

I agree, the core is good, and we must renew Theo's deal at all costs, but we need to sign a top CF and a top DM next summer imo, and those are 2 of the most expensive positions to fill in football.

I think a DM is far more important than a RB, but that's just me. We lost points in games like the ones against Napoli and conceded so many goals this season because we do not have a proper DM who can control the play. Bennacer has not been the same since coming back, we have to be honest with ourselves on that one, plus he's very injury prone and not dependable.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 31 2024, 04:50 PM) *
Pioli said something yesterday after the match which is very true. We have 14 points of gap with Inter. This whole difference was generated in late October / early November, when we played 4 consecutive games and made only 2 points: Juventus (L), Napoli (D), Udinese (L) and Lecce (D). Inter instead made 4/4, thus 12 points. That's your 10 points of difference, which adding the derby loss gives you 13 points out of the 14.

Because other than that we have made a very good run, it must be said. I don't like the sort of football we play, I don't like the attitude of our players most of the time, we're not consistent and our defensive game is a mess. But still we've collected 65 points which if I'm not mistaken is on par or even better than our scudetto season.

It really sucks because we conceded the scudetto win to Inter very easily. We could have put a very good challenge, there were no other opponents. But we fumbled like a bunch of losers and that's why Pioli needs to go.

You know I have been a huge proponent to the PioliOut brigade, but I must confess that I've been re-thinking my position on that. The managerial marry-go-round this summer is going to be ridiculous, with many top teams potentially looking to change managers (Liverpool, United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern, Juve). I don't think we can be competitive in that market. Pioli has made me insanely angry for a while now, but he seems to have held the team together and kept the players behind him even through the real worst of times.

We're improving in our play and our form has been impeccable since the turn of the year, the only blemish being that Monza game where Jovic f@cked us over.

I think if the management give him a top CF and a DM, we'll be very competitive with him as our coach next season

Inter have been unreal this year, I think the season they're having is a one off. Yes, we f@cked up games we shouldn't have, and once again we were in an injury crises of our own making which contributed to said f@ck ups.

But, we made a lot of changes this summer an Pioli took it in stride and matched his best season with us so far, which ended with a title.

Pioli will still be under contract next season, I think we should let him have another season, with the right upgrades, I think he can deliver again.

And I never thought I'd say this after January 2023
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 31 2024, 06:22 PM) *
The issue with Maignan for example is that we have to renew his deal this summer or he should be sold. He wants big wages and he's had issues with his performances this season, not to mention he's had one big injury each season he's been with us.

We cannot give him more than Leao/Theo imo. A GK can be replaced and is not worth f@cking up the entire salary structure over.

We might be in a healthy situation now, but things could easily slide if we are not vigilant. I'd personally sell Mike this summer if he does not renew by August.

We can think big while also being realistic, a relegated side in the PL will make more this season than Inter who will win the Serie A.

Tonali last summer was a smart decision, we can do the same with another player this summer. Otherwise we're not going to spend like we did last summer

I agree, the core is good, and we must renew Theo's deal at all costs, but we need to sign a top CF and a top DM next summer imo, and those are 2 of the most expensive positions to fill in football.

I think a DM is far more important than a RB, but that's just me. We lost points in games like the ones against Napoli and conceded so many goals this season because we do not have a proper DM who can control the play. Bennacer has not been the same since coming back, we have to be honest with ourselves on that one, plus he's very injury prone and not dependable.


Again, you're not considering the fact they we don't need to sell.

Forget the rumours about Maignan wanting insane wages. It was confirmed that was all BS. His demands are around 6M, we can easily reach an agreement at 5.5M like with Leao. And yes, he hasn't been superb this season, but he's still one of the best GK's in the world and last night's game confirmed it.

This new ownership keeps talking about wanting to win, about wanting to bring back the CL. Well, to do that first and foremost you keep your best players.

And I disagree about the DM situation. Sure I wouldn't say no to a quality DM, but on the right we are in catastrophic conditions and that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Bennacer is coming from a serious injury, I can accept him not being in top form. But his qualities are unquestionable and as a metronome+ball winner he's one of the best in the league.

PS: I wouldn't be surprised if we sold Tonali because we knew of his gambling problems and that we would lose him for a full year.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 31 2024, 06:22 PM) *
You know I have been a huge proponent to the PioliOut brigade, but I must confess that I've been re-thinking my position on that. The managerial marry-go-round this summer is going to be ridiculous, with many top teams potentially looking to change managers (Liverpool, United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern, Juve). I don't think we can be competitive in that market. Pioli has made me insanely angry for a while now, but he seems to have held the team together and kept the players behind him even through the real worst of times.

We're improving in our play and our form has been impeccable since the turn of the year, the only blemish being that Monza game where Jovic f@cked us over.

I think if the management give him a top CF and a DM, we'll be very competitive with him as our coach next season

Inter have been unreal this year, I think the season they're having is a one off. Yes, we f@cked up games we shouldn't have, and once again we were in an injury crises of our own making which contributed to said f@ck ups.

But, we made a lot of changes this summer an Pioli took it in stride and matched his best season with us so far, which ended with a title.

Pioli will still be under contract next season, I think we should let him have another season, with the right upgrades, I think he can deliver again.

And I never thought I'd say this after January 2023


Nah man, you're letting the results get to your head. As I said this team is full of problems. And Pioli has ended his cycle. Guys like Conte or Thago Motta would bring so much more to the table. It's time to part ways.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 31 2024, 08:27 PM) *
Again, you're not considering the fact they we don't need to sell.

Forget the rumours about Maignan wanting insane wages. It was confirmed that was all BS. His demands are around 6M, we can easily reach an agreement at 5.5M like with Leao. And yes, he hasn't been superb this season, but he's still one of the best GK's in the world and last night's game confirmed it.

This new ownership keeps talking about wanting to win, about wanting to bring back the CL. Well, to do that first and foremost you keep your best players.

And I disagree about the DM situation. Sure I wouldn't say no to a quality DM, but on the right we are in catastrophic conditions and that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Bennacer is coming from a serious injury, I can accept him not being in top form. But his qualities are unquestionable and as a metronome+ball winner he's one of the best in the league.

PS: I wouldn't be surprised if we sold Tonali because we knew of his gambling problems and that we would lose him for a full year.

I just don't see us spending big money unless 1 player is sold. Sure the finances look good, that's because the club has been run very shrewdly by Elliot and even more so now by RedBird.

The DM is one of the main reasons our defensive stats have been closer to bottom table numbers than top. We just don't have any control in midfield.

Bennacer was best as well when he had a more defensive player next to him in Kessie. He's not someone that can hold down the fort by himself imo.

I don't know where you saw the Mike wage demands rumour debunked. But as I said, if he's not renewed by August, he should be sold. We've gone down this road before.

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Nah man, you're letting the results get to your head. As I said this team is full of problems. And Pioli has ended his cycle. Guys like Conte or Thago Motta would bring so much more to the table. It's time to part ways.

The more I think on Conte, the less I wan him here. Motta would be a very interesting choice, but I can see Juve going in for him quickly

And yes, the Pioli change of opinion is results based, but everything is like that in football. We've gone through some very difficult moments and he's managed to keep the players on his side. We've gone through some really tough times as of late and now we're through to the other side. The grass is not always greener and I worry about who we might appoint instead of him.
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